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Not long after the Palisades Fire broke out Jan. 7, firefighting aircraft began drawing bright red lines with fire retardant across the Santa Monica Mountains, in an effort to slow and contain the flames.

By the time the fire was out about three weeks later, the MD-87s, S-2Ts and mammoth DC-10s had performed more than 280 drops across 20 square miles, according to data from Cal Fire obtained via public records requests.

LAist partnered with researchers at USC to test samples of the fire retardant gathered from fire zones in the weeks after the Palisades, Eaton and Franklin fires where it remained on the ground.

Those tests found toxic heavy metals including lead, arsenic, cadmium and chromium, which can accumulate in the environment and pose risks to humans and wildlife, according to federal and state environmental agencies.

Fire authorities say retardant is a critical component of the firefighting arsenal.

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Tests USC conducted on LAist's behalf found the presence of heavy metals in unused retardant and in samples collected after the recent fires.

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A product called MVP-FX, a variant of Perimeter Solutions' Phos-Chek, was the primary aerial retardant dropped on the Eaton and Palisades fires, according to the company.

The presence of heavy metals in MVP-Fx has not been previously reported.

LAist shared the USC lab results with Perimeter Solutions. Jeff Emery, Perimeter’s president of global fire safety, said the company’s products, including Phos-Chek MVP-Fx, have passed extensive testing. He added that the amount of heavy metals found by LAist was far below limits set by the Environmental Protection Agency and “any concerning levels for human health and safety.”

The presence of heavy metals isn’t noted in safety documents publicly shared by Perimeter Solutions.

Aircraft often drop more retardant than water each year on fires in California. From 2006 to 2024, more than 194 million gallons of various types of fire retardant were dropped by aircraft, according to data from Cal Fire.

“We don’t check into every single thing that’s in there,” said Chris Jurasek, deputy chief of tactical operations at Cal Fire.

He said his agency relies on the U.S. Forest Service to test and verify the safety of the retardants it uses. The use of fire retardants is a “critical” component of the firefighting arsenal, according to both Cal Fire and the U.S. Forest Service.

Why we had to run our own tests

Late last year, LAist requested samples of MVP-Fx from Cal Fire, the U.S. Forest Service and Perimeter Solutions, which manufactures the product, for the purpose of running an independent analysis for heavy metals. All declined.

“It’s not in our interest to share product with public or private agencies,” Jurasek said at the time. “You are not the first person to ask for us to give them fire retardant. It happens. It’s not something we do.”

Fire retardant coats laurel sumac in the Santa Monica Mountains after the Palisades Fire.

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A bag of laurel sumac covered in Phos-Chek, gathered in the Santa Monica Mountains. It was later taken to USC for testing.

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So over the next few months we gathered our own samples from the field.

After the Franklin, Eaton and Palisades fires were under control, I hiked to remote sites and collected vegetation, trash and dirt that had been caked with fire retardant. The samples were placed into baggies and taken to the Environmental Chemistry Laboratory at USC, where the fire retardant was tested for heavy metals.

Marella Schammel, a Ph.D. student, scraped dried red flakes into tubes filled with a diluted mixture of nitric acid and ran them through an inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometer.

Flakes of Phos-Chek were scraped into tubes along with diluted nitric acid for testing.

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Arsenic, cadmium, chromium, copper, manganese, nickel, lead, antimony, thallium, vanadium and zinc were all found in the samples.

Emery told LAist that any trace heavy metals found in testing were “naturally occurring.”

Phos-Chek MVP-Fx is primarily made of ammonium phosphates, which are derived from phosphate. That rock, when mined, can contain trace amounts of heavy metals.

“There are no heavy metals added to any of our formulations,” Emery said.

Cal Fire, the U.S. Forest Service and Perimeter Solutions all dismissed the results of the testing — saying that the samples couldn’t be relied on because they were gathered in the field. That the potential for contamination by ash from burning structures and brush after the retardant was dropped from planes was too great.

