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  • You could get $2,000 toward a new e-bike
    A Latino couple pose while holding their new e-bike in the middle of a park.
    Hilda Jimenez and her husband pose in front of Hilda's new e-bike at Harbor City Recreation Center.

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    Starting Dec. 18, low-income California residents can apply for the state’s new E-Bike Incentive Project. The base incentive voucher is $1,750, but applicants with certain qualifications can get as much as $2,000.

    Who's eligible? You have to be at least 18 years old and make less than 300% of the federal poverty level. That means a two-person household making less than $61,320 a year would qualify

    Why it matters: The voucher program aims to expand access to a more sustainable transportation mode. E-bikes can help cut pollution, but so far they haven’t received the same incentives as, say, electric cars.

    Keep reading...for more details on the new voucher program and how to apply.

    You could get up to $2,000 to buy an electric bike. Starting Dec. 18, low-income California residents can apply for the state’s new E-Bike Incentive Project.

    The base incentive voucher is $1,750, but applicants with certain qualifications can get as much as $2,000. It’s a voucher, not a rebate, so you get the discount at the time of purchase. The money can also be used to buy things like helmets, locks and lights, as well as cover delivery costs.

    Applications open on Dec. 18 at 6 p.m. and will be reviewed on a first-come, first-served basis, so it’s a good idea to gather the documents you’ll need ahead of time. More details on those below.

    Who’s eligible?

    You have to be at least 18 years old and make less than 300% of the federal poverty level. That means a two-person household making less than $61,320 a year would qualify. You can see all of the eligibility requirements and income limits here.

    Applicants have to provide ID, proof of income, take an online safety course, among other things. Approval may take up to 60 days.

    How it's funded

    $7.5 million in funding is available for the voucher program. The money is from the state’s general fund and is overseen by the California Air Resources Board.

    There are also requirements about which e-bikes can be purchased using the voucher. Once you receive your voucher, you need to purchase a bike from a participating retailer. You can find a map of approved retailers here.

    Only 1,500 vouchers are expected to be awarded during this first round of applications. Applications will then open every three to four months until funding is exhausted.

    Why it matters

    E-bikes have quickly become popular, but they’re expensive, with the safest and most reliable models often costing more than $1,000. The voucher program, which was pushed for by bike and transportation mobility advocates, aims to expand access to a more sustainable transportation mode particularly in communities that are overburdened by pollution and have less access to cleaner energy and transportation options.

    Bigger picture, e-bikes can help cut pollution, but so far they haven’t received the same incentives as, say, electric cars. Pollutants from the tailpipes of cars and trucks are California’s largest source of planet-heating and health-harming pollution.

    Research is finding that switching to e-bikes can actually help make a decent dent in that pollution — one Portland-based study found that drivers could reduce their carbon emissions by 12% if they switched up their routines and used e-bikes instead of their car for a few more of their shorter trips.

    Most of us don't drive all that far on a daily basis. In the U.S, almost 60% of trips are done within a 5-mile radius or less. In the city of L.A., people drive on average about 9 miles any given weekday, which most e-bikes can easily cover round trip.

    By using an e-bike instead of a car 15% more of the time, a person could cut their carbon pollution by an average of 225 kilograms per year. That's equivalent to the amount of planet-heating emissions spewed from a gas-powered car that's driven 558 miles.

    Some things to consider

    E-bikes can be more accessible for people who may not be able to ride a traditional bike. They’re less tiring and can go further distances without as much strain. There are also adaptive e-bikes, such as tricycle-style bikes, for people who may not be able to ride a standard e-bike. Plus, they're fun.

    But with their higher speeds and lithium batteries, they also come with some dangers. There have been high-profile incidents of fatalities of people riding e-bikes, as well as fires started by improperly stored, defective or poorly converted e-bikes.

    A rise in e-bike accidents have spurred new e-bike rules in Orange County, for example. Bike advocates say safety while biking is a long-running problem, with the issues being more a result of a lack of good bike infrastructure on roads, rather than the e-bikes themselves. As for fires caused by e-bikes, that’s why buying a safety-certified and well-built e-bike, and knowing how to properly charge and store that bike, is really important. Policy on what exactly an e-bike is, too, hasn't kept up with the surge in their popularity.

