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  • Classified network of them emit mysterious signal

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    A constellation of classified defense satellites built by the commercial company SpaceX is emitting a mysterious signal that may violate international standards, NPR has learned.

    More details: Satellites associated with the Starshield satellite network appear to be transmitting to the Earth's surface on frequencies normally used for doing the exact opposite: sending commands from Earth to satellites in space. The use of those frequencies to "downlink" data runs counter to standards set by the International Telecommunication Union, a United Nations agency that seeks to coordinate the use of radio spectrum globally.

    Why it matters: Starshield's unusual transmissions have the potential to interfere with other scientific and commercial satellites, warns Scott Tilley , an amateur satellite tracker in Canada who first spotted the signals .

    Read on... how the discovery of the signal happened.

    A constellation of classified defense satellites built by the commercial company SpaceX is emitting a mysterious signal that may violate international standards, NPR has learned.

    Satellites associated with the Starshield satellite network appear to be transmitting to the Earth's surface on frequencies normally used for doing the exact opposite: sending commands from Earth to satellites in space. The use of those frequencies to "downlink" data runs counter to standards set by the International Telecommunication Union, a United Nations agency that seeks to coordinate the use of radio spectrum globally.

    Starshield's unusual transmissions have the potential to interfere with other scientific and commercial satellites, warns Scott Tilley , an amateur satellite tracker in Canada who first spotted the signals .

    "Nearby satellites could receive radio-frequency interference and could perhaps not respond properly to commands — or ignore commands — from Earth," he told NPR.

    Outside experts agree there's the potential for radio interference. "I think it is definitely happening," said Kevin Gifford, a computer science professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder who specializes in radio interference from spacecraft. But he said the issue of whether the interference is truly disruptive remains unresolved.


    SpaceX and the U.S. National Reconnaissance Office, which operates the satellites for the government, did not respond to NPR's request for comment.

    Caught by the wrong antenna

    The discovery of the signal happened purely by chance.

    Tilley regularly monitors satellites from his home in British Columbia as a hobby. He was working on another project when he accidentally triggered a scan of radio frequencies that are normally quiet.

    "It was just a clumsy move at the keyboard," he said. "I was resetting some stuff and then all of a sudden I'm looking at the wrong antenna, the wrong band."

    The band of the radio spectrum he found himself looking at, between 2025-2110 MHz, is reserved for "uplinking" data to orbiting satellites. That means there shouldn't be any signals coming from space in that range.

    But Tilley's experienced eye noticed there appeared to be a signal coming down from the sky. It was in a part of the band "that should have nothing there," he said. "I got a hold of my mouse and hit the record button and let it record for a few minutes."

    Tilley then took the data and compared it to a catalog of observations made by other amateur satellite trackers. These amateurs, located around the world, use telescopes to track satellites as they move across the sky and then share their positions in a database.

    "Bang, up came an unusual identification that I wasn't expecting at all," he said. "Starshield."

    Starshield is a classified version of SpaceX's Starlink satellites, which provide internet service around the world. The U.S. has reportedly paid more than $1.8 billion so far for the network, though little is known about it. According to SpaceX , Starshield conducts both Earth observation and communications missions.

    Since May of 2024, the National Reconnaissance Office has conducted 11 launches of Starshield satellites in what it describes as its "proliferated system."

    A logo of a shooting star in a circle with text around it that reads "Proliferated architecture. Strength in numbers" and "NRO" inside the circle.
    So far, the National Reconnaissance Office says it has launched more than 200 satellites as part of its "proliferated architecture" system to facilitate military Earth observations and communications missions.
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    "The NRO's proliferated system will increase timeliness of access, diversify communications pathways, and enhance resilience," the agency says of the system. "With hundreds of small satellites on orbit, data will be delivered in minutes or even seconds."

    Tilley says he's detected signals from 170 of the Starshield satellites so far. All appear in the 2025-2110 MHz range, though the precise frequencies of the signals move around.

    Signal's purpose in question

    It's unclear what the satellite constellation is up to. Starlink, SpaceX's public satellite internet network, operates at much higher frequencies to enable the transmission of broadband data. Starshield, by contrast, is using a much lower frequency range that probably only allows for the transmission of data at rates closer to 3G cellular, Tilley says.

    Tilley says he believes the decision to downlink in a band typically reserved for uplinking data could also be designed to hide Starshield's operations. The frequent shift in specific frequencies used could prevent outsiders from finding the signal.

