
If you were planning on leisurely filling out your one-click holiday shopping list this year, too bad. Amazon.com is running way behind. Or maybe they are blackmailing you into joining their new membership club, Amazon Prime. If you place an order today, December 8th, and pay for 2-day shipping, you can't trust your items will arrive by Christmas, much less in time for Hanukkah. They warn you:
Estimated delivery date for these 7 items: December 23, 2008 - December 29, 2008
Even if you pay for 1-day shipping, you get this notice:
Estimated delivery date for these 7 items: December 22, 2008 - December 23, 2008
Imagine the way you're going to be biting your nails and peeking through the curtains like you're on coke waiting for that UPS truck on the 23rd. Back orders, paperwork, loading trucks - we understand shipping time is not only time en route, but come on, paying 2-day shipping and not receiving a package until 21 days later?
But if you sign up for a free trial of Amazon Prime you automatically get free 2-day shipping on your order and the possibility of overnight delivery on future orders. We wonder if the Amazon Prime 2-day orders have an earlier estimated arrival date. We figured, why succumb to their pushy marketing? Below the jump are a few other options for online shopping. Feel free to add your own favorites in the comments section.
Barnes and Noble had all of the same books and music merchandise with the same discounts. They promise free 3-day delivery and that items are "usually shipped within 24 hours".
Borders has free standard (3-8 day) shipping with books shipping withing 24 hours.
Powells Books, the keeper of hard-to-find and out-of-print books usually ships within 24 hours. Double check, as many of the books are used if you are giving them as gifts. Of course, cool friends won't mind.
This does not even begin to touch on all of the independent bookstores, record stores, toy stores, etc. That could really use your business. Feel free to share.
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Beware of Amazon's Prime deal: we got fooled into trying it for free a few months ago, and it took us forever to get disentangled while they were charging our credit card without our approval. We eventualy had to show some teeth to get the matter resolved.
I wonder what's different this year than in past years. I've had great luck with them in the past over the holidays. Also, they're part of a "free shipping" promo this month, where dozens of stores are offering free shipping on Dec 18th with promises of delivery by Christmas. Whoops.
It depends what you're ordering, no?
I can tell you I ordered a oddball miscellany of things Friday night (DVDs, a book, some cologne (which I couldn't find anywhere else west of paris and I am stoked!) and some kitchen gear. All of which has already shipped out over the weekend with delivery estimates this week.
Not sure you can make the blanket assumption all deliveries will be slow because yours is.
They're probably just covering their asses, not a insane plot to undermine the world and take advantage of you.
If you do feel the need to do sensationalist 'a la local evening news" piece again, you might want to do your research. Amazon heavily relies on UPS, which is also severely cutting employee hours this month, while a few of their delivery service contractor have been shrinking in size. That resulting in the reduced ability to hire seasonal increases in volume MAY have something more to do with it.
Maybe. Unless you really think they've had Amazon Prime for all these years and their masterplan always had xmas 2008 as "the time our plan goes into effect."
I just ordered a hodgepodge of stuff from amazon and received over half the order before promised delivery (the rest came right on time).
I was so impressed how quickly everything arrived - hopefully I'm not one of the few.
"It depends what you're ordering, no?"
I was ordering books,CDs and DVDs. I tested it out with different items and got the same results. The only thing guaranteed to ship was saskatoon jelly from a 3rd party.
"Unless you really think they've had Amazon Prime for all these years and their masterplan always had xmas 2008 as "the time our plan goes into effect."
It was the aggressive marketing and constant repetition of the pitch that made me get suspicious of their motives. Anyways, I better go - I have a lead that the pope may have killed Kennedy in order to to set up Cuba as a hiding place for Elvis, Jim Morrison, Marilyn Monroe and Kurt Cobain.
hmm half of my stuff got here early and the other half...
still waiting.
sigh.... i feel like a kid again though, running home from work to see my mail...empty
again.
