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The Frame

'The Interview' revenue; J.C. Chandor's 'A Most Violent Year'; David Lynch's artwork

Actress Jessica Chastain (L) Director J.C. Chandor (C) and actor Oscar Isaac (R) attend PANDORA Jewelry Presents "A Most Violent Year" At cinema prive on November 16, 2014 in West Hollywood, California.
Actress Jessica Chastain (L) Director J.C. Chandor (C) and actor Oscar Isaac (R) attend PANDORA Jewelry Presents "A Most Violent Year" At cinema prive on November 16, 2014 in West Hollywood, California.
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We break down the Christmas weekend box office and video-on-demand numbers for the controversial film, "The Interview"; writer/director J.C. Chandor talks about his latest film, "A Most Violent Year," starring Oscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain (pictured); David Lynch's artwork is featured in a major museum exhibition.
We break down the Christmas weekend box office and video-on-demand numbers for the controversial film, "The Interview"; writer/director J.C. Chandor talks about his latest film, "A Most Violent Year," starring Oscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain (pictured); David Lynch's artwork is featured in a major museum exhibition.

We break down the Christmas weekend box office and video-on-demand numbers for the controversial film, "The Interview"; writer/director J.C. Chandor talks about his latest film, "A Most Violent Year," starring Oscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain (pictured); David Lynch's artwork is featured in a major museum exhibition.

How did 'The Interview' fare at the box office and on video-on-demand?

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How did 'The Interview' fare at the box office and on video-on-demand?

It was a big holiday weekend at the box office, with three films each raking in at least $45 million from Christmas Day through Sunday.

“The Hobbit” led the way ($54.5 million), followed by “Into the Woods” ($46.1 million) and “Unbroken” ($46 million). And two other films,  “American Sniper” and “Selma,” did extremely well in limited release. 

But the talk continues to be about “The Interview,” the off-again, on-again release from Sony that debuted last week in selected theaters and on platforms such as You Tube and X-Box.

Lucas Shaw, who writes about the entertainment business for Bloomberg News, spoke with The Frame's Oscar Garza about the film's financial performance.   

Interview Highlights:

The online release for "The Interview" did about $15 million in business, according to Sony. Add that to the $2.8 million it did in theaters. Does that add up to a good — if unconventional — opening for Sony?



Yeah, considering the unusual circumstances, it’s pretty good — bordering on great. There was a point where you had none of the major theater chains showing it, so Sony had to make a deal with 331 independently-owned theaters, many of which have smaller theaters than the big guys. So, getting close to $20 million is a good start.



We’re talking about grosses here. For theatrical releases, studios typically split the box office 50/50 with theater owners. Is that also true for the online platforms?



I believe that Sony gets more than that 50 percent split, but it’s unclear especially because this is such a strange circumstance. I don’t know what the specifics are of the deal between Sony and Google. You know, Google [YouTube] and Microsoft [X-Box] are the two online stores who released the movie at first. They kind of stuck their neck out, [so] they may have asked for a more favorable split.

There’s a rough formula in Hollywood that says a movie’s box office performance has to double the film’s combined production and marketing costs. What is that cost for Sony on this film and is there any chance it will ever make money on “The Interview”?



Sony’s cost is $70 to $80 million. It was a $44 million production budget and then the marketing could be anywhere from $25 to $40 million. There’s little chance that Sony makes its money back on this. People assume that they will lose money on it, but perhaps not as much as we all thought a week ago.

So this is really, in some ways, just a strategy to reduce the damage?



Yeah, in many respects for the top executives at Sony, they don’t get criticized as much because they actually managed to get the movie out there and they will not have to lose as much [revenue]. They will still lose a lot of money in having to reset their computer systems and pay for a lot of their employees’ security and settle potential lawsuits. So the cost of the hack will be really high, but the cost of the particular movie has gone down a bit.

Sony was in some ways cornered into this release strategy, but does this have any ramifications for future online releases of major titles?



