
Photo by Egan Snow via Flickr
After quickly championing the rights of vehicles and bicycles sharing the road in the aftermath of the Mandeville Canyon "road rage" incident, Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl has canceled this Monday's community town hall that he quickly put together last week (he even changed locations once to accommodate the expected large crowd comfortably).
"At the request of the residents and of the cyclists who use Mandeville Canyon Road, I have decided that a more focused, deliberative task force will achieve my goal of bringing the relevant people together to discuss ideas and proposals for everyone to share this narrow canyon roadway," Rosendahl said in an e-mail notice sent to residents.
The notice continues to say that "the tenor of media coverage and of blog posts would make a Monday public meeting counter-productive."
Alex Thompson, resident of Rosendahl's district and a monthly rider with Santa Monica Critical Mass, said he was surprised and disappointed in the cancellation. "I'm sure the meeting would have been uncomfortable, but that discomfort comes from a genuine conflict between motorists and cyclists. We won't get anywhere by ignoring that conflict when these two cyclists were hurt. The problem is deeper and broader than Mandeville Canyon, so we need to approach it as such."
The task force will be made up of representatives from the three Mandeville Canyon homeowners associations, the four cycling clubs that regularly train there, the Los Angeles Bicycle Advisory Committee, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, and his staff. It will be tasked to "develop proposals to address issues of safety, personal and public rights, and civic responsibility – among both cyclists and residents of Mandeville Canyon," the e-mail stated.
Rosendahl introduced a "Cyclists' Bill of Rights" motion on Friday that was endorsed by fellow councilmembers. He thinks the venue for such discussion is more appropriate at Transportation Committee and City Council meetings where it could lead to a citywide education campaign about cyclists rights and sharing the road.
The original Cyclists' Bill of Rights for Los Angeles was written by the Bicycle Writers' Collective. No member was invited to the task force. "The Citywide response to this Road Rage Incident has demonstrated that this is a Citywide problem that must be addressed with a Citywide Solution," said BWC member (and LAist Contributor), Stephen Box, who had just returned from a Neighborhood Council event downtown where he was promoting the Cyclists' Bill of Rights and lobbying the community leaders for support. "As authors and champions of the Cyclists' Bill of Rights, the BWC must be a part of the task force, but even more important, it is imperative that the public have a chance to participate."
Councilman Rosendahl's letter to Community
Sent 5:38 p.m., Saturday, July 12, 2008
In response to escalating tensions over a July 4 incident that sent two cyclists to the hospital, Councilmember Bill Rosendahl is replacing a public Town Hall meeting with a task force on how cyclists and residents can better and more safely share Mandeville Canyon Road."At the request of the residents and of the cyclists who use Mandeville Canyon Road, I have decided that a more focused, deliberative task force will achieve my goal of bringing the relevant people together to discuss ideas and proposals for everyone to share this narrow canyon roadway," Rosendahl said.
Over the past few days, officials with homeowner associations and the bicycling clubs that train on the winding, 5-mile stretch of road expressed concern that the tenor of media coverage and of blog posts would make a Monday public meeting counter-productive. Many said they worried the issue had become larger than the specific issues of Mandeville Canyon
"While I always prefer more public dialogue and welcome it even now," Rosendahl said, "I appreciate the views and concerns of the residents and cyclists most involved in this issue and most familiar with this road.'
The Town Hall meeting had been scheduled for 6:30 p.m. July 14 at the Felicia Mahood Multipurpose Center in West Los Angeles
Instead, Rosendahl said he would convene a task force of representatives of the three Mandeville Canyon homeowners associations, the four cycling clubs that regularly train there, the Los Angeles Bicycle Advisory Committee, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, and his staff. The group will develop proposals to address issues of safety, personal and public rights, and civic responsibility – among both cyclists and residents of Mandeville Canyon.
Rosendahl said he hoped the more global issues of road-sharing between cyclists and motorists throughout Los Angeles would get a more thorough airing in a more appropriate, citywide venue. He noted he and several colleagues last week introduced a motion endorsing the Cyclists' Bill of Rights.
"When the Transportation Committee and the City Council take up that issue, I think it will be an exceptional opportunity to begin a citywide education campaign about the rights of cyclists and the need for everyone to share the road. We're all stuck in gridlock in Los Angeles, and we need to voice our frustration at the lack of a sensible transit system, and not at each other.
Rosendahl said he also welcomes any feedback at councilmanrosendahl@lacity.org.




My question is this: if it was Mr. Rosendahl's intention to address the Mandeville Canyon issue specifically, why did he propose a public meeting in the first place? Did he not realize the scope of bicycle/car conflicts on our city streets?
While it was sure to be a contentious event, canceling this meeting is going to have repercussions. At the very least, it will give the impression that city policy decisions regarding bicycles get made by elite cadres and special-interest groups who are not interested in making the process transparent and accessible to the public.
Which is, in my experience, pretty accurate.
The bikes in the photo above are very nice. Are they owned by a list member?