    Those issues are in part why there are strict requirements for what types of e-bikes are eligible for purchase through the new voucher program.

    Go deeper

    Read our past coverage about expanding e-bike access, primarily through e-bike share programs.

    More e-bike resources

    Advocacy organization Cal Bike has a list of e-bike purchase incentives.

    Local e-bike lending programs (most of these are still in their pilot phase):

  • It's hidden inside a Burbank vintage store
    Two mannequins in dresses stand outside Hive & Hanger, a vintage shop with a yellow door and honey-drip mural.
    The Bee Museum is inside the vintage store, Hive & Hanger, in Burbank.

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    Hive & Hanger in Burbank sells vintage clothes and antique jewelry. Inside, you'll also find a pop-up Bee Museum.

    What? The owner is Carrie Diazzz, a vintage maven turned urban apiarist. She admits with a smile two extra Zs at the end of her real last name are a homage to her beloved bees.

    The backstory: When the store opened in 2020, it was originally all-vintage. The museum was opened almost a year ago after Diazzz became fascinated with the honeybee.

    A sign on the front door says “Beekeeper owned,” and inside the Hive & Hanger store in Burbank, the layout is a mix of vintage clothes, antique jewelry and something rather unexpected: a pop-up Bee Museum.

    The owner is Carrie Diazzz, a vintage maven turned urban apiarist. She admits with a smile  two extra Zs at the end of her real last name are a homage to her beloved bees.

    When the store opened in 2020, it was originally all-vintage. “I was not looking to change careers,” she said, but after taking a two-hour beekeeping experience course, she was hooked.

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    Hive & Hangar in Burbank doubles as a bee museum.
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    “I don’t like dirt, and I don't like bugs. I'm a heels and lipstick, nails, kind of person,” she said. “There's just something magical about the honeybee. The more you know, the more you want to know.”

    That prompted her to pursue a bee master certification at UC Davis. She collaborated with Elina Niño at the university’s Bee Lab to curate information and research to bring her pop-up Bee Museum to life almost a year ago.

    A crash course in bees

    A sign that says Burbank Bee Museum
    The Burbank Bee Museum.
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    There’s a Bee 101 explainer by the front door, which shows the differences between bees and wasps, and fun touches like pop songs containing the word “Honey,” and a list of Noteworthy Beekeepers including Aristotle, Benjamin Franklin, Leo Tolstoy, Emily Dickinson, Angelina Jolie and Sherlock Holmes.

    One long-standing myth is that honeybees are stingers. “People always ask me how often I get stung, but I don’t wear gloves, and I don’t use smoke, and it very rarely happens. And honeybees die after they sting, as opposed to wasps, who can sting repeatedly,” she said.

    Five bee models sit on a museum display describing bees as pollinators that eat nectar, sting once, and are fuzzy and yellow.
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    Most arresting is a floor-to-ceiling collage series of framed model fruits, vegetables, nuts and berries, all of which the honeybee has a role in pollinating. Beside that is an exhibit on pesticides, one of the insect's biggest threats. Pieces of dried honeycomb are everywhere.

    Diazzz has also been hosting school trips for the Boys & Girls Clubs. “I might be the only beekeeper they will ever meet,” she noted. The point is to give bees the respect they deserve. “Did you know that it takes 12 honeybees their entire lives to make one teaspoon of honey?”

    Rescuing hives across Southern California

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    The Bee Museum serves up not just honey, but bee knowledge.
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    There are no live bees in the store, but Diazzz has her own hives in Burbank.

    “They are from rescues: I cut the hive out from a wall,” she explained. She takes care of hives from San Diego to Bel Air, with many in the San Fernando Valley, and a couple with a view of the Hollywood Sign. Her caretaking quests have taken her on skyscraper roofs, at apartment buildings and in parking lots.

    Almost a year ago, she began her studies as a honey sommelier at the American Honey Tasting Society in Connecticut, where she learned about the science and experience of honey. Her future includes going off to Bologna, Italy, the world honey hub, for the final round of studies and tests at the Albo Nazionale degli Esperti in Analisi Sensoriale del Miele or the National Register of Experts in Sensory Analysis of Honey.