It may encourage people to experiment. It shows that if you have built a lot of interest in a movie that you can make some money selling it online, especially since it’s only available on only three outlets. I don’t think this will influence the release of "The Avengers" or "Star Wars" – no studio is going to do that because you make a lot more money if people pay to see it in theaters than they pay online.

There was also – reportedly – a lot of pirating of this movie once it got online. Is that just something that Sony assumed it was going to happen, that they could not control at all?



Yeah, once you put something online, especially because they didn’t work out a strategy for the movie overseas, there was no way of controlling it. In an ideal scenario, if you were going to do this, you’d make it available for rent or purchase in a bunch of other countries outside of the U.S. as well. They didn’t have time to work that in this case. A lot of this piracy does happen in other countries.

Writer-director J.C. Chandor spares the violence in 'A Most Violent Year'

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Writer-director J.C. Chandor spares the violence in 'A Most Violent Year'

New York City in 1981 was a city recovering from a fiscal crisis while its citizens were plagued by an increase in prostitution, drug-related crimes and homicides. This is the year and place where writer-director J.C. Chandor decided to set his new film, “A Most Violent Year.”

The film stars Oscar Isaac as an immigrant who fights to protect his business in New York City with his wife, played by Jessica Chastain.

When Chandon stopped by The Frame's studio, host John Horn asked a seeming dichotomy between the film's title and its content.

INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS

Why choose the title, "A Most Violent Year," when hardly any violence happens in the film? 



I've decided to put this couple that's at the heart of the film — a husband and wife who run a business together — but [what] the title refers to is that it's their most violent year. It's their experience in this time. I'm a big fan of Quentin Tarantino movies and the like, but this is a movie that plays on your own bloodlust. This is by no means a spaghetti western. 

You set up early on that there's going to be gunplay, but at the same time, you are setting this up for what they really are not.



Most people who reach real success don't kill people — not to be too cute about it — but what I'm trying to do in the film is really play off the fear, which is really the most wide-reaching byproduct of violence. There's the horrible act at the core and then these waves kind of go out. But as those waves go out, they start to affect this massive population, especially in a place like New York.



What these two are doing is sort of altering their path of what they would normally do under normal circumstances. And a lot of that is not always rational, but it doesn't mean that you don't start steering a civilization or city in an entirely different direction. I'm playing off your expectations, obviously, and hopefully still giving you the emotional kind of fun — that's the wrong word — but the thrill that you would [get] from a classic gangster film. 

The character played by Oscar Isaac, Abel Morales, dresses and acts a lot like some gangsters we've seen in movies before. Was it intentional that he remind audiences of a certain type of character?



The simplest way to put it is, in 1981 — in that world — all of these gangster films of that period literally affected the way people did business and dressed. Just like my father always said after the movie "Wall Street" came out, everyone on his trading floor starting dressing differently because of the movie. Actually, I think Oliver Stone is still upset that people wanted to emulate his villain.



But look, it's a fact that movies affect the way people act and dress and, in a way, I think Oscar certainly has made this character his own. And once you see the movie, you realize what we're playing off against, but it's also just absolutely what that man at that time in that period, from that cultural background, would have dressed like. It's someone who's very formal and wants to present this suit of armor to the world — those '80s power suits with the huge shoulders and everything were designed to come into the room and that's certainly what we're trying to do with the film. 

In all your films, your characters are battling for survival in extreme situations. Why attracts you to these kinds of stories? 



My characters — all of them throughout the three films I've made — I think are normal people [who] just kind of want to keep going with what they're doing. And because of these outside forces, whatever they may be, [the characters] are tested. You know, I'm a pragmatist, too, and to get people off of their couch and go to a movie theater in this day-and-age takes something that has to be somewhat heightened — really give them an event so that those two hours or three hours that it takes to get there and get home are a worthwhile journey. 

“A Most Violent Year,” starring Jessica Chastain and Oscar Isaac, opens December 31st.