    Gifford says another possibility is that SpaceX was just taking advantage of a quiet part of the radio spectrum. Uplink transmissions from Earth to satellites are usually rare and brief, so these frequencies probably remain dark most of the time.

    "SpaceX is smart and savvy," he says. It's possible they decided to just "do it and ask forgiveness later."

    He notes it's unlikely the signals from Starshield have caused significant disruptions so far, otherwise other satellite operators would have complained.

    Tilley told NPR he has decided to go public with his discovery because the world's satellite operators should be aware of what's happening.

    "These are objects in classified orbits, which could potentially disturb other legitimate uses of space," he said.
    Copyright 2025 NPR

  • So, what's next?
    An exterior view of the U.S. Capitol on Sept. 9, in Washington, D.C.
    An exterior view of the U.S. Capitol on Sept. 9 in Washington, D.C.

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    The government is back open. It was the longest shutdown in U.S. history at 43 days . There remain lots of questions about what this means, how we got here and where we go from here.

    What are some of those questions? What happens with the health care subsidies that largely were at the center of the shutdown? What happens to federal workers and their paychecks? What happens if there's another shutdown? How likely is another shutdown in the short term?

    Read on ... for the answers to these and other questions that arose from the shutdown.

    The government is back open.

    It was the longest shutdown in U.S. history at 43 days .

    There are lots of questions about what this means, how we got here and where we go from here. Let's answer some:

    Why did it start?

    The Democratic base has been urging its leaders to show more fight. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer caught tremendous blowback in March for doing an about-face and going along with Republicans to keep the government open despite what the left saw as an odious spending bill.

    When the latest funding fight came up, Schumer this time showed a united front with House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. Arm in arm, they refused to go along with continuing to fund the government and made the key issue extending health care subsidies, which if not extended, would mean tens of millions of Americans would see their health care costs increased.

    How did it end?

    It ended without the health care extensions Democrats were fighting for. Eight moderate senators crossed the aisle and indicated Sunday night that they had struck a deal with Senate Republicans to reopen the government.

    The reason they didn't hold out longer, this group said, was because it was obvious President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans weren't going to negotiate, and too many people were suffering. The Trump administration — correctly — gambled that enough Democrats would not be able to stomach the amount of pain the administration was willing to inflict on the 42 million recipients of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, and more than 3 million federal workers.

    So what does the bill do?

    The bill passed by Congress and signed by Trump funds the government until Jan. 30 with carveouts for SNAP, benefits targeted at women, infants and children, or WIC, the Department of Veterans Affairs and Congress. Those will all be funded until the end of September 2026.

    It notably also tries to rectify the firings and loss of pay to federal workers, although it's a leverage point the Trump administration could use again if the government were to shut down again after Jan. 30.

    There is also money for increased security for members of Congress, executive branch officials, judges and Supreme Court justices. Several Republican members were outspoken about this after the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

    If the government is only funded until Jan. 30, does that mean there could be another shutdown soon?

    It's possible. It depends on a few things. What lessons do Democrats take out of the shutdown? Does the fire within the base subside some between now and then? And is there an actual vote on health care subsidies?

    OK, so what about those health care subsidies?

    It's not clear yet, but the lack of a negotiation on them likely means they will expire unless enough moderate Republicans, feeling pressure in their districts, cross over to strike a deal with Democrats — and Republican leadership, including and especially Trump, go along with it.

    But that seems highly improbable — and tens of millions of people would see their premiums go up.

    If that's the case, what was the point of the shutdown?

    That's a question a lot of people, especially those left of center, are asking. They see what moderate Democrats did as caving to Republicans.

    The reality is, though, the eight moderate senators, who caucus with Democrats and took this deal, didn't want to see regular people feel more unnecessary pain — and they saw no hope for Republicans to compromise after what became the longest government shutdown in U.S. history.

    Democrats did accomplish something in this shutdown, though. They elevated the issue of health care, and if Republicans block the extension of subsidies, then they will likely own increased health care costs in voters' minds.

    What does this mean for federal workers and flight delays?

    Government workers will get back to work, and recent mass layoffs are to be reversed. Furloughed workers were missing paychecks.

    As far as airports, there are already signs of easing, but it will likely be several days or more until everything will get back to normal. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy noted that more air traffic controllers are heading back to work, but in the very short term, flight reductions at some major airports will continue.

