How some apartment owners avoid renting to tenants
By Robin Urevich | Capital & Main
Published December 16, 2025 11:52 AM
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Some of the biggest landlords in the Los Angeles area are skirting anti-discrimination laws and turning away people seeking housing under the Section 8 program, a Capital & Main investigation found.
About the investigation: The yearlong investigation used public records, interviews and fair housing tests that included hundreds of inquiries to examine Section 8 voucher acceptance by some of the Los Angeles area’s largest landlords: Equity Residential, AvalonBay Communities, Essex Property Trust, Greystar, Prime Residential, G.H. Palmer Associates and Jamison Properties. While many of these landlords have national footprints, Capital & Main focused its investigation on their Los Angeles County operations. The investigation found that most skirted anti-discrimination laws.
Why it matters: The nation’s largest housing assistance program, Section 8, is a lifeline for tenants across the nation who would otherwise be priced out of expensive housing markets. Under the program, tenants pay about a third of their income in rent, and the government subsidizes the rest. That’s life-changing in Los Angeles, where a one-bedroom apartment costs about $2,200 per month on average, and rent increases have outpaced wage growth, fueling an affordability crisis.
Read on . . . to see how each landlord fared.
The nation’s largest housing assistance program, Section 8, is a lifeline for tenants across the nation who would otherwise be priced out of expensive housing markets.
Under the program, tenants pay about a third of their income in rent, and the government subsidizes the rest. That’s life-changing in Los Angeles, where a one-bedroom apartment costs about $2,200 per month on average, and rent increases have outpaced wage growth, fueling an affordability crisis.
About 85,000 L.A. County residents rely on the Housing Choice Voucher program, as Section 8 is officially known, to afford their rent. Participants are allowed to live anywhere they choose, provided rents fall within limits set by local housing authorities.
Yet many tenants have difficulty finding landlords who will accept vouchers, even though in California and nearly two dozen other states, it’s illegal for landlords to reject Section 8 applicants solely because they pay rent with government aid. Under a California law that took effect last year, landlords also aren’t allowed to reject voucher holders based solely on their credit history. Instead, they must give them a chance to show pay stubs or other “lawful verifiable alternative evidence” they can pay their share of rent.
But some of the biggest landlords in the Los Angeles area are skirting anti-discrimination laws and turning away people seeking housing under the Section 8 program, a Capital & Main investigation found.
The yearlong investigation used public records, interviews and fair housing tests that included hundreds of inquiries to examine Section 8 voucher acceptance by some of the Los Angeles area’s largest landlords: Equity Residential, AvalonBay Communities, Essex Property Trust, Greystar, Prime Residential, G.H. Palmer Associates and Jamison Properties. While many of these landlords have national footprints, Capital & Main focused its investigation on their Los Angeles County operations.
As part of its reporting, Capital & Main hired and trained testers, who posed as Section 8 voucher holders and contacted leasing agents to ask about apartments listed on company websites.
Agents’ responses to testers’ questions suggested widespread violations of California housing law that would exclude many Section 8 voucher holders. Only one company — Jamison — categorically rejected Section 8 vouchers in many of its buildings.
In a statement, a Jamison spokesperson wrote “the management companies overseeing Jamison’s portfolio accept and welcome tenants utilizing Section 8 vouchers.”
Capital & Main based some of its findings on data collected by hired testers who called, emailed and exchanged text messages with leasing agents at 65 buildings across Los Angeles County in late 2024 and early 2025.
The U.S. Department of Justice, the California Civil Rights Department and nonprofit fair housing organizations have used such testing to ferret out evidence of illegal discrimination, and courts have held that the value the evidence testers provide outweighs the necessary deception in discovering it. Journalism organizations don’t often employ such testing, but when they have, as in a 2019 Newsday investigation of real estate agents, they have brought to light evidence of discrimination that would have otherwise remained unknown to the public. Marin County-based Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California provided training and materials for Capital & Main’s tests.
Capital & Main tested at six to nine buildings owned by each company. Then, after several Jamison agents said their buildings could not accept vouchers, Capital & Main conducted additional tests of its properties to determine how widespread such rejections were. The news organization tested only buildings with rental units priced within the limits set by the housing authorities in their areas. Testers made repeated attempts to understand leasing policies and practices at each building, sometimes reaching out several times to ensure accuracy.
