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Lt Gov Gavin Newsom on Prop 8 and the Supreme Court

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom looks on during a press conference announcing the launch of a national initiative to open 311 customer service centers to developers March 3, 2010 in San Francisco.
Then San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, in 2010.
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Lt Gov Gavin Newsom on Prop 8 and the Supreme Court

Prop 8 is dead.  Lt Governor Gavin Newsom started the whole thing as Mayor of San Francisco, and we had a wide-ranging interview the day after the Supreme Court decision came down. 

"Considering the conservative and cautious nature of this court," he said, "We did about as well as I could have hoped and expected, but yeah, sure, I wish they had ajudicated on the merits. I wish we had the kind of sweeping decision" that came from Judge Vaughn Walker.

I also asked him a tantalizing what-if question. What if then Gov. Schwarzenegger and then-AG Jerry Brown has not refused to defend Prop 8? That would have eliminated the possibility of the Supreme Court deciding as it did, ruling that gay marriage opponents have proven no harm, and so do not have standing in the case.

Newsom says he's had private conversations about this topic, but now for the first time publicly says yes, it might have radically changed the outcome, might even have killed gay marriage in the US, because the court would probably have decided the case on its merits, if it didn't refuse to hear it in the first place.