Eventually, LAist obtained unused, unmixed MVP-Fx and verified the source and authenticity of the material.

What we found

Marella Schammel, a Ph.D. student at USC, prepares samples of Phos-Chek for testing.

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Samples of Phos-Chek loaded into an inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry machine for testing.

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Like the materials collected in fire zones, this unused sample was sent to the USC lab.

Schammel processed the MVP-Fx and found the same heavy metals present as the field samples we gathered.

There were some differences. However, it’s unclear if those differences are due to contamination on the ground or if there’s a variance in the amount of heavy metals present in different batches of the product.

“I’m not too surprised,” said Daniel McCurry, professor of civil and environmental engineering, who oversaw the testing process. Last year he and Schammel analyzed another Phos-Chek variant — LC95 — and found heavy metals as well.

LC95 is one of several USDA approved retardants in use today and one of the variants manufactured by Perimeter Solutions. Cal Fire doesn't use the LC95 variant.

Those results — from tests sparked in part by questions I’d asked McCurry in 2019 about whether we should be concerned about what was in fire retardants — made me want to know more about what is in the fire retardants in use now.

In an effort to compare USC’s test results to the official safety testing required by the federal government, LAist reached out to both Perimeter Solutions and the U.S. Forest Service, an agency within the USDA, for detailed test results for MVP-Fx. Neither would provide them.

In a statement, the U.S. Forest Service said that retardants that qualify for use have to show “nondetectable or trace levels” of certain heavy metals. However, the test results are proprietary information protected by nondisclosure agreements.

'Let people know what they're dealing with'

LAist’s review of publicly available documentation related to MVP-Fx, including its safety data sheet — which is required to warn those who may come in contact with the product of potential risks — found no reference to the presence of heavy metals.

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After reviewing LAist’s results and the company’s safety data sheet, Claudia Polsky, director of the Environmental Law Clinic at UC Berkeley School of Law, said the company is likely in violation of multiple California laws and regulations including Cal OSHA standards, unfair competition law and Proposition 65.

“The Cal OSHA hazard communication standards require that a safety data sheet identify every hazardous ingredient in the product,” Polsky said. “Companies often resist disclosure requirements.

“To me this situation is disturbing if unsurprising.”

When asked about the safety data sheet, Emery said that the company works to “ensure compliance with all applicable regulatory requirements concerning our product.”

A firefighter stands amid vegetation covered in retardant in the hills of Mandeville Canyon in January.

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Some who regularly work with Phos-Chek said that LAist’s findings were a surprise to them.

“ The heavy metal thing, I can tell you, was news to me,” said Joel Lane, air tactical group supervisor with the Orange County Fire Authority. He’s worked in the industry for decades and has come in contact with different variants of Phos-Chek, both during preparation and when it’s been dropped on him by aircraft.

Lane said that he’s never been told or read in official documentation that heavy metals could potentially be present in retardant, which he finds upsetting.

He said the lack of transparency is concerning, but that it wouldn’t be the first time.

Lane feels firefighters were left in the dark about the risk of PFAS — long-lasting chemicals used in firefighting foam and in the heavy gear firefighters wear — that have been tied to elevated rates of cancer, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Lane himself recently survived prostate cancer.

“ Be transparent, be open. Let people know what they're dealing with,” Lane said. It’s only then that they can make informed decisions about risks for themselves, he added.

LAist asked the U.S. Forest Service about potential risks to firefighters, to which they responded that “risk assessments of firefighter exposure to retardants do not indicate an increased risk for health effects,” pointing to a health assessment conducted by the agency, which includes MVP-Fx.

Although the assessment says risks are expected to be generally negligible, it doesn't explicitly mention heavy metal exposure. The U.S. Forest Service didn’t respond to whether heavy metal contamination was taken into consideration for the assessment.

What’s the risk to you?