    Were there any surprises?

    Yes, there were a few. First, there's drama around a provision slipped in the bill that would allow senators to sue the Justice Department for $500,000 each, if they were subject to subpoenas or had their phone records accessed as a result of DOJ's Jan. 6 investigation.

    House Republicans pledged to pass a resolution repealing that provision, but there's no guarantee of that or that the Senate will go along.

    There was also a clash about hemp regulation between two Republican senators from the same state. The disagreement between Kentucky Sens. Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul got pretty heated .

    The bill also shines a light on how hundreds of local projects are funded — from the purchasing of equipment for a college in the Virgin Islands, the establishing of a veterinary doctorate program in Maryland, urban forest conservation in Texas and asbestos abatement in Alaska to funding for local hospitals, rural community facilities, youth centers, fire stations and so, so much more. It's earmarks — funding not voted on or allocated through the formal appropriations process but tacked on in spending bills — that pay for all of these things.

    One day, there will be a vet that will say he or she got a degree from the University of Maryland, Eastern Shore — and it'll all be because of the funding deal to reopen the government.

    Is there a guarantee on a health care vote?

    No. The moderate Senate Democrats, who crossed over to open the government, thought so, but House Speaker Mike Johnson said shortly after the deal was reached that he wouldn't commit to a vote.

    Whether the vote happens or not, if health care subsidies are not extended, it will be because of Republicans — and that will mean they will own higher health care costs heading into an election year.

    What does this mean for the Epstein files?

    The end of the shutdown meant the swearing in of Adelita Grijalva, a Democrat, who won a special election in Arizona replacing her late father.

    That's key because she signed onto a discharge petition trying to compel the Justice Department to release the files associated with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and her support gave a majority to those who want to see them released. Johnson, who is close to Trump, has argued compelling the release is not necessary — though the president has made clear he does not want them released in full and his Justice Department has not taken public steps to do so.

    Even if it passes, though, it will largely likely be symbolic. The Senate is unlikely to get the required 60 votes. Trump would, of course, like it to fail in the House. Colorado Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert, one of three Republicans who have also signed the discharge petition, met in the White House Situation Room, apparently about Epstein. Boebert did not remove her name even after the meeting.

    The day the shutdown ended, more investigative materials were released from the House Oversight Committee, including a leak from committee Democrats pointing specifically to emails from Epstein's estate, showing Epstein implying that Trump knew about the girls.

    Any day Trump is talking about Epstein is not a good day for the White House.

    Who winds up with the political advantage out of the shutdown?

    Democrats really upset their base — again. Progressives continue to feel like they get rolled by party leaders. At the end of the day, though, Democrats are likely the ones who got the most out of the shutdown and will have the advantage in the midterm elections .

    Consider that Democrats are coming off huge wins across the country earlier this month in the off-year elections. The central issue in those elections was affordability. And through the shutdown, they elevated the issue of health care.

    The party and its candidates will likely be able to campaign on both of those issues next year, and with Republicans in charge, that will help Democrats — if they can mend fences with their base, that is.

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  • Trump scraps tariffs on wide range of goods
    President Trump speaks with reporters before boarding Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House, Tuesday.
    President Trump speaks with reporters before boarding Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House.

    Topline:

    President Donald Trump announced Friday that he was scrapping U.S. tariffs on beef, coffee, tropical fruits and a broad swath of other commodities — a dramatic move that comes amid mounting pressure on his administration to better combat high consumer prices.

    What the president is saying: The Trump administration has insisted that its tariffs had helped fill government coffers and weren't a major factor in higher prices at grocery stores around the country.

    What others are saying: Democrats were quick to paint Friday's move as an acknowledgement that Trump's policies were hurting American pocketbooks.

    Read on ... for more on what this latest move means for U.S. consumers.

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump announced Friday that he was scrapping U.S. tariffs on beef, coffee, tropical fruits and a broad swath of other commodities — a dramatic move that comes amid mounting pressure on his administration to better combat high consumer prices.

    Trump has built his second term around imposing steep levies on goods imported into the U.S. in hopes of encouraging domestic production and lifting the U.S. economy. His abrupt retreat from his signature tariff policy on so many staples key to the American diet is significant, and it comes after voters in off-year elections this month cited economic concerns as their top issue, resulting in big wins for Democrats in Virginia, New Jersey and other key races around the country.