The delivery completely depends on the item you choose. If the availability is more than 3 or 5 days then it takes more time to get delivered. They normally provide free shipping for all the orders above $25.00. I think you have selected a item which is not immediately available. Ands regarding Free Prime I think we can cancel before one month is completed. This season I have placed orders earlier and got all the items before promised estimated delivery dates.
This is a ridiculous article- complete nonsense.
The thing to watch out for are the items that are shipped from Amazon versus the things shipped by third party sellers. I use Amazon Prime for over 100 shipments per year and it's 98% on time. If it's in stock and sold by Amazon- I can depend on it. Overnighting laptops for my company for $3.99 is pretty awesome. It's cheaper than the time it takes to drive to the store.
I want a version of Amazon where it's no third party sellers. As it is, I have to click on that filter after many searches to see the things that ship fast.
Mattmck
I never promised you a rose garden.
As I mentioned earlier I was so surprised by the unusual shipping times I went back and tried it again and again with different items.
The only items that promised delivery within a week were from third party sellers.
I signed up for a month of free amazon prime last year and canceled before the end of the trial period. @1: If you signed up for Amazon Prime, even if it was during a free trial, you GAVE them permission to charge your credit card when the trial was over. It's listed in the terms and conditions. Just like everything else with a free trial. You just forgot to cancel. No one was doing anything without your permission.
I've places 3-4 orders with amazon in the past month, including one on Friday, and everything has gotten here on time/looks like it will arrive soon. You CAN track your packages through either UPS or USPS.
Has anyone contacted Amazon for confirmation that they're running behind and for an explanation?
BTW, I'm buying several items from them right now and am getting a very normal three day shipping quote with standard shipping--no evidence of any delay at all.
@Elise - Are you sure that all the items you were purchasing where listed as "in stock"? Even one item which isn't can hold up an entire order for weeks.
I got a normal shipping quote when I ordered yesterday too.
Elise - I think you've made some kind of mistake here. I just checked, and as the others have said, everything seems 100% normal to me. You might consider checking this out a bit further and updating the article.
As of this morning, Dec 10, all items are listed as in stock and with 2-day delivery I get this message:
Estimated delivery date for these 7 items: December 24, 2008 - December 30, 2008
And with 1 day shipping it is
Estimated delivery date for these 7 items: December 23, 2008 - December 29, 2008
I went back in and took out every item but one, and it changes the date to guaranteed by Friday, December 12th. Either it's big orders or one thing can hold up an order.
But everything on my original list was listed as in stock.
I will just have to buy them one by one.
i miss the six month Prime trial. Now, I rely on the standard shipping, which my recent purchase was shipped so I will get it sometime next week.
I've been an Amazon customer for over 10 years, and I often use Amazon to buy gifts for friends and family for holidays.
Quite frankly, there is a lot of inaccurate and/or vague information in this article. It simply has no basis whatsoever, it looks like it was written purely to get attention or by someone who isn't fluent in online shopping. In fact, I find it almost impossible to get the same scenarios that are described. Someone ought to post some specific examples.
First, the article doesn’t indicate whether the writer was looking at items sold by Amazon or items sold by third party sellers. Amazon has a lot of items sold by third party sellers, ranging from big companies like Target, down to small mom & pop outfits. These sellers may not necessarily have all of the same shipping options as Amazon, and it may take them a lot longer to process orders.
Secondly, when ordering from Amazon, there isn’t really a difference in shipping speed for Prime vs. non-Prime customers, when looking at the same item. Prime is simply a membership to get unlimited free two-day shipping, and one-day shipping at $3.99. But EVERYONE, even non-Prime customers, can use two-day and one-day shipping if it is available. They just have to pay more for it, but the speed is the same.
Most “in-stock” Amazon sold items ship in two days or less. Many items have guarantees for the fast shipping methods (“order in XX hours and get by XX day). But just because something is “in-stock”, doesn’t always mean it ships this fast. Some items have a bit longer processing time (“takes an additional 3 to 4 days to process”). When looking at items, it’s important to pay attention to the lead time as well as who the item is sold and shipped by. Amazon is almost always the fastest way to get an item, compared to the other sellers on Amazon.