Heavy metals can pose a serious health risk and have been tied to increased rates of cancer, as well as reproductive and developmental issues in humans.

That said, multiple health experts told LAist that the risk to members of the public exposed to the retardant when doing activities like hiking, is likely low, given the concentration of contaminants present in our samples.

“It should not be a reason for panic, but maybe it's a reason for caution,” said Dr. Ana Navas-Acien, professor and chair of Environmental Health Sciences at the Mailman School of Public Health at Columbia University, who reviewed the results.

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Fire retardant covers a pool and lounge chairs dropped from a firefighting aircraft.

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Sanjay Mohanty, associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at UCLA, agreed, saying that the risk for people with limited exposure, such as homeowners or hikers, is “very low.”

If you or your pets are exposed, it’s a good idea to wash it off.

Environmental effects

Retardant is a particular concern if it gets into aquatic ecosystems.

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Fire retardants can be particularly dangerous to aquatic ecosystems, according to a U.S. Forest Service environmental impact study published in 2011.

Once retardant enters waterways it can lead to elevated ammonia levels, which in turn can be toxic to salmon and trout. And there’s a possibility that an influx of nutrients from retardant can boost algal growth and create dead zones, killing off organisms there.

Because of these risks, the U.S. Forest Service prohibits the dropping of retardant within 300 feet of waterways, though it does happen. There have been more than 240 intrusions since 2012, according to another U.S. Forest Service environmental impact study from 2023.

However, even if the retardant doesn’t get dropped directly on waterways, it can get washed into them by rain. Heavy metals can settle in streams and ponds and potentially have devastating impacts on organisms there.

William Clements, a professor in the Department of Fish and Wildlife Conservation at Colorado State University, homed in on the cadmium LAist found in the MVP-Fx.

“ If even a small fraction of that ends up in that stream, that is cause for concern,” he said.

If you or your pets are exposed to fire retardant, it's a good idea to wash it off.

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The heavy metal can get taken up by sponge-like algae, which is then eaten by aquatic insects such as mayflies and stoneflies, which can die when exposed to the cadmium. Exposure to the heavy metal can also inhibit their reproduction, growth and ability to emerge from streams, compromising a source of food for fish and birds, according to Clements.

“ The levels of metals will increase and will be bioconcentrated over time. Not now, but in a year, two years, maybe five years from now,” said Dmitri Deheyn, a marine toxicologist at the  Scripps Institution of Oceanography.

“ People need to make the association that the impact is a lingering impact that will be diffused and diluted over time and space.”

In an effort to figure out how much heavy metal was spread throughout the San Gabriel and Santa Monica mountains during the Eaton and Palisades fires, LAist requested information on the total number of gallons of retardant dropped, from both the U.S. Forest Service and Cal Fire, via records requests. None were fulfilled.

If you’re in the firefighting world and have any samples of Phos-Chek or another type of fire retardant you’d like to share, please reach out.

ICE has released Cambodian Genocide survivor Sithy Yi from immigration detention following an order by a federal judge.

Yi, who fled the genocide and came to the U.S. with her family in 1981, was detained by ICE at a routine immigration check-in in Santa Ana on Jan. 8 and held at the Adelanto Detention Facility for almost two months.

In response to a lawsuit arguing that she was being held unconstitutionally, U.S. District Judge Cynthia Valenzuela issued an order Friday requiring ICE to “immediately release” Yi. The order also prevents the agency from deporting Yi without providing an opportunity to be heard by a neutral arbiter and bans ICE from transferring her outside the court’s jurisdiction.

The ruling says the government did not oppose Yi’s request for the court to order her released. Her attorney had alleged ICE failed to follow procedural requirements such as showing she violated any conditions of her release or proving that she would likely be deported in the “reasonably foreseeable future.”

Reunited with her family

Yi was released Monday and has returned to her family, according to her attorney. Yi’s family includes her mother and two sisters she helped to survive starvation and mass killings at the hands of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia before they came to the U.S. as refugees.