The findings are also drawn from public records requests to local housing authorities for data on how many Section 8 tenants each company had. In all, the news organization reviewed documents obtained under the California Public Records Act from the Housing Authority of the City of Los Angeles, and the Los Angeles County Development Authority, which covers unincorporated L.A. County and 62 cities within the county. Housing authorities in Glendale, Pasadena, Burbank, Santa Monica, Norwalk, Torrance and Long Beach also provided records. Several local housing authorities, including those in Inglewood, Compton, Culver City, Pomona, Hawthorne, Baldwin Park and South Gate declined to provide records, citing privacy concerns, or failed to respond to Capital & Main’s requests.
Capital & Main contacted each company several times to share test results and give each an opportunity to respond to its findings and answer specific questions about its policies.
Here are the results for each company.
The Roya Apartments in Koreatown is one of more than a dozen Jamison-owned properties where agents said they were not accepting Section 8 tenants. Photo by Barbara Davidson.
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Jamison
Jamison, a group of family-run real estate companies based in L.A.’s Koreatown, was the only landlord whose leasing agents turned away testers posing as Section 8 renters, saying they could not accept their vouchers.
Only one Section 8 tenant moved into a Jamison building between 2021 and 2024, according to documents Capital & Main obtained from the Housing Authority of the City of Los Angeles through a public records request.
Jamison entered the multifamily residential market in 2013 and has since built more than 6,000 residential units with at least 2,500 planned or under construction.
Last fall, leasing agents at some Jamison buildings told testers working for Capital & Main that they were not accepting Section 8 vouchers until they received city approvals. For example, in September 2024 notes taken by a tester show that when she called to ask if the Sienna on Serrano apartments in L.A.’s Koreatown accepted Section 8 vouchers, a leasing agent said:
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The leasing agent’s statement was misleading: L.A. housing authority officials said no inspection process is required before a building can accept Section 8 tenants. Housing authorities inspect individual apartments once a Section 8 tenant has selected a unit.
In March 2025, a Capital & Main-hired tester did another round of inquiries about available apartments at 15 Jamison properties. Again, a leasing agent said the company was awaiting city approvals before it could accept Section 8 tenants.
Five other Jamison leasing representatives initially said they accepted vouchers, but two of them didn’t return calls requesting information about income and credit requirements. At three of the those buildings, agents said they would reject Section 8 applicants for poor credit history, even though that’s prohibited under California law. Landlords are required to consider a Section 8 applicant’s pay stubs or proof of government benefits in lieu of credit reports to evaluate their ability to pay.
For instance, a tester who inquired by phone about rentals at the Arden and Sawyer apartments noted the following exchange with a leasing agent:
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At the Westmore in L.A.’s Koreatown, a tester uncovered another apparent violation of California’s fair housing law. In an April 2025 phone call, a tester’s notes show that a leasing agent described minimum income requirements for Section 8 voucher holders that would be impossible for a Section 8 tenant to meet:
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A Jamison spokesperson wrote in a statement that the management companies overseeing the company’s portfolio “take proactive steps, including engaging a broker and nonprofits, to help identify individuals and families who hold vouchers or qualify for income-restricted Affordable Housing units.”
The spokesperson said “It also appears that the tester misunderstood the income requirement stated for Section 8 tenants. The law permits an income requirement based on the tenant’s portion of the rent, not the full rental amount. All property managers overseeing these buildings have rules and procedures in place to comply with all applicable laws.”
Vantage Hollywood Apartments was one of six Equity Residential buildings where an agents said they would reject Section 8 tenants based on credit history alone.
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Equity Residential
Chicago-based Equity Residential owns nearly 15,000 apartments in about 60 properties in the Los Angeles area, its largest market. Its representatives — at eight buildings — said they accept Section 8 vouchers.
