Last night Republican Mike Pence and Democrat Tim Kaine faced off in their one and only vice presidential debate.
Pundits had been predicting a snooze fest, but there were plenty of feisty exchanges.
But, analysts seem to agree that last night's debate might not have swayed voters too much one way or another.
Then there are the Americans who don't really like either presidential candidate... and their running mates don't make the tickets look any more appealing.
Lots of eligible voters are vowing that come November 8th they just won't vote.
For more on this camp, we turn now to two guests - Michael McDonald, a political scientist at the University of Florida who heads the United States Elections Project, and Ange Marie Hancock, associate professor of political science at the University of Southern California.
To hear the full conversation, click the blue player above.