Retaliation allegations against detention center staff

Yi’s attorney says that in addition to the court’s findings, she believes her client’s Eighth Amendment right against cruel and unusual punishment was violated while detained at Adelanto.

“ She was retaliated against by security and medical personnel because she had been communicating with her family, and through her family with me. And we've been reporting about these conditions to Sen. [Adam] Schiff, as well as other members of Congress. And somehow word got back and she was retaliated against,” her attorney Kim Luu-Ng told LAist’s AirTalk on Tuesday.

“She was verbally abused, but she was also punished. She was not allowed to use the bathroom. She was not allowed to shower,” Luu-Ng continued.

“It is absolutely freezing in the detention center, but they don't care. She said to me that she has to wrap herself in blankets, but they're still freezing.”

Yi and other detainees were regularly getting sick from spoiled food served at the facility.

“These are civil detainees. These are not criminal detainees. And there are laws in this country that are supposed to protect against this type of punitive and cruel treatment of detainees,” Luu-Ng added.

She said that in many ways, she feels “criminal detainees have even more rights than civil detainees. And so this is a real crisis.”

ICE has not responded to a request for comment.

Why Yi was released

Luu-Ng has represented Yi since her immigration case began in 2013. Yi was first brought to immigration court after a drug conviction her family says stemmed from untreated mental health issues from being tortured as a child and prolonged exposure to abuse into adulthood.

Her immigration case ended in 2016, with a judge ruling to withhold an order of removal due to concerns she would be tortured if she were deported to Cambodia.

Yi also applied for a U visa — a type of visa providing temporary immigration status to crime victims who have cooperated with law enforcement — in 2022. That visa application is still pending.

Judge Valenzuela explained her reasoning for the order, writing in the document that ICE did not oppose a motion by Yi’s lawyer requesting she be released. Luu-Ng claimed in the motion that ICE detained her client without following required steps, such as showing she violated any conditions of her release or proving that she would likely be deported in the “reasonably foreseeable future.”

Valenzuela also pointed to another case against ICE where she granted an order for Ramy Hakim to be released based on similar circumstances Jan. 22. Hakim was detained at a regular immigration check-in Dec. 19 despite receiving protections in 2004 against being deported to Egypt where he would likely be tortured. He was held at the same Adelanto facility as Yi.

ICE has not responded to LAist’s request for comment on Friday’s court order. In an emailed statement on Jan. 29, a spokesperson for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said Yi was ordered to be removed from the country in 2016 following a drug conviction and had “received full due process.”

Yi’s attorney says ICE kept her detained through the weekend despite the judge ordering her to be released immediately.

 ”ICE doesn't work on the weekends,” Luu-Ng said. “Any minute that my client was detained beyond the time that the order was issued was an unconstitutional detention.”

ICE spokespeople have not responded to a request for comment about this allegation.

Reza Arzanian has only been able to get in touch with his parents in Iran once since the U.S. and Israel began bombing the country over the weekend. Communication into the country is nearly impossible — he has to rely on them contacting him.

The Los Angeles resident isn’t yet sure how to think about the evolving attack on the country of 90 million people, where he lived until he was 25. Even when news came Saturday that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed, Arzanian was unmoved.

“ I wasn't happy or I wasn't sad,” he said. “All I could think of was the last time I spoke with my mom and her voice was shaking and she was telling me her jaw was shaking because she was so scared.”

This is the reality for so many Southern Californians with ties to the Middle East. In the last few years, there has been a relentless barrage of news about tragedy and bloodshed: Iran’s Zan, Zendegi, Azadi movement in 2022; Hamas’ attack on Israel in October 2023 that killed about 1,200 people and Israel’s subsequent military assault on Gaza that killed more than 70,000 people; the fall of Bashar Al Assad’s regime in Syria; recent protests in Iran over economic conditions that the regime violently put down; and other headlines from Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

The unrelenting stories of destruction and tragedy from the region — which are inescapable on the news, social media and in group text message threads — are taking a toll.