    Small honey jars in varying shades of gold and amber sit on a table, one labeled 'Raw Multi-Floral Honey' from La Crescenta.
    Carrie Diazzz, owner of the store and the museum, sells small jars of honey sourced locally and from her own hives.
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    “Nectar and honey are not the same thing,” she explained. “Nectar is the liquid sticky substance that bees collect from flowering plants and take back to the hive. They transform it into honey by dehydrating the moisture out of the nectar, and capping it over with wax.”

    Diazzz recently held her first informal tasting experience at The Bee Museum, and has small batches of various local honeys for sale: cactus, sage, and honey from her own hives. “I usually leave the honey alone, and only take any extra they have made to sell,” she said, because bees use the honey as sustenance. Her favorite? “A toss-up between dandelion and sunflower. Orange blossom is delicious too, but very sweet.”

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  • Here're 5 games to play instead

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    NPR's Linda Holmes is a daily puzzle devotee. She recommends games that will test your knowledge of geography, history, and even the most obscure corners of Wikipedia.

    Keep reading and dive right into her list of recommendations.

    Maybe you, like me, are a daily puzzle player. Maybe you like a Wordle, or a crossword, or one of the other entries from the New York Times puzzle empire.

    But maybe you're looking for something else.

    So, with a tip of the hat to the people on Bluesky who helped me discover a bunch of games I love in the last month or two, I'm sharing a few games that I'm particularly enjoying these days — ones that are not NYT word games. (No disrespect to my original love, Spelling Bee.)

    There are more, of course: the spelling bee game Beeswax, the word game Smush, the vexing Anthropeum, the movie games Framed and Cinematrix. Truthfully, I have more games in the "daily games" folder on my phone than I could ever actually play daily. But given a choice between puzzling and doomscrolling, I'll take the puzzles every time.

    MapTap

    A screenshot of a globe.
    Any idea where Regina is? Do your best in MapTap's daily geography game.
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    MapTap is a very simple game. You are shown a 3D globe that you can rotate with your finger, but there are no lines dividing countries or territories. So you are just looking at the unmarked terrain of the world, and you are challenged to tap as close as you can to a particular named location. Maybe "London, England, U.K." You tap. It shows you the distance between where you tapped and where the place really is. You get more points the closer you are. There are five questions in each daily round.

    This game can be genuinely humbling, because without those familiar borders showing, it can be difficult to even locate places you are very familiar with. (Without state and national boundaries, it always takes me a minute to precisely find even a place I myself have lived.) But what I love about MapTap is that as I do it, over and over, I actually get better at world geography, which is worthwhile and enriching.

    TimeGuessr

    A screenshot of a game.
    Look carefully: What's your best guess for where and when this photo was taken? TimeGuessr makes you a detective.
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    In the same family as MapTap is TimeGuessr, where each day's challenge is made up of five puzzles that each start with a photo. Your task is to choose, on a timeline, what year the photo was taken, and to choose, on a map of the world, where it was taken. Sometimes, the photos are of historically meaningful events, like the aftermath of a battle or a natural disaster. Sometimes, they are photographs of ordinary people going about their lives.

    The trick with TimeGuessr is detective work. Some hints are straightforward: a sign in the window of a store that might tip off the location (if you can figure out what language it's written in), a license plate, something along those lines. But sometimes, the clues are more subtle. What are the people in the photo wearing? What do the cars look like? How is everybody wearing their hair? It's a fascinating exercise in putting together clues, and again, you can actually increase your knowledge of the world while you play.

    The Loop

    A screenshot of a game. It has a bowl of pasta in the middle.
    Everything is connected (somehow) in The Loop, which is a perfect first-thing-when-you-wake-up game.
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    The Loop is my favorite early-morning game, perfect for when I'm only partially awake. It offers you 12 simple illustrations that you have to arrange in a circle so that each illustration connects in some way to the ones on either side of it.