But at six of the buildings, agents told testers they wouldn’t consider alternative proof of creditworthiness in lieu of credit checks. For example, in response to a query about the Vantage Hollywood Apartments in Hollywood last September, a leasing representative said in this email exchange with a tester posing as a voucher holder that pay stubs would not be accepted as proof of creditworthiness:
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The Vantage Hollywood Apartments agent and five others at Equity misstated the company’s written policy. Its online rental application says the company accepts Section 8 applicants’ pay stubs, proof of government benefits or bank statements to show ability to pay rent. “If you provide us with that documentation, we will use that documentation instead of credit history,” the application says. But even though Equity’s policy is lawful, its agents’ misstatements would violate fair housing law, said Caroline Peattie, executive director of Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California. She noted that prospective renters would likely be deterred from applying after being told their applications would almost certainly be rejected.
Equity first vice president Marty McKenna said in a statement, “We are proud of our record of providing homes for our residents who qualify for Section 8 vouchers in a region where there is a shortage of affordable housing.” McKenna didn’t respond to an interview request or comment on specific test results Capital & Main shared with the company. “We are confident that we are operating by applicable regulations regarding Section 8 vouchers,” McKenna wrote.
A leasing agent for Santee Court in downtown Los Angeles said they would reject Section 8 tenants based on credit history alone.
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Essex Property Trust
The California-based company, whose board of directors includes former California first lady Anne Gust Brown, appeared to comply with fair housing law at five of nine buildings testers queried.
Capital & Main testers contacted leasing representatives at nine Essex properties, all of whom said they accept Section 8 vouchers. But four of them refused to consider Section 8 voucher holders’ pay stubs or other proof of creditworthiness, even though Essex official policy is to accept such evidence in lieu of credit history. At Essex’s Santee Court in downtown Los Angeles, a leasing representative insisted that a tenant would have to pass a credit check nonetheless, according to a tester’s notes:
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At the Fountain Park at Playa Vista, an agent said the building would “look at pay stubs and bank statements.” But poor credit, the agent said, would require a “guarantor” — an individual who would take legal responsibility for any unpaid rent.
Essex Property Trust representatives didn’t answer Capital & Main’s questions about their agents’ reliance on credit scores to vet applicants. But a company spokesperson said in a statement, “We have reviewed both our written policy and application process and we are in compliance with the law: all Section 8 applicants are approved based on their ability to pay their portion of the rent, not based on credit score.”
A leasing agent at AVA Toluca Hills said a Section 8 tenant would have to meet the building’s credit score requirements in order to rent an apartment.
A leasing agent at AVA Toluca Hills said a Section 8 tenant would have to meet the building’s credit score requirements in order to rent an apartment.
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AvalonBay Communities
At AvalonBay Communities properties, agents said they accepted Section 8 vouchers, but some representatives of the Arlington, Virginia-based company provided incorrect information about how the program works and described credit requirements that are now prohibited by California law.
At four of the six AvalonBay Communities properties queried, agents said they would reject Section 8 applicants based on credit history. And at one property, representatives didn’t return follow-up calls about credit and income criteria.
Several AvalonBay leasing agents showed a shaky understanding of the Section 8 program, suggesting they have little experience with it. When a tester asked in a phone call last October if there was any alternative way to prove their ability to pay if they failed a credit check, an agent at eaves Los Feliz said no. The credit check was “something we can’t override,” and proving with pay stubs was not an option, the agent said.
In response to a question in a September 2024 phone call about minimum income requirements, an agent at AVA Toluca Hills erroneously responded, “Normally when you have a voucher it’s because you have no income.” (Most Section 8 voucher holders who are able to work do so.) The tester followed up with an email asking “If I failed the credit check, would I be able to prove my ability to pay another way, for example, by showing my check stubs?” The agent responded:
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AvalonBay representatives didn’t respond to Capital & Main’s interview requests or written questions.
A Leasing agent for Park La Brea, a Los Angeles landmark, said that a credit check was required for Section 8 tenants, an apparent violation of state law.
A Leasing agent for Park La Brea, a Los Angeles landmark, said that a credit check was required for Section 8 tenants, an apparent violation of state law.
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Prime Residential
The San Francisco-based company owns and operates some 20,000 housing units on the West Coast, including the Park La Brea apartments in L.A.’s Miracle Mile, the largest apartment complex west of the Mississippi, with more than 4,000 apartments.