Marwa Azab, a mental health expert and a professor at Cal State Long Beach, said people can go from a state of “hyperarousal” — or increased anxiety — in their nervous systems to “being disconnected from the body, feeling emotional numbness.”

 ”The misinformation, inciting and inflaming media has made our identity fragments fight each other, like parts of us are fighting each other, really making it very difficult, if not impossible, at this present moment to feel whole,” she said.  ”This numbness, this detachment from the body where the mind and body becomes separate, makes us further removed from who we are, from our identity, and gives us a sense of being fragmented.”

Arzanian, who is Iranian American, can relate.

“ It feels hard to exist in my body,” he said Monday. “Like yesterday, I didn't know what to do with myself. I cannot distract myself.”

Rachel Sumekh, an Iranian Jewish economic justice activist, told LAist she feels as though she is holding her breath, struggling to exhale.

“We have no idea what will happen. We pray that what happens next will be something that's good, will be something that brings freedom to the people of Iran,” she said.

And as a U.S. citizen with Iranian roots who is Jewish and has ties to Israel, Sumekh called the current moment “nuts.”

But her identity has also been politicized since she could remember.

“ I have avoided telling people I'm Jewish at times since Oct. 7, simply because I feel like then I need to qualify that I believe in human rights and whatever my international positions are,” she said.

But she added that this multifaceted identity has also helped her cope and navigate life in America, “designing and developing life here in America in a way that feels future-oriented as opposed to saddled with what the heaviness of those identities comes with.”

Sumekh has never set foot in Iran. Her father left before the Iranian Revolution, and her mother escaped a few years after the Revolution on the back of a camel. Israel was where her family escaped to as refugees when they left Iran. And her identity shows up in how she interacts with people and moves through life. Her activism, including organizing around ending campus hunger, she said, is rooted in Persian principles of hospitality, warmth and openness.

One way she copes with the heaviness of it all, she said, is deleting social media.

Arzanian said he has been avoiding social media, too. Instead, he relies on a Telegram channel for news updates. To get away from the news, he tries to stay active, do breath work and write in his journal.

“I  try to write before doing anything, and usually my writing is a mixture of how I'm feeling and prayers,” he said.

Shared reality 

Sandy Hamideh knows how Sumekh and Arzanian are feeling.

The last few years have left the Palestinian American who lives in Rowland Heights “overwhelmed.”

Her young children remind her of the children dying in Gaza, and as she prepares their food and helps them with homework, she’s reminded of the people back home.

“ I'm just stuck in this cycle, the same just recurring cycle,” Hamideh said. “We think it's going to get better, and here we are two and a half years later and still, stuck and confused and scared.”

Israel’s war on Gaza has changed her, she said. She's become a more grateful person, not overlooking the little luxuries. And, she said, she has been heartened by the outpouring of support she's seen for Palestinians. Before, Hamideh said, she would quickly brush past the fact that she was Palestinian.

“ Now, I'm more proud about it because people are out there like learning and loving your culture, so that's really nice,” she said.

But there is also a sadness that permeates everything she does, Hamideh said.

 ”The things I would get excited for before, now I look at it differently,” she said. “People across the world don't have these resources or have these moments of good times or these chances to go out and explore and just the freedom.”

Sumekh also identified with recent victims of violence. She said the news of Iranian protesters being killed earlier in the year as they called for regime change affected her more than the recent strikes.

“ Those were Iranians who could have been me there fighting for freedom,” Sumekh said. “What's happening now is just a bunch of strong men, politicians bombing each other.”

Survivor’s guilt 

Marwa Azab, a psychology professor at Cal State Long Beach.

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Cal State Long Beach’s Azab calls this survivor’s guilt “a beautiful thing.”