    "We just did a little bit of a rollback on some foods like coffee," Trump said aboard Air Force One as he flew to Florida hours after the tariff announcement was made.

    Pressed on his tariffs helping to increase consumer prices, Trump acknowledged, "I say they may, in some cases," have that effect.

    "But to a large extent, they've been borne by other countries," the president added.

    Meanwhile, inflation — despite Trump's pronouncements that it has vanished since he took office in January — remains elevated, further increasing pressure on U.S. consumers.

    The Trump administration has insisted that its tariffs had helped fill government coffers and weren't a major factor in higher prices at grocery stores around the country. But Democrats were quick to paint Friday's move as an acknowledgement that Trump's policies were hurting American pocketbooks.

    "President Trump is finally admitting what we always knew: His tariffs are raising prices for the American people," Virginia Democratic Rep. Don Beyer said in a statement. "After getting drubbed in recent elections because of voters' fury that Trump has broken his promises to fix inflation, the White House is trying to cast this tariff retreat as a 'pivot to affordability.'"

    Grocery bill worries

    Trump slapped tariffs on most countries around the globe in April. He and his administration still say tariffs don't increase consumer prices, despite economic evidence to the contrary.

    Record-high beef prices have been a particular concern, and Trump had said he intended to take action to try to lower them. Trump's tariffs on Brazil, a major beef exporter, had been a factor.

    Trump signed an executive order that also removes tariffs on tea, fruit juice, cocoa, spices, bananas, oranges, tomatoes and certain fertilizers. Some of the products covered aren't produced in the United States, meaning that tariffs meant to spur domestic production had little effect. But reducing the tariffs still likely will mean lower prices for U.S. consumers.

    The Food Industry Association, which represents retailers, producers and a variety of related industry firms and services, applauded Trump's move to provide "swift tariff relief," noting that import U.S. taxes "are an important factor" in a "complex mix" of supply chain issues.

    "President Trump's proclamation to reduce tariffs on a substantial volume of food imports is a critical step ensuring continued adequate supply at prices consumers can afford," the association said in a statement.

    In explaining the tariff reductions, the White House said Friday that some of the original levies Trump relished imposing on nearly every country on earth months ago were actually no longer necessary given the trade agreements he'd since hammered out with key U.S. trading partners.

    Indeed, Friday's announcement follows the Trump administration having reached framework agreements with Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador and Argentina meant to increase the ability of U.S. firms to sell industrial and agricultural products in these countries, while also potentially easing tariffs on agricultural products produced there.

    During an interview that aired earlier in the week with Laura Ingraham of Fox News Channel, Trump hinted that lower tariffs might be coming.

    "Coffee, we're going to lower some tariffs," the president said then. "We're going to have some coffee come in."

    Tariff checks?

    Despite pulling back on so many tariffs, Trump used his comments aboard Air Force One on Friday night to repeat his past assertions that his administration would use revenue the federal government has collected from import levies to fund $2,000 checks for many Americans.

    The president suggested such checks could be issued in 2026 but was vague on timing, saying only, "Sometime during the year." Trump, however, also said federal tariff revenue might be used to pay down national debt — raising questions about how much federal funding would be needed to do both.

    Trump rejected suggestions that attempting direct payments to Americans could exacerbate inflation concerns — even as he suggested that similar checks offered during the coronavirus pandemic, and by previous administrations to stimulate the economy, had that very effect.

    "This is money earned as opposed to money that was made up," Trump said. "Everybody but the rich will get this. That's not made up. That's real money. That comes from other countries."

  • The first 3 up for auction sell in LA
    The first three Bob Ross paintings auctioned to support public broadcasting sold in Los Angeles on Tuesday for a record-shattering $662,000. The rest will go up for auction in various cities throughout 2026. Ross painted many of them live on his PBS show.

    About the sale: Bonhams says the works attracted hundreds of registrations, more than twice the usual number for that type of sale. Each sold for more than its estimated worth, led by Winter's Peace, which fetched $318,000 to set a new Ross auction record.

    Why now: In October, the nonprofit syndicator American Public Television (APT) announced it would auction off 30 of Ross' paintings to raise money for public broadcasters hit by federal funding cuts. It pledged to direct 100% of its net sales proceeds to APT and PBS stations nationwide.

    The first of 30 Bob Ross paintings — many of them created live on the PBS series that made him a household name — have been auctioned off to support public television.