    So, for instance, in one round I played, a square-root symbol connected on one side to a carpenter's square (because square/square), which then connected to a picture of a toolbox (because a carpenter's square is a tool). On the other side, the square-root symbol connected to a carrot (because it's a root vegetable), and then the carrot to an icicle (because they're the same shape). It can be fun to crack all the different ways that the images connect to each other, but the game design also offers so many chances to get it right that there's a huge amount of grace for making mistakes. That, of course, is why it's perfect for being half-awake.

    Clues by Sam

    A screenshot of a game made up of many boxes with emojis inside each box.
    It's up to you to figure out who's innocent and who's guilty in Clues by Sam.
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    Clues by Sam is a logic puzzle. It presents you with a grid — four across and five down — of people, each represented by a name, an emoji and an occupation. Your job is to figure out which of those people are innocent and which are criminals. (There is no set number; there could be lots of criminals or only a couple.) Your opening clue might say, "Michael is one of three criminals in row 2." Then you click on Michael and mark him as a criminal, and when you're right, that gets you another clue, and so on.

    Like most of these games, this one is enjoyable largely because it's simple, but its diabolical twist is that you can't guess. If you try to label Jane innocent, for instance, and she eventually will be, but the game hasn't given you enough information yet to actually know that, then that answer is wrong and is rejected. You are only allowed to deduce from the clues you have, because it is genuinely the journey and not the destination. Note that Clues by Sam gets harder each day from Monday through Sunday, so if you're a beginner, give it a whirl early in the week to get the hang of it.

    Catfishing

    A screenshot of a game called, "catfishing."
    Catfishing asks you to figure out the title of a Wikipedia page from its categories — which is harder than it sounds.
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    Without a doubt, the hardest game I play regularly. In this game, you get a list of at least some of the categories that a particular Wikipedia page belongs to, and you have to try to figure out what page it is. There are ten questions; my average score is about four, and the highest I've ever gotten is eight.

    For example, if you know a page is filed under "20th century musicians," and "21st century musicians," and "American folk musicians," and "people born in Minnesota," you might start to zero in on Bob Dylan. But be warned: Many of the answers are far more obscure than that, and it's very common for me to give up and reveal the answer, only to learn that I never stood a chance, because I've never heard of the person (or event, or phenomenon) at all. It doesn't matter how many ways you classify certain medieval rulers or political conflicts of 19th century Iowa; I may never get there.

    This piece also appeared in NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour newsletter. Sign up for the newsletter so you don't miss the next one, plus get weekly recommendations about what's making us happy.

    Listen to Pop Culture Happy Hour on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
    Copyright 2026 NPR

  • Unhoused man died after entering interim housing
    Exterior of the Mayfair hotel in Koreatown
    Raz Chowdhury, a 45-year-old unhoused man, died at The Mayfair in July 2026 after being moved to hotel as part of the Inside Safe program.

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    45-year-old Raz Chowdhury was moved off the streets into interim housing through an Inside Safe operation. A week later, he was found dead in his hotel room.


    The backstory: L.A. Mayor Karen Bass’ office said it does not disclose the locations where an individual is placed following an Inside Safe operation. According to Ktown for All, Chowdhury died at the Mayfair Hotel in Westlake, which is used for interim housing.

    A spokesperson for the Los Angeles County Department of Medical Examiner said the case is still under investigation and Chowdhury died at a hotel in the 1200 block of West 7th Street.

    This story first appeared on The LA Local.

    A week after 45-year-old Raz Chowdhury was moved off the streets into interim housing through an Inside Safe operation, he was found dead in his hotel room.

    Chowdhury had spent years living on the streets of Koreatown, moving between encampments along Sixth Street and Wilshire Boulevard and Manhattan Place.

    Sherin Varghese first met him three or four years ago. Chowdhury would reach out to Varghese, a volunteer with Ktown for All, an advocacy group that provides direct aid for people experiencing homelessness in Koreatown. He would ask her for tents, tarps, clothes and other supplies. More often than not, she said, they weren’t for him.

    “He would always go above and beyond to take care of the people around him,” Varghese said at a vigil for Chowdhury on Saturday, Aug. 29.