Since Rosendahl cancelled the Monday meeting,so why not have the meeting outside Dr Thompson's house at [address redacted]. (thank you, propertyshark.com)This guy needs to go to jail and then move.
Hey poster #3. That kind of thing shuts down the comments section. It's also stalkerish...and creepy.
He's out of town anyway.
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As has been talked to death in numerous forums and comment threads, attempts to bring the conflict to his residence specifically would be irresponsible and could hurt the riders chances in the civil trial by adding sympathy to the Doctor. I'd love to show him a piece of my mind too, and this whole incident enrages me to no end, but I do not want to jeopardize things for the riders in the process. They need to win that civil trail to make up for the damages and extended period of suffering and unemployment this attack has caused them.
In the Meantime:
Storm the Bastille is on!
On Monday, July 14, we ride from REDquarters (Santa Monica & Vermont Red Line Station) @ 11 to the South Lawn of City Hall for a noon rally.
We've got a Bastillion ideas on ways to make this a GREAT City but we're gonna start with the Cyclists' Bill of Rights and we're gonna call on our City Leadership to join us in making this a GREAT City with GREAT Streets! (6500 miles of roadway, all of it ridable!)
See you on the Streets!
councilmanrosendahl@lacity.org
Councilman Rosendahl,
I am writing because I read that you have cancelled the Town Hall meeting that you had scheduled to address the Mandeville Canyon incident with the cyclists. I understand your reasoning that the meeting might not be as productive as a task force, and that might be true.
But I feel that by not addressing the public at large, you are missing a very teachable moment. An opportunity to make sure that everyone understands that all the roads belong to all the users, and that abuse of the driving privilege will not be ignored. The task force may be able to work out the issues that face Mandeville Canyon, and that's a valuable thing to do, but it addresses only the needs of the homeowners and cyclists in that area. It will not help the increasing number of new cyclists who must now commute to work by bike because they can no longer afford to drive. These folks may or may not know how to best handle their bike on the road, and drivers need to learn to share the road with the growing cycling population.
I understand that you have put the Cyclists Bill of Rights forward to the City Council. That's a great idea. Please find a way to put some teeth in it. Please find a way to involve the L. A. County Bike Coalition, as well as the Bicycle Writer's Collective, who authored the original Cyclists Bill of Rights. These groups know how to do outreach, and outreach and education is what it's going to take to make the streets safe for all of us.
Thank you for your efforts, and please keep up the good work,
Warren Bowman
Forget showing up at this guy's house. He's getting arraigned at the LAX courthouse on August 1; better to have every cyclist in the city ride there and take advantage of our right to assemble.
Your canyon - everyone's streets.
Great idea, Adam. What time is the arraignment?
A few suggestions to anyone going to the LAX court house;
No placards or signs, or you will not be admitted.
Remember that you will have to go through a metal detector, so don't carry anything in your back pack or on your person that could be preceived as a weapon.
If you want to appear as a group I would suggest showing up in riding attire, or wear some article of clothing, (t-shirt, etc), that will identify you as a bicycle advocate.
Don't be loud or disruptful. Remember, this is a court of law, be respectful or expect to get arrested.
I've been to the LAX courthouse for a trial with a group of med mj advocates. These are suggestions that were given to us by the defense atty. when he found out we would be there.
Great suggestions, however I disagree with wearing riding attire or something that identifies me as a cyclists.
I ride in heels and my everyday clothing. We are people first and foremost and cycists are also motorists at times. We should be safe on our streets regardless of what clothes we wear with our choice of transportation.
The bigger should always yield to the smaller and we should be safe on our streets regardless of creed, color, race, sexual orientation or mode of transportation.
"I disagree with wearing riding attire..."
If you want to appear a group.
In other words if you want to get around the no placards rule.
When we went as med mj advocates we knew we weren't going to be able to bring signs or placards, so we had t-shirts made up with a big marijuana leaf inside a red cross that said "DEMAND SAFE ACCESS". This was how showed ourselves as supporters with out getting kicked out for carrying signs.
Now that's a great idea then! Thanks for the tip! I can wear a t-shirt with a message and still wear my heels ;-)
Exactly!
A court of law is open to the public unless the judge specifies otherwise, and obviously they aren't going to tell you to remove your clothes.
Hahaha! Well, you never know :-) Everything is possible in LA.
"Everything is possible in LA."
L.A. hell, if this were taking place in Oklahoma, this judge might order it.
http://www.courttv.com/trials/thompson_donald/092305_background_ctv.html
Re-posted but still applies
It isn't Hatfields & McCoys. If its a feud, its more Blue & Grey than hillbillys. There is a innocence, or at least an ineffectual comedic quality associated to the hillbilly fable. I ain't laughing. This Family Feud is way beyond Richard Dawson & Al Roker.
Sure, there are plenty of other places cycl-ists could go other than any of the canyons
BUT WHY SHOULD WE. To say there are places some people "can" go & others can't is "Transpo" discrimination.
Would you stand for it for yourself?
Would you tolerate it in others?
And yes, this is a defining question.
Position defining.
Blue or Grey?
Or perhaps, better yet, Erin Brokovich or PG&E?