    Ross, with his distinctive afro, soothing voice and sunny outlook, empowered millions of viewers to make and appreciate art through his show The Joy of Painting. More than 400 half-hour episodes aired on PBS (and eventually the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) from 1983 to 1994, the year before Ross died of cancer at age 52.

    Ross' impact lives on: His show still airs on PBS and streams on platforms like Hulu and Twitch . It has surged in popularity in recent years, particularly as viewers searched for comfort during COVID-19 lockdowns. Certified instructors continue teaching his wet-on-wet oil painting technique to the masses , and the Smithsonian acquired several of his works for its permanent collection in 2019. But his artwork rarely goes up for sale — until recently.

    In October, the nonprofit syndicator American Public Television (APT) announced it would auction off 30 of Ross' paintings to raise money for public broadcasters hit by federal funding cuts. It pledged to direct 100% of its net sales proceeds to APT and PBS stations nationwide.

    Auction house Bonhams is calling it the "largest single offering of Bob Ross original works ever brought to market."

    Ross has become synonymous with public broadcasting and some activists have even invoked him in their calls for restoring federal funding to it.

    "It's a medium that Bob just cherished," said Joan Kowalski, president of Bob Ross, Inc., in a phone call with NPR. "With the cuts, it's just a natural inclination to support public television."

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    "Winters Peace," which Ross painted on-air in 1993, was among the first of his works to be auctioned to support public television, in California in November.
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    The first three paintings sold in Los Angeles on Tuesday for a record-shattering $662,000. Bonhams says the works attracted hundreds of registrations, more than twice the usual number for that type of sale. Each sold for more than its estimated worth, led by "Winter's Peace," which fetched $318,000 to set a new Ross auction record.

    "As anticipated, these paintings inspired spirited bidding, achieved impressive results and broke global auction records, continuing the momentum we've seen building in [Ross'] market," said Robin Starr, the general manager of Bonhams Skinner, the auction house's Massachusetts branch. "These successes provide a solid foundation as we look ahead to 2026 and prepare to present the next group of Bob Ross works."

    Painting of a snow covered landscape.  A small house is in the foreground, in the distance a frozen lake and a mountain range beyond. The sky is painted in hues of yellow, red and blue. Tall pine trees surround the house and lake
    "Winter's Peace," which Bob Ross painted on-air in 1993, is among his first three works going up for auction in November. He used especially vibrant colors with his TV audience in mind.
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    The next trio of paintings will be auctioned in Massachusetts in late January. The rest will be sold throughout 2026 at Bonham's salerooms in Los Angeles, New York and Boston.

    How the offering could benefit public broadcasters 

    At President Donald Trump's direction, Congress voted in July to claw back $1.1 billion in previously allocated funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), leaving the country's roughly 330 PBS and 244 NPR stations in a precarious position.

    CPB began shutting down at the end of September, PBS has already cut 15% of its jobs, and several local TV and radio stations have also announced layoffs and closures.

    A woman in the center of the photo is pictured leaning on a stroller. She is holding a paint palette in her left hand. Behind her is a young boy. She, the boy, and the small child sitting in the stroller are all wearing brown afro wigs. The wigs are meant to mimic the hair of Bob Ross, the iconic PBS painter and star of his own show. A man standing next to the woman and children holds a picture frame with a painting of Bob Ross and the words, "No PBS, no Bob"
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    "I think he would be very disappointed" about the CPB cuts, Kowalski said of Ross. "I think he would have decided to do exactly what we're doing right now ... I think this would have probably been his idea."

    Kowalski, whose parents founded Bob Ross Inc. together with the painter in 1985, said Ross favored positive activism over destructive or empty rhetoric.

    "That just was his nature," she said. "He was like that in real life. So I think this would have been exactly the thing that he would have chosen. I suddenly got really emotional thinking about that."

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    Ross spent about 26 minutes painting "Home in the Valley" on live TV in October 1993. It's been in storage ever since and will go on sale in November.
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    The Ross auction aims to help stations pay their licensing fees to the national TV channel Create , which in turn allows them to air popular public television programs including The Best of the Joy of Painting (based on Ross' show), America's Test Kitchen, Rick Steve's Europe and Julia Child's French Chef Classics.

    Bonhams says the auction proceeds will help stations — particularly smaller and rural ones — defray the cost burden of licensing fees, making Create available to more of them.

    "This enables stations to maintain their educational programming while redirecting funds toward other critical operations and local content production threatened by federal funding cuts," the auction house says.