Capital & Main’s hired testers contacted leasing agents at five Prime Residential complexes. All said they accept Section 8 vouchers. At Park La Brea, an agent said in a September 2024 text message that they relied on credit history to screen all applicants:
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At four other Prime buildings, leasing agents said they didn’t know if credit history would disqualify Section 8 applicants until after credit and background checks were completed.
Prime Residential declined an interview request, but said in a statement, “We work hard to comply with all applicable state and federal fair housing laws, including seeking alternative evidence of ability to pay rent and never denying Section 8 voucher holders based on credit. As part of our efforts to help people take advantage of rental assistance programs, leasing agents and other staff at our properties receive annual training on relevant laws and Prime policies.”
A leasing agent at the Eden apartments in downtown Los Angeles said a Section 8 applicant who failed a credit check would be denied a rental at the building.
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Greystar
Charleston, South Carolina-based Greystar is the largest landlord in the U.S. Leasing agents at all nine Greystar buildings contacted by testers said they accepted Section 8 vouchers. But only two agents said they would consider pay stubs, proof of government benefits or other documents as evidence of a voucher holder’s ability to pay rent. Leasing agents at Desmond didn’t return follow-up calls from a tester inquiring about the building’s credit check requirement. The La Plaza Village, built in partnership with the Cesar Chavez Foundation and managed by Greystar, was built to bring homes to “residents who need them most,” according to a 2019 Chavez Foundation news release. A La Plaza agent said the building didn’t require a specific credit score and that applicants could fail credit checks if their records included evictions or money owed to previous landlords. However, the agent said they would not accept a Section 8 applicant’s alternative evidence of creditworthiness, as this tester’s notes of a September 2024 phone call with a leasing staffer show:
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At the Eden, in downtown Los Angeles, a leasing agent told a tester in a September 2024 phone call that there was a “waitlist” for Section 8 tenants. However the law prohibits landlords from limiting the number of Section 8 participants in a property. Here’s how the tester recorded it in their notes:
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A Greystar representative said in a statement, “We remain committed to fair housing practices and to ensuring that all applicants are evaluated consistently and in accordance with the law.” The company provided Capital & Main a copy of a Greystar rental policy document that it says is given to all applicants. The document explains that “in lieu of a credit report, prospective tenants who use housing subsidies in California can show evidence of ability to pay their portion of rent.” The company’s statement said, “While Section 8 vouchers are distinct from the many other affordable housing programs, we understand that depending on how questions are asked, these programs can sometimes be conflated.”
The Medici Apartments near downtown Los Angeles is one of several Palmer buildings where a leasing agents said Section 8 applicants were welcome.
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G.H. Palmer Associates
Geoffrey Palmer, a competitive polo player and a major campaign donor to President Donald Trump, owns G.H. Palmer Associates, based in Beverly Hills. Palmer has built a reputation for hostility toward government housing programs. Nevertheless, his company appeared more welcoming than any other to Section 8 tenants, based on Capital & Main’s test results.
Leasing agents at all seven Palmer properties testers contacted said they accept Section 8 vouchers. They also showed familiarity with the program, and easily answered their questions about minimum income and credit requirements. Still, at one complex, the Riverpark Apartments, a leasing agent said Section 8 applicants could not provide pay stubs in lieu of passing a credit check. In a September 2024 phone call, according to a Capital & Main tester’s notes:
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Neither Palmer nor members of the company’s executive team responded to Capital & Main’s written questions or a request to discuss the company’s Section 8 policies.
This reporting was supported by a grant from the Fund for Investigative Journalism.
Annakai Hayakawa Geshlider, Arlen Levy, Jeremy Lindenfeld, Maison Tran, Emily Elena Dugdale and Lita Martinez contributed to this story.
Yusra Farzan
has been covering the Rancho Palos Verdes landslide since 2023.
Published December 16, 2025 1:38 PM
A water main broke from landslide activity in the Portuguese Bend neighborhood of Rancho Palos Verdes in 2024.
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Lisa Gladstone describes Rancho Palos Verdes as “heaven on Earth.” But that heaven soon became a living hell for the 72-year-old when unprecedented land movement made her home unlivable. The nightmare didn’t end there. Despite qualifying for federal relief dollars, Gladstone describes the arduous process of trying to stop U.S. Bank from beginning foreclosure proceedings on her home.
