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The Frame

Jennifer Lopez gets real; What will #Brexit mean for the film, TV & music industries?

(l-r) Jennifer Lopez as Detective Harlee Santos, Dayo Okeniyi as Michael Loman in the NBC series "Shades Of Blue."
(l-r) Jennifer Lopez as Detective Harlee Santos, Dayo Okeniyi as Michael Loman in the NBC series "Shades Of Blue."
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Jennifer Lopez joins us from the set of her NBC show "Shades of Blue." She reflects on her life as an actress, singer, producer and mother and how she refuses to be "put in one box;" What does Brexit mean for the film, TV and music industries? We check in to see how the UK's exit from the European Union could impact the creative world.
Jennifer Lopez joins us from the set of her NBC show "Shades of Blue." She reflects on her life as an actress, singer, producer and mother and how she refuses to be "put in one box;" What does Brexit mean for the film, TV and music industries? We check in to see how the UK's exit from the European Union could impact the creative world.

Jennifer Lopez joins us from the set of her NBC show "Shades of Blue." She reflects on her career as an actress, singer, producer and mother and how she refuses to be "put in one box;" What does Brexit means for the film, TV and music industries? We check in to see how the UK's exit from the European Union could impact the creative world.

How might #Brexit affect the UK's film, TV and music industries?

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How might #Brexit affect the UK's film, TV and music industries?

The UK vote to leave the European Union has roiled world markets and fueled debates about immigration and national identity.

With two years until the actual divorce is final, there are still plenty of unknowns.

But right away some truths are clear: the value of the British pound has dropped precipitously, and many in the creative communities both in Europe and in the U.S. are lamenting the referendum.

We address what Brexit means for the film and television industries first and then get into what it means for those working in the music industry.

The effect on U.K. film

Nancy Tartaglione covers the international entertainment business for Deadline and is based in France. She took a break from the Cannes Lions Creativity Festival to talk to The Frame about reactions she’s gotten about the Brexit vote.

She first commented on Harvey Weinstein's take on the new legislation. 



Tartaglione: He called it a disaster and a huge mistake. He said that he believes that the vote was not an economic vote, it was about immigration and that people voted out of fear. 

The vote also has massive implications for the kinds of freedom that U.K. film crews previously had to move across E.U. borders.



Tartaglione: If you look at U.K. productions when Disney, Marvel or Lucasfilm or anybody is working at Pinewood, they have a lot of U.K. crews. If you're going to take a production to Hungary or Romania and you want to take the fantastically skilled U.K. below the line people with you, there may be questions about work visas and this that and the other.

E.U. arts funding gave close to $44 million to British films in 2014 and 2015. With the decision to leave the E.U., that kind of financing may not be available to British film studios going forward. 



Tartaglione: The U.K. could end up with status that allows it to access that funding, but you have to ask a question, in terms of when all of these negotiations and re-negotiations are going down:  Is Brussels going to want to give money to a country that just said basically, "See ya?"

The effect on U.K. music

The U.K. music industry faces many of the same issues as those of the film and television industry. As we speak, the Glastonbury Festival — one of the largest music festivals in the world — is underway in England.

Earlier today at the festival, Damon Albarn, lead singer of the bands Blur and Gorillaz, slammed the Brexit vote to the support of festival-goers.

In general, the Festival's reaction to the Brexit vote is one of dismay:

Jem Aswad, a senior editor at Billboard, joined The Frame to talk about the Brexit vote’s consequences for the music industry. He commented that the music industry was largely against the movement to separate from the EU.



Aswad: The BPI conducted a poll before the vote and two thirds of the people in the British music business did not want it to happen. Most of the music business trade organizations said they were opposed to it.

Among the main concerns, Aswad said, are the costs and limitations that U.K. artists will soon face while touring Europe.



Aswad: The whole concept of the E.U is open borders. What this means is that there are now a lot more restrictions and complications, not just with the people traveling, but also with the cargo that's coming in. There's a lot of paperwork and processing that has to be done that didn't have to be done before. The real deciding factor, though, is the exchange rate, and how financially difficult it is for people to remain there and for people to tour overseas.

An additional perspective Aswad shared, taken from a recent Billboard article, looks at the foundation created by European immigrants at the music industry's distribution level. It says that, for independent distributors like Proper Music, whose 120 warehouses rely on migrant workers, that foundation could easily crumble once Brexit goes into effect.

The many different 'Shades' of Jennifer Lopez

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The many different 'Shades' of Jennifer Lopez

In the NBC crime drama, "Shades of Blue," Jennifer Lopez plays Harlee Santos — an NYPD officer who blurs ethical lines and is forced to work in the FBI’s anti-corruption task force while dealing with her own personal demons.

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The show is gritty, violent, and it’s a different direction for Lopez, who’s been known mostly for her pop music and rom-com movies, but Lopez is branching out. She’s still a pop star and has in fact launched a new Vegas show called “All I Have.”