    Once, after Chowdhury lost his phone during a sanitation sweep, he searched for Varghese online and found her work number. He called to ask if she could bring tents and tarps for him and other people whose belongings were lost in the sweep.

    “He was resourceful, he was reliable, and he was so thoughtful about the way that he talked about how all of this affected him and affected his friends,” Varghese said.

    On June 25, Chowdhury was among 31 people moved into housing during an Inside Safe operation at Wilshire Boulevard and Manhattan Place, according to Mayor Karen Bass’ office.

    A week later he was dead.

    What happened after Inside Safe

    According to Ktown for All, Chowdhury died at the Mayfair Hotel in Westlake, which is used for interim housing.

    A spokesperson for the Los Angeles County Department of Medical Examiner said the case is still under investigation and Chowdhury died at a hotel in the 1200 block of West 7th Street on July 2. His cause of death is listed as deferred and the case is under investigation by the Los Angeles Police Department’s Rampart Division.

    The Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, which oversees the Mayfair, would not say if Chowdhury was a resident when he died. An agency spokesperson said they cannot confirm an individual’s enrollment in a LAHSA-contracted program without a written release from next of kin.

    LAHSA’s latest Inside Safe report shows that 6,406 people had entered interim housing through the program as of July 31. About 1,750 people remained in interim housing, including 289 at the Mayfair. Meanwhile, 1,802 people, or more than one in four who entered the program, had returned to homelessness. Another 126 people, or about 2%, were listed as deceased.

    Bass’ office said it does not disclose the locations where an individual is placed following an Inside Safe operation.

    Once someone is connected to interim housing, ongoing services and case management are handled by a LAHSA-contracted service provider, mayor spokesperson Jieun Kim said.

    Remembering Chowdhury

    The people who knew Chowdhury gathered last week to remember him at the site of the encampment where he had lived at Wilshire Boulevard and Manhattan Place.

    A little more than two dozen people attended the memorial, where they placed flowers at the base of a small tribute to him.

    Planters now line the sidewalk where the tents once were. Several people cried as they shared memories of Chowdhury, who they said spent years looking out for others living on the streets of Koreatown.

    Cynthia Zhang, who has volunteered with Ktown for All for about four to five years, remembers visiting an encampment where Chowdhury was staying after the Los Angeles fires. Newly displaced people there told her they felt safer with that community than they did at shelters.

    “I think Raz was really instrumental in helping create that kind of space,” Zhang said at the vigil.

    The last time Zhang saw Chowdhury, he had moved again and did not have a lot of his stuff. But he had a new puppy named T-Rex and seemed to be in good spirits.

    “He had a really lovely smile,” Zhang said. “I just remember him skateboarding around … all these little things, maybe because I didn’t see him every day, it really does feel like I’ll be walking around and I’ll see him in one of our old spots.”

    David Strugar, another longtime Ktown for All volunteer, said Chowdhury was often the person volunteers went to when they wanted to know how people in the area were doing.

    “I would always point him out and say, ‘That’s the mayor of this area,’ because wherever he was, he was just the center of it, and he took care of people,” Strugar said.

    Chowdhury would tell volunteers who needed what and help distribute supplies, Strugar said.

    A few weeks before he died, Varghese said, she and Chowdhury were looking for places where he could stay outside a 41.18 zone, where the city restricts sitting, lying, sleeping and storing personal property in certain public rights-of-way under specified circumstances.

    Then Inside Safe moved him indoors.

    “I hoped that he’d be one of its success stories, but a week later, he was gone,” Varghese said. “The program is called Inside Safe, but for Raz and 125 others, it wasn’t that. And it was never going to be Inside Safe, and it was never going to be easy to be inside alone for someone who had so much to give and always surrounded himself with people to take care of.”

    The last time Strugar saw Chowdhury, he had his dog T-Rex with him. Ktown for All volunteers don’t know where T-Rex is now.

    Chowdhury believed he had the right to community and companionship, Strugar said.

    “And there are so many people who have so much and won’t give anything,” Strugar said. “And Raz kept having everything taken away from him, and he still ended up being the person to give.”

    He added, “I just keep expecting to walk around the corner and see him, and I’m angry that I won’t.”