How we got here: Gov. Gavin Newsom declared an emergency in the Portuguese Bend area of Rancho Palos Verdes, where unprecedented land movement has forced utilities to shut off power and gas for hundreds of residents. The city also announced a buyout program for homes damaged by the landslides in 2024. Gladstone applied for the buyout. But one of the conditions for the buyout program: Your home can't be in foreclosure proceedings.
Read on … for more on Gladstone’s ordeal and how she’s navigating the bureaucracy.
Lisa Gladstone is stuck between (moving) rock and a hard place.
Her home in Rancho Palos Verdes started ripping apart in 2023 when heavy rains led to unprecedented land movement. So in a last-ditch effort to salvage what they could, she and her husband took out an $80,000 loan to have crews cut their house in half to keep the part on moving land from dragging the whole house with it.
Windows do not close in Lisa Gladstone's home in Rancho Palos Verdes because of land movement.
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Despite their efforts, it eventually was red-tagged as uninhabitable.
So when a city-backed buyout program was announced for residents who lost their homes, they immediately applied. But there was a catch: To qualify, homes can’t be in foreclosure proceedings, and U.S. Bank had started knocking, telling the 72-year-old and her husband they needed to come up with $44,000 by Christmas Day to make the mortgage current.
“ When we get the FEMA funds, we would pay off the mortgage, and we would have enough money that we can live without additional stress,” Gladstone said. “I can't get anyone at U.S. Bank to have that conversation with. Every time I call, they tell me I have to fill out this mortgage assistance document, which is very scary, intrusive because it feels like I'm giving U.S. Bank access to our other remaining assets, which I cannot afford to do.”
But until the federal relief dollars trickle in — and the city has said that could take years — or U.S. Bank gives Gladstone a clear answer, the 72-year-old said they’re stuck in a “ circular, crazy, purposefully defeating system.”
A spokesperson for U.S. Bank said in a statement to LAist that "over the last year, we have been in regular communication with the client to help resolve their situation and continue to work with them directly on the matter. That said, we want to clarify that the property is not and has never been in foreclosure proceedings during that period of time. It sounded like the most recent communication was this week, and the team was going to reach back out to make sure next steps and where things stand were understood.”
Meanwhile, the couple remains stuck in a sort of limbo and has moved out to Moab, Utah, to await next steps.
How we got here
In 2011, Gladstone bought the home in the Portuguese Bend area of the city with her husband, Milton Owens, knowing about the history of land movement.
”We had an independent engineering report done on it, and everything checked out fine,” Gladstone said. “Things hadn't been moving and we lived there almost happily ever after as seniors in a community that was very safe and comfortable.”
Then the land movement started. First, they were lucky.
“ One of the fastest-moving houses in the neighborhood was next door to us, and we had no movement,” she said. “We were across the street from a cul-de-sac, where we had repeated water main breaks for months and months and months.”
Damages to the foundation of Lisa Gladstone's home in Rancho Palos Verdes.
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But when the heavy rains of 2022 and 2023 saturated the ground, their house no longer was spared. SoCalGas and Southern California Edison shut off utilities to their neighborhood, forcing them off the grid, as they watched their house slowly tear apart.
”We hired a structural engineer, and his advice was that we cut the home into two parts and try to have one part not pulling the other part into the slide,” Gladstone said.
So they took out the $80,000 loan and paid for the project, which ultimately failed to save the house.
“ We just did everything we could. We did experimental things, we did things that were intended at first to just prop the house up and keep it from sliding even more,” she said.
In the end, the couple just couldn’t take it anymore.
“ If you tried to turn on the microwave to heat up a cup of coffee, it would blow the light if you had them both on at the same time,” Gladstone said. “You couldn't run laundry, you couldn't turn the water heater on without turning everything else off, and it became the way of life as the whole house was falling in around us.”
Now, the couple hopes to stave off foreclosure proceedings until the federal buyout money comes in. Then, they plan to pay off the mortgage and use the remaining money to live out the peaceful retirement they envisioned when they moved into their Rancho Palos Verdes home.