She’s also a producer, and through her company Nuyorican Productions, she’s producing two TV shows: “Shades of Blue” and the family show “The Fosters,” which is about a biracial lesbian couple with a bunch of kids. 

The Frame's John Horn spoke with Jennifer Lopez about how a meeting with the head of NBC Entertainment got her in front of the camera for "Shades of Blue," how her music career has evolved over time, and how she values truthfulness and authenticity in all of her work. 

INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS: 

On originally only being a producer for "Shades of Blue":



I could always picture myself in the role of Harlee [Santos] but it was never something that we thought we would do. We were just gonna produce it, and when we went into NBC, Bob Greenblatt loved the idea of the show and he said, "You have to play this role." And I said, "I've thought about it, but I really just wanna produce," and he said, "If you wanna do this, we'll do it right now." 



It was kind of one of those things, you know, as a producer where you go, Okay, I have a go project right now if I do this and it's a great role." The truth is you don't come across roles like this everyday, especially women. 

On the creative beginnings of her character, Harlee Santos: 



You know, she wasn't originally Harlee Santos, it was Harlee McCord. There were different things about the character that just became tailored to who I am and who I would be in this character. Harlee is so different than me that it's hard for us to say that it was tailored for me, but in a sense it was. I just feel so different playing her than I do in real life. 

On how she takes action on making her character diverse:



You know, in some of the movies I've done, I've played characters that are non-specific, where the name is kind of generic. And I've played Latina characters where you know that she's Latina. With this, it fit really well into the story that she'd be Puerto Rican from Brooklyn, that worked for this piece. There's a lot of Latin cops in New York, it's a very New York thing. We wanted it to be never diverse, the whole cast. So to have the lead be a women and be Latin was awesome. 

On the importance of diversity in the entertainment industry:



It's definitely important to me that people are just people and roles should go to people who can play the parts, but the truth is that we have to create it. This role wasn't out there waiting for me. It's something we created for me. It's the same thing with the last movie I did, it's something we created for me. Nobody was saying, "Hey, let's put Jennifer Lopez in a movie about a mom in a suburban area who the boy next door becomes obsessed with her." Nobody was doing that. 



They would think of a white actress for that role. We created that and we controlled it and I got to do it. It's about taking it into our own hands, not being victims, not saying, "Nothing's out there for us." Yes, we know that that's how the world is. Now how do we change it? What do we do? 

On how she has control over what she makes:



"The Fosters" is the perfect example of something that came across my desk and I thought, Wow, this is great. Look at this family, this really reflects society. Here are two lesbian moms who have children from other marriages, who came together and now are adopting Latino kids. It was so diverse, but so reflective of what families are in this day and age. 



It is important to me to be truthful, I guess, to be honest. I think those are the best projects, the ones that are the most true and honest, and I think that's what people want and what they relate to. 

On the importance of being authentic:



I've always had a certain sensibility and a kind of idealism about life and love. That always poured out into everything I did, whether it was music or the romantic comedies I did for so many years. I just think that at this point in my life, you're right, I'm at the point where I can really pick and choose the things that I want to do and the things that are important to me, and this is what's important to me — authenticity. 



I think having kids, too, changes a certain sensibility in you as well. 

I Hope You Dance

On devoting her cover of Lee Ann Womack's "I Hope You Dance" to her kids:



You know, I wanted to put that song in the show because of the fact that I do work a lot and my kids know that. I always want them to know that I'm always thinking about them and I say this in the show, that they're always on my mind. When I thought about which song to do, it's just the perfect expression from me to them. 



I am someone who loves to dance, and metaphorically, what the song is talking about is dancing in life, to take a chance, to do what you want. It's just the perfect song with the perfect lyrics. The message I want to give me kids is, "I hope you live your life to the fullest. I hope you live with integrity, I hope you believe in God." All the things that the song says and that's why I chose that song. 

On where she was when she wrote "If You Had My Love":



You know, I was kind of this naive girl, just making my first album. I had done some movies and made some noise in acting by doing "Out of Sight" and "Selena" and stuff like that. But as a person, I was kind of naive — looking for love, a hopeless romantic, and when I hear that, it does take me back. When I think about where I was then and where I am now, I'm very pleased with the mom I am, and the person that I've become. And the way artistically where my life is going, and the things that I'm getting to do at this point in my career after so many years, to have so many opportunities to have the drive to still want to create them.  

If You Had My Love

On not being put in a box:



For me, I think for people, and for myself especially, there's many different sides to me. I am that person, that showgirl on that stage, J. Lo, giving that concert. And I am an actress, a true actress, who loves the art of acting and who loves producing and loves being able to sink her teeth into a meaty role. That's what I get to do here on "Shades of Blue" and I feel super grateful to be able to do both and do all the other things that I do. 



But I'm not gonna be put in one box, like, You have to do just this or do this to be great at something. You can do many things and do them great and strive and thrive in those areas. That's just who I am, and if my life represents anythings, I think that's what it represents — that you can do whatever you want to do. 

"Shades of Blue" is currently shooting its second season.