 ”It means that we are still human … that we have morality,” she said.

She cautioned that people should not let that fester into feeling responsible for the destruction and tragedy.

Instead, Azab advised, people should turn any guilt they feel into values. Remind yourself that feelings of guilt mean you value human life and relationships.

For people with ties to the Middle East, the images can be retraumatizing, she said. The danger that some people fled has not ended, so they keep reliving that trauma over and over again.

And, Azab said, the images of destruction can be more triggering for people with ties to the region because they share aspects of their identity.

How to prioritize conversation 

Andrea Hodos, associate director of NewGround: A Muslim-Jewish Partnership for Change, understands why people feel overwhelmed.

“ I'm worried about Israeli Jews, Palestinian citizens of Israel. I'm worried about Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. I'm worried about people in Saudi Arabia. I'm worried about people in UAE and Lebanon and all of these places. Jordan was hit because there are U.S. bases there and there are so many civilians who are impacted by Iranian leadership,” she said.

Her advice to people is to have deep conversations — and to do more listening than talking.

Even if you go into a conversation really wanting to share your perspective, she said, first be prepared to listen. You may find openings in someone else’s perspective and the other side will be open to hearing your side.

On Tuesday opening statements will begin for the federal antitrust trial against Live Nation, one of the largest entertainment companies in the world. In a New York City courtroom, prosecutors are expected to argue that Live Nation and its subsidiary, Ticketmaster, have engaged in anticompetitive practices that profoundly harm musicians, venues and ticket buyers.

The trial is the result of a lawsuit originally filed by the Justice Department in 2024, though calls for reforms to the ticketing industry have been building for much longer. Back in 2022, chaotic sales for Taylor Swift's blockbuster Eras Tour — which included high pricing, long queues and a crashing platform — resulted in outcry from the singer and legal action from coalitions of Swifties. That event led to scrutiny from government officials, laying the groundwork for this week's events. In recent years, artists including The Cure and Olivia Dean have also criticized Live Nation and Ticketmaster for its pricing models and fought for fans to receive partial refunds.

Despite Live Nation's repeated attempts to get the government's lawsuit dismissed, U.S. District Judge Arun Subramanian ultimately ruled to move forward with a trial. In response to questions from NPR, Live Nation stated that a majority of ticket prices in the U.S. are under $100 and referred to a breakdown of the Justice Department's claims written by Dan Wall, executive vice president of corporate and regulatory affairs at Live Nation.

Who's involved?

The federal government and 39 states, plus the District of Columbia, are suing Live Nation and its subsidiary, Ticketmaster.

Since its foundation under a different name in 1996, Live Nation has promoted live events and managed venues. Over the years, it acquired additional companies in the live entertainment space and became the top concert promoter in the U.S. Ticketmaster, which was founded by two Arizona State University staffers in 1976, started out selling hardware for ticketing systems and expanded into the leading ticket selling company in the country. (In 1994, Pearl Jam famously boycotted Ticketmaster, alleging the company's control over ticketing was driving up service charges, which prompted a Justice Department investigation that was later dropped).

In 2009, Ticketmaster and Live Nation announced plans to merge, sparking backlash from artists like Bruce Springsteen and lawmakers including Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer. The following year, the Justice Department approved the consolidation of the two companies under a number of conditions meant to ensure it would not monopolize the live music industry. Now, the Justice Department claims Live Nation has not held up its end of the bargain.

What is Live Nation being accused of?

The government alleges that Live Nation and Ticketmaster are unfairly wielding their power over concert promotion, artist management, venue operations and ticketing services to shut out competitors. According to the amended lawsuit, Live Nation manages more than 400 artists and owns or controls more than 265 venues in North America, while Ticketmaster controls around 80% of ticketing in the primary marketplace, plus a growing share of the resale market.