California’s monarch butterflies get a new gadget.
Faheem Khan
is an Associate Producer for AirTalk and FilmWeek, assisting with live radio production and in-person events.
Published December 16, 2025 1:21 PM
A Monarch butterfly lands on a flower at the Rinconada Community Garden on Nov. 3, 2021, in Palo Alto.
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New tech is allowing researchers to monitor California’s monarch butterflies as the species faces a dangerous decline in population.
The backstory: Estimates suggest the monarch butterfly population has declined by more than 80% since the 1980s due to habitat loss, pesticides and climate change.
The latest: Researchers on the Central Coast are using new technology to track the endangered species' population. “Just this year, cellular tracking technologies have developed a radio transmitting tag that is small enough to put on a butterfly,” said Charis van der Heide, senior biologist at environmental consulting firm Althouse and Meade Inc., speaking on LAist's AirTalk with Larry Mantle.
Hi-tech mini backpacks: These tiny yet mighty solar transmitter tags serve as mini backpacks for monarchs, allowing researchers to track the butterflies in an effort to help monitor their movements. “This tag weighs 0.7 grams,” said van der Heide, adding, “And we just put it on the back of a monarch and let it fly away.”
Get involved: The tags connect via Bluetooth to a public app called Project Monarch, allowing researchers and everyday visitors to help track the butterflies’ movements in real time.
Learn more: Listen to the full AirTalk segment to hear more about the tracking project and how to get involved.
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New tech is allowing researchers to monitor monarch butterfly populations more closely
Topline:
New tech is allowing researchers to monitor California’s monarch butterflies as the species faces a dangerous decline in population.
The backstory: Estimates suggest the monarch butterfly population has declined by more than 80% since the 1980s due to habitat loss, pesticides and climate change.
The latest: Researchers on the Central Coast are using new technology to track the endangered species' population. “Just this year, cellular tracking technologies have developed a radio transmitting tag that is small enough to put on a butterfly,” said Charis van der Heide, senior biologist at environmental consulting firm Althouse and Meade Inc., speaking on LAist's AirTalk with Larry Mantle.
Hi-tech mini backpacks: These tiny yet mighty solar transmitter tags serve as mini backpacks for monarchs, allowing researchers to track the butterflies in an effort to help monitor their movements. “This tag weighs 0.7 grams,” said van der Heide, adding, “And we just put it on the back of a monarch and let it fly away.”
Get involved: The tags connect via Bluetooth to a public app called Project Monarch, allowing researchers and everyday visitors to help track the butterflies’ movements in real time.
Learn more: Listen to the full AirTalk segment to hear more about the tracking project and how to get involved.
Listen
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New tech is allowing researchers to monitor monarch butterfly populations more closely
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Actor/Producer/Director Rob Reiner (center) and wife Michele Singer (L) and son Nick Reiner (R) attend Teen Vogue's Back-to-School Saturday kick-off event at The Grove on August 9, 2013 in Los Angeles, California.
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The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office is reviewing evidence in the deaths of film director and actor Rob Reiner and producer Michele Singer Reiner.Police say the couple's son Nick Reiner was arrested Sunday night and booked on suspicion of murder. He is being held without bail and is due to appear in court for charges. Online records that previously listed a bail for $4 million have since been updated.
Addiction: Nick Reiner had been open about his struggles, saying he started using drugs when he was young; He said he was just 15 when he began spending years in and out of rehab and addiction treatment centers.
Impact of deaths: The killings of Rob and Michele Reiner left friends and fans around the world stunned. "I'm devastated," says cinematographer Barry Markowitz, who shot Being Charlie and some of Rob Reiner's other films.
Read on... for more about Nick Reiner.
The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office is reviewing evidence in the deaths of film director and actor Rob Reiner and producer Michele Singer Reiner. Police say the couple's son Nick Reiner was arrested Sunday night and booked on suspicion of murder. He is being held without bail and is due to appear in court for charges. Online records that previously listed a bail for $4 million have since been updated.
Reiner was born in Los Angeles 32 years ago, one of Rob Reiner's four children. His grandfather, Carl Reiner, was a comedy legend during the early days of television.
