Labor Day is over, fall is on the way, and parents all across the country are dealing with a new reality: the empty nest.

It's a time of transition for parents and kids alike. And it's one that families have gone through for centuries now. But is it any different in a world where many parents wait until later to have kids and where social media proliferates?

Writer, actor and new empty-nester Annabelle Gurwitch and NPR science correspondent

, a father of two sons now in college, talked with Alex Cohen about the modern state of the empty nest.

To hear the full interview, click the blue player above.