With regards to large orders, the size doesn't matter. What matters again is what is in the order. Does it include items from slower third party seller? Do some of the items (like a TV) require slower ship options or special handling? Do any of the items require extra processing time? Whenever I order more than one item sold by Amazon, I'm able to keep them in one big group to save money on shipping, or have them shipped seperately. If you ship them seperately, then the faster items will arrive more quickly and the slowest items may arrive after Christmas. Since I'm a Prime customer, I don't worry about splitting up the order into small shipments, as it's all free for two-day anyway. Order size in itself does not affect speed.
If anyone has noticed recently, Amazon has a specific message for all of its items indicating whether or not the thing will arrive by Christmas. As a last minute shopper, I find this to be a really helpful and cool feature! I can’t count all of the times over the years that I’ve been clicking away a few days before Christmas, ordering gifts that arrived in time. Now, it's like it reads my mind.
Honestly, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that Amazon, like most retailers, makes its money during the holidays. Why would Amazon ship items to non-Prime customers more slowly? They might as well put a gun to their head and pull the trigger.
Prime is a cool benefit if you shop online a lot. $79 a year for free two-day shipping, that adds up after just a few orders. But, like anything, if it isn’t worth it to you, don’t buy it. Amazon still offers everyone else free shipping on orders over $25 as well as the faster options at a price.
And as far as buying stuff on Amazon, I still have yet to find ANY site that has the precision and accuracy to tell me when my order will arrive, update me while it’s enroute and time and time again deliver on that promise.
Note that there are some pretty hefty items out there that qualify for Amazon Prime free two-day shipping. Search refrigerators, propane grills, metal safes, large TVs and power tools.
What would it cost you and I to ship a 150lb refrigerator via UPS with two-day delivery? How about one-day delivery? I bet it would cost more than $3.99!
Using the exact same shipping dimensions for this 150lb refrigerator, UPS quotes a cost of $786 for one-day shipping and $591 for two-day, shipping from LA to Chicago.
If you are non-prime, Amazon charges $75 for two-day shipping on just this one item, and $147 for one-day. The refrigerator itself costs only $142.
But Prime members get it for free two-days, and $3.99 one-day.
Hmmmm, sure looks like the $79 Prime membership is a good deal. I easily break even with my Prime membership, with just a handful of orders per year. Saves me in gas money too!
This article was written by a faithful Amazon customer who lost her shit at 4am when she couldn't get her items shipped on time. Although LAist is now less about rants, one slips through every now and then.
Seth:
Point 1: I address the 3rd party issue in comments.
#2 that was my question to the readers, as I wasn't about to sign up for it.
I have never seen Prime pushed like that before, and along with the insane 3-week delivery times that kept popping up, it was pissing me off.
That really sucks. I have to say, that hasn't been my experience. I guess there are the exceptions, like with anything.
It seems like I see the Prime shipping on just about everything these days. I'm not the type of person that likes to subscribe to memberships or pay extra fees, but I took the plunge awhile back and I think it's really paid off.
I still don't understand how Amazon can even offer this. There doesn't seem to be any way that they are making money directly off the $79 fee. It's hard to see how it's a scam or a conspiracy to get people to join. Wouldn't they make more money from selling more items before Christmas, instead of off the $79 fee?
Have you noticed the "Ordering for Christmas?" message? It's on just about every item these days, and as of a few minutes ago, 100% of the items I randomly checked promised that they would be delivered before Christmas. Most of them would arrive in time with free Standard Shipping as well.
According to Amazon's holiday shipping help page, you may order items up until Dec 18 for standard shipping, Dec 22 @ 3pm for 2-day shipping, and Dec 23 @ 3pm for 1 day shipping, and still get the stuff by Dec 24. It says that the cost is "free" or "$3.99" with Prime, but Prime is not required to get an item at that speed.
Amazon Holiday Shipping