Nick Reiner had been open about his struggles, saying he started using drugs when he was young. He said he was just 15 when he began spending years in and out of rehab and addiction treatment centers.
"I am a spoiled, white, rich kid from a Hollywood family," he told NPR in 2016. "But I think it's even more of a testament to how powerful drugs can be that you don't care about any of that stuff."
Reiner has been candid about using all kinds of drugs, including methamphetamine and heroin, and about his many relapses.
On the podcast "Dopey" in 2016, he talked about how he hated getting sober and how he sometimes chose to be homeless rather than go back to rehab.
Ten years ago, after years of bouncing in and out of halfway homes and treatment centers, Reiner decided to co-write a screenplay based on some of his experiences. His father co-produced and directed the movie: Being Charlie, a semiautobiographical story about a troubled teen who has a turbulent relationship with his famous father, who is running for California governor.
"It was never about the drugs," Charlie tells his father. "All I ever wanted was a way to kill the noise."
In a key scene, Charlie's father tells him he loves him and talks to him about supporting him through tough love. "Every expert with a desk and a diploma told me I had to be tough on you," he says. "But every time we sent you away to another one of those programs, if I saw you slipping further away from us, all I could tell myself was 'I'd rather have you alive and hating me than dead on the streets.'"
Rob Reiner told NPR that the collaboration was the most satisfying creative experience he'd ever had– "because I got to work with Nick. And even though we had struggled through some difficult times and the making of the movie certainly dredged those things up, it was also an opportunity to work through a lot of that stuff."
For his part, Nick told NPR that making the movie was part of his long recovery journey.
Rob Reiner attends the screening of "Misery" during the 2025 TCM Classic Film Festival at TCL Chinese Theatre on April 25, 2025 in Hollywood, California.
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"A lot of people that go through addictions of all kinds are kind of hard to love," he said. "So I guess the character was to show how ugly it gets."
In one scene, the character Charlie steals OxyContin from a sick, elderly woman who really needs it.
"I have definitely done things similar to that," Reiner said. "I can't say I've done that in quite some time, but when I was going through a lot of that stuff, sure, you don't really think about anything. You throw your morals out of the window."
The killings of Rob and Michele Reiner left friends and fans around the world stunned.
"I'm devastated," says cinematographer Barry Markowitz, who shot Being Charlie and some of Rob Reiner's other films.
Markowitz, a friend of the Reiners, called them a "stronger than strong" close-knit family. He says he used to stay with the family whenever he was in Los Angeles.
Markowitz painted a different picture of Nick Reiner.
He recalled a young man who loved basketball and had traveled to Europe to learn more about his family's Jewish roots. He says he saw Nick and the family in L.A. just 10 days ago.
"[Nick] was going through some rough times for many years, but his soul was so pure and gentle," Markowitz said. "He was on the upswing. Looked like a GQ model. I wish I could give you a tidbit or something, like 'Oh, he looked bad and this and that' — he didn't. That's what's so spooky about mental illness."
Destiny Torres
is LAist's general assignment and digital equity reporter.
Published December 16, 2025 12:32 PM
Matthew Perry in 2022.
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A second doctor convicted in the drug-overdose death of Friends actor Matthew Perry was sentenced Tuesday to eight months of house arrest.
San Diego physician Mark Chavez also was ordered to complete 300 hours of community service.
The context: Chavez is among five people charged in Perry’s death, including Salvador Plasencia, who recently was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison. Chavez’s lawyer did not immediately respond to LAist’s request for comment.
How was Chavez involved? Chavez pleaded guilty in October 2024 to one count of conspiracy to distribute ketamine. According to prosecutors, Plasencia reached out to Chavez to obtain the drug to sell to Perry. Chavez illegally got his hands on ketamine vials and lozenges from his clinic and a drug distributor to sell to the actor.
What’s next? Jasveen Sangha, a North Hollywood drug dealer known as “Ketamine Queen,” pleaded guilty in September to supplying the Friends actor with the drugs. Sangha faces a maximum sentence of 65 years in federal prison. Her sentencing is scheduled for Feb. 25. The other two people involved, including Perry’s personal assistant, are scheduled for sentencing early next year.