    Ross' paintings rarely hit the market

    The 30 paintings going up for sale span Ross' career and are all "previously unseen by the public except during their creation in individual episodes" of The Joy of Painting, according to Bonhams. Many have remained in secure storage ever since.

    They include vibrant landscapes, with the serene mountains, lake views and "happy trees" that became his trademark.

    Ross started painting during his 20-year career in the Air Force, much of which was spent in Alaska. That experience shaped his penchant for landscapes and ability to work quickly — and, he later said , his desire not to raise his voice once out of the service.

    Once on the airwaves, Ross' soft-spoken guidance and gentle demeanor won over millions of viewers. His advice applied to art as well as life: Mistakes are just "happy accidents," talent is a "pursued interest," and it's important to "take a step back and look."

    "Ross' gentle teaching style and positive philosophy made him a cultural icon whose influence extends far beyond the art world," Bonhams says.

    While Ross was prolific, his paintings were intended for teaching instead of selling, and therefore rarely go on the market.

    In August, Bonhams sold two of Ross' early 1990s mountain and lake scenes as part of an online auction of American art. They fetched $114,800 and $95,750, surpassing expectations and setting a new auction world record for Ross at the time. Kowalski says that's when her gears started turning.

    "And it just got me to thinking, that's a substantial amount of money," she recalled. "And what if, what if, what if?"

    Bonhams officially estimates that the 30 paintings could go for a combined total between $850,000 and $1.4 million. But Starr, of the auction house, predicted in October that they will continue to exceed expectations, based on their artistic value, nostalgia factor and more.

    "Now we add in the fact that these are selling to benefit public television, I think the bidding is going to be very happy," she said. "Happy trees, happy bidding."

    Disclosure: This story was edited by general assignment editor Carol Ritchie and managing editor Vickie Walton-James. Under NPR's protocol for reporting on itself, no NPR corporate official or news executive reviewed this story before it was posted publicly.
    Copyright 2025 NPR

  • There's a social club for it
    Customers sitting inside a diner as food is being prepared
    The counter was full on The Pantry's last day.

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    If you’re mourning the — probably — impending closure of Cole’s downtown or one of the other handful of classic Los Angeles eateries we’ve lost in the past few years, you might find camaraderie in a local social club.

    For about a year now, Jake Hook has been holding monthly meetings of what is called the Diner Preservation Society . "Diner" is a loose term for the group.

    The society: It's called Diner Preservation Society, founded by Jake Hook, a philosophy professor by day and lover of old diners by design.

    Diners, diners, diners: Hook has also compiled a massive list of classic joints in our region. And this month, the club launched the Diner Theory podcast .

    Read on ... for details about the next meet-ups.

    If you’re mourning the — probably — impending closure of Cole’s downtown or one of the other handful of classic Los Angeles eateries we’ve lost in the past few years, you might find camaraderie in a local social club.

    For about a year now, Jake Hook has been hosting monthly meetings of the Diner Preservation Society . "Diner" is a loose term for the group.

    At classic joints like Philippe’s and the recently closed Papa Cristo’s , attendees talk about their favorite eateries and what they can do to save the ones we’re at risk of losing.

    “Diners are the classic American third space. They are where communities happen. And you can see that by how worked up people get when diners close,” Hook said.

    Take the recent closure of the Pantry downtown. Now it looks as if it will be reopening , but Hook said people from across the city showed up in droves before it shuttered.

    “So much so that the wait on the last day was about seven hours. And I endured all seven hours,” they told LAist.

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    A philosophy professor by day, Hook’s enduring love of diners led them to compile a massive list of classic joints in our region . And this month, they launched the "Diner Theory" podcast , which delves into topics “at the intersection of food and philosophy.”

    Hook, 31, said they think younger generations are looking for spaces that feel more human in an increasingly online world. And diners fill that void.

    “It’s something that unites people who have lived here from generation to generation to have these experiences in roughly the same way. And I think that’s valuable for forming some kind of citywide identity,” they said.

    Plus, there’s really good, cheap food.

    If you’d like to attend the next meeting of the Diner Preservation Society, visit their Substack to learn more.

    Upcoming club meetings:

    Shakers
    601 Fair Oaks Ave.
    South Pasadena
    Saturday at 10 a.m.

    Bun N Burger
    1000 E. Main St.
    Alhambra
    Dec. 13 at 10 a.m.