It was this month, four years ago that the Obama administration ordered the fatal Predator drone strike on 40-year-old, Colorado State University alum, jihadist and American citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki.

In his gripping dissection of the decision, which he calls “simultaneously morally required and morally forbidden,” New York Times National security reporter Scott Shane reminds Americans of the debate over whether to deliberately kill an American citizen without a trial or court order and the precedent that it set.

Guest:

Scott Shane, National security reporter for The New York Times and author of “Objective Troy: A Terrorist, a President, and the Rise of the Drone”