  • SoPas doctor makes backyard roast for fun
    An Asian man wearing glasses and an apron holds a roasted duck above a big outdoor oven.
    Hong Pham, aka That Peking Duck Guy, takes a roasted Pipa duck out of his outdoor oven.

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    Radiologist Hong Pham has an unusual side hustle — cooking and selling Peking and roast ducks from his South Pasadena backyard.

    The backstory: That Peking Duck Guy started out as a social media account documenting Pham's culinary journey to make the perfect duck. It then became a side hustle when strangers and neighbors offered to buy his birds.

    Read on ... to learn about how Pham got started and how he cooks his ducks.

    Got a taste for ducks cooked the Chinese way? Your quest may take you to a quiet suburban backyard in South Pasadena.

    That's where That Peking Duck Guy cooks and sells his birds. His clients, he said, include Phil Rosenthal and Roy Choi.

    The guy behind That Peking Duck Guy is Hong Pham, who started the social media account in late 2025 as a way to document his latest culinary obsession: making the perfect duck, be it Peking or Pipa (deboned and flattened into the shape of the namesake Chinese string instrument).

    The intention was not to sell. "I have a day job," Pham said. A radiologist, to be precise.

    "I was actually making so many that neighbors wanted to claim it and offered to buy it," he added. "So I'm like, 'OK, that makes it easier 'cause I don't have to eat it all.'"

    Soon came DMs from strangers asking for the same thing.

    These days, That Peking Duck Guy caters events and holds takeout pop-ups where people can purchase and pick up a duck (which comes with sides and duck soup) from his South Pasadena backyard — right where he cooks them.

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    Peking duck from That Peking Duck Guy served with Chinese sweet sauce, chopped spring onions and cucumber slices.
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    Duck is the latest obsession

    Duck is not his first rodeo. Pham said he and his wife are foodies who've always been curious about delving into Vietnamese and other Asian culinary traditions. For Pham, that also means replicating some of these dishes at home, from scratch.

    He'd gone on a tofu bender — making gallons of the stuff, as blocks, drinks and pudding — and also a bánh cuốn spree, or Vietnamese steamed rice rolls. He landed on duck as his latest subject only because he had wanted to make better heo quay, or Vietnamese roasted pork belly.

    It's the oven

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    Pham and one of his special outdoor ovens he uses to roast duck.
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    He researched how to get that extra crisp online and landed on an oven people in Asia use to make roast and Peking ducks.

    How to get your duck

    Pham hosts takeout pop-ups from South Pasadena backyard. Follow That Peking Duck Guy's Instagram for updates.

    Visit the official website for catering requests.

    "It was called the Apollo oven 'cause it looks like an Apollo space capsule," he said.

    He bought one and then another. In between, he experimented cooking different meats with the new oven to get a feel before turning to the waterfowl.

    He even got advice from Top Chef winner Mei Lin, whom he messaged cold: "She's like, 'Keep it simple. Keep it basic. Keep it traditional.'"

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    Three Pipa ducks inside the oven.
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    Hundreds of ducks later, Pham said he still learns something new. That's one reason why his side hustle has stuck around.

    "I didn't create like, you know, That Bánh Cuốn Man," he said. "Yeah, duck's gonna last."

    How That Peking Duck Guy cooks his ducks

    Pham starts 7 to 10 days before cooking. Here's the preparation process:

    1. He usually trims off the legs and the wings, because those parts get burnt in the oven.
    2. He insufflates the duck. He sticks an air pump in between the meat and the skin to separate the two, so the entire duck blows up into a "huge balloon essentially," he said.
    3. He scalds the skin with a combination of vinegar and maltose to make it "aerodynamic and tight" to get that crispiness.
    4. He seasons the inside of the duck.
    5. He then hangs and dries the ducks for about 7 to 10 days.
    6. Then in the Apollo oven they go. Peking ducks take about an hour and 15 minutes to cook. Pipa ducks take about 40 minutes.

    When does he know they're done? "Well, you know the color, we're looking for that beautiful mahogany glistening skin, you know?" Pham said.

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    Two Pipa ducks fresh out of the oven.
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