"The government and a bunch of state governments looked at what was happening and said, 'We think this company has too much control over too many different areas of the industry and it's using its different parts of the music business as weapons,'" says John Newman, a law professor at the University of Memphis who focuses on antitrust law. "When it's facing venues, it's using its control over promotion and ticketing as a weapon. Then, when it's turning around and dealing with artists, it's using its control over event venues as a weapon. There's just too much control over too many different areas."

The government alleges that artists are pressured to use Live Nation and Ticketmaster's promotion services in order to perform at its venues, especially major amphitheaters; on the other hand, venues are allegedly cornered into signing long term, exclusive contracts with Live Nation and Ticketmaster in order to gain a number of benefits, including being able to host lucrative shows. Ultimately, the government claims that both artists and venues lose the ability to make independent choices or work with competing promotion and ticketing companies without facing major financial risks or retaliation from Live Nation.

"These business practices can, and often do, work against the interests of those with relatively little power and influence, especially working musicians and fans," reads the lawsuit.

In a statement provided to NPR, Live Nation denied the government's claims.

"There is more competition than ever in the live events market — which is why Ticketmaster's market share has declined since 2010," reads the statement. "The outcome of this trial will do nothing to lower ticket prices for fans or address the industry issues they care about most."

It's hard to predict how federal prosecutors and Live Nation's defense attorneys will make their case in the courtroom or how it will be received by a jury of New Yorkers, but Newman says one thing's for sure: the government will likely have to acknowledge its own role in allowing the merger to occur in the first place.

"The government is put in the awkward position of saying, 'We made a mistake. We should have acted more forcefully back then, but we didn't,'" says Newman.

Now, it's up to a jury and judge to decide how to alter Live Nation's business model moving forward, if at all. If found guilty of violating antitrust laws, Ticketmaster and Live Nation could be broken up. "If that happens, it would radically reshape the live music industry in the U.S.," Newman says.

What could this mean for fans?

In February, Judge Subramanian dismissed several monopoly claims, including the government's argument that Live Nation's control over the industry is unfairly driving up ticket prices and causing significant harm to consumers. Judge Subramanian ruled that the government had not provided enough evidence to prove that current prices are above competitive rates. But even without a designated focus on how fans are impacted by the company's business practices, if Live Nation and Ticketmaster are forced to separate, ticket buyers will likely feel the difference.

"If you separate the two, it's going to increase competition," says Dustin Brighton, a spokesperson for the Coalition for Ticket Fairness, which advocates for increased transparency and consumer protections in the live events space. "Consumers will always benefit from a marketplace where there's a lot of competition and where they have more opportunity to get what they want."

Brian Berry is executive director of Ticket Policy Forum, an association of ticket sellers and resellers in the U.S. advocating for more competition across the industry. He says a wider array of choices not only has the potential to lower prices and fees, but also to improve the ways fans currently obtain tickets.

"If you've ever used the Ticketmaster app, you realize it was probably launched when the VCR and fax machine were coming on to the market," he says. "[There's] not a whole lot of innovation there. It's a terrible experience. It's broken. There are better platforms."

Are there other pending legal cases against Live Nation?

The antitrust trial is part of a larger web of legal actions taken against Live Nation in recent years.

In 2024, sales for the Oasis reunion tour in the U.K. — and particularly Ticketmaster's use of "dynamic pricing" — sparked an investigation by a U.K. government watchdog agency into whether the company breached consumer protection law. Ultimately, the agency found that Ticketmaster "may have misled Oasis fans." As a result, the company agreed to be more transparent about pricing tiers moving forward.

In September, the Federal Trade Commission filed a lawsuit against Ticketmaster and its parent company, Live Nation, alleging that the company willingly misleads consumers about ticket prices and cooperates with scalpers to markup resale prices — all at the expense of artists and music fans. 

There are still ongoing class-action and fan-led lawsuits against Live Nation and Ticketmaster, too, but the federal antitrust trial is the biggest legal action against the company so far, and has the most potential to change the status quo in the live entertainment industry.
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