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The Frame

Diablo Cody's rock 'n' roll show; EDM's drug problem; 'Daily Show,' Iraq-style

Meryl Streep stars in "Ricki and the Flash."
Meryl Streep stars in "Ricki and the Flash."
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The musician (Meryl Streep) at the heart of screenwriter Diablo Cody's "Ricki and the Flash" represents the common female struggle to balance family and work; an electronic dance festival in L.A. County is marred by two suspected drug-related deaths; Jon Stewart has inspired a group of Iraqi comedians to create a "Daily Show"-like web series.
The musician (Meryl Streep) at the heart of screenwriter Diablo Cody's "Ricki and the Flash" represents the common female struggle to balance family and work; an electronic dance festival in L.A. County is marred by two suspected drug-related deaths; Jon Stewart has inspired a group of Iraqi comedians to create a "Daily Show"-like web series.

The rock musician (Meryl Streep) at the heart of screenwriter Diablo Cody's "Ricki and the Flash" represents the common female struggle to balance family and work; an electronic dance festival in L.A. County is marred by two suspected drug-related deaths; Jon Stewart has inspired a group of Iraqi comedians to create a "Daily Show"-like web series.

Writer Diablo Cody's mother-in-law was the inspiration for 'Ricki and the Flash'

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Writer Diablo Cody's mother-in-law was the inspiration for 'Ricki and the Flash'

"Ricki and the Flash," the latest work by the Academy Award-winning screenwriter Diablo Cody, stars Meryl Streep as a mom who abandoned her family to try to make it as a rock 'n' roll singer.

Cody is best known for her Oscar-winning screenplay for the 2007 film, "Juno." Cody says her new  film touches on the difficulties of being a mother and an artist. She originally got her inspiration for Ricki from her mother-in-law. 

"It is so strange to me now that the legend of my mother-in-law is now out there because of this movie," Cody says. "My husband's mom is the lead singer of a band on the Jersey Shore. She has been doing this for decades. It's not a hobby, it's her passion in life. They are a serious rock 'n' roll band and she is out there every weekend just tearing it up on stage. The first time I saw her perform I was just completely blown away. I had been feeling uninspired for a while and I thought, This is a character. This is a movie."

Interview Highlights:

The movie feels to me like it's about being a mom, becoming a mom, and trying to figure out how to juggle ambition with parenthood. 



My mother-in-law was just the inspiration for the musical component of it, but my own anxieties were what drove me to write the movie. Being a women in an artistic field who is very committed to what she does —I love being a screenwriter and I want to continue doing this, but at the same time I have an obligation to my children. I sometimes wonder where do I find that balance and are they going to forgive me when they're older for the time that I've spent away from them pursuing this.

I would say that it is not unique to artistic endeavors and it is not unique to Hollywood, but it certainly is unique to women that there seems to be a very different standard professionally about women who are away from their children and men who are away from their children. 



Absolutely true. I know so many guys who are directors or writers who are on location for months out of the year. They Skype with their kids at night and it is no big deal because they're providers. People take that seriously. In my situation I'm also a provider, but I don't know if people are as willing to forgive that. I think they see that when a women pursues something it is more like a hobby. By the way, when I make a movie my kids come with me. I brought them to New York for "Ricki and the Flash." I know I put a lot of pressure on myself, more so then a man would.

Let's talk a little bit about Ricki, the character played by Meryl Streep. Hypothetically, if she were Chrissie Hynde, Stevie Nicks, or she was at the very top of her game, the idea of sacrificing family for art would be a little bit different. But she is not. She is playing at a small bar in Sherman Oaks. She isn't a superstar. She loves what she does, but she is not the world's greatest musician. Was that critical to the conceit of the film?



Absolutely. It's one of my favorite aspects of the movie — the fact that she didn't make it. She missed out on some crucial moments in her children's lives and all for naught, which makes it all the more poignant. But at the same time she has this arrogance that I find very amusing. She is on stage comparing herself to Mick Jagger in one scene and wondering why her kids can't look up to her the way Mick Jagger's kids look up to him. It's like, It's because you're not Mick Jagger. She is a little delusional.

As we're sitting here today it looks like you have another bun in the oven. It also feels like in Hollywood, at least — and I think in professional life as well — there is a double standard when it comes to women who are pregnant and working. I think you actually made a film while you were pregnant, is that right?



I have. I have sort of continued to work over the past four years as I have been reproducing. A pregnant women is definitely regarded as a liability on set. In a way I can't blame the powers that be ... even right now, just sitting here having a low key interview, I'm exhausted and I feel spacey. I'm not saying all pregnant women are exhausted and spacey. But I do look back on that experience that I had directing while pregnant and I think, God how did I do that, and why?

What did directing teach you about what you wanted to do as a filmmaker? Did it cure you of wanting to direct? Did it teach you something about writing in terms of what you were going to do going forward? 



I think it confirmed for me what I already knew, which was that I didn't want to be a director. I had been saying that for a really long time. You know, going all the way back to when "Juno" came out people said, "Oh what are you going to do next, direct?" That always seems like the logical trajectory for a screenwriter. At the time I said, "No. It's just not something that I am longing to do."



Eventually I was just three or four movies in and I [thought], I'm going to try it. It was a really amazing experience. I couldn't have worked with a better group of people. I just think that it made me realize that I'm not good at directing and I'm not particularly passionate about it. I'm happy to be back in my sweatpants with my laptop. 

So when you were working on this film did you have an opportunity to talk to Meryl Streep, who plays Ricki,  about the character or about being a working mom? What were the kinds of things that you wanted to talk about? 



I had a lot of really amazing conversations with her. In a way I think she understood the character Ricki even more than I did. It's kind of amazing, her process, the way she crafts a character to the degree [where] now I feel that Ricki is her property. She brought so much insight to it. She didn't just show up and read the script. That is why she is Meryl Streep. She is magical.

How did the character change? What did she bring to it?



For instance, she was the one who said, "I think Ricki lost a brother in Vietnam." That wasn't something I put in the script. That was something she had decided about Ricki. It was cool to witness those moments and see what she could bring to it. 

What do you hope that people take away from this film? Not that it is supposed to start a national debate, but what do you hope people are talking about in the lobby as they walk out of this movie?



I like that Ricki is a polarizing figure. I want people to be having those conversations: I think it is awesome that she followed her dream and stuck to her guns. There will be some people that say, "Yeah, but did she really have to go all the way to California when her kids were at a crucial point in their development?" I am not interested in writing characters that everybody loves. I'm not interested in writing the heroes. I've always preferred the antiheroes. 

It was recently announced that you're working on a new Amazon comedy series with Tig Notaro and Louie CK. What is that about and how far along is it? 



We're heading off to shoot the pilot in a couple of weeks. I wrote the script with Tig, who is the star of the show. It's based on her comedy and her life. What a gift it has been for me as a writer to be able to write for somebody who has such a distinctive voice. I couldn't have dreamed up a character like Tig, so it made my job very easy.

You're working with Amazon. You've worked in TV. You've worked in film. Do you try to mix it up or do you find yourself gravitating more towards one over the other right now?



The idea of working in TV was appealing to me because I thought, Oh, I'll be based in L.A. I can be close to my family. Then of course I write a show that is set down South. I'm interested in both. I do think that my true love is writing films, but I'm hoping to do both. 

Hard Summer Fest: Questions raised in the aftermath of 2 drug-related deaths

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Hard Summer Fest: Questions raised in the aftermath of 2 drug-related deaths

This past weekend, pop star Justin Bieber surprised tens of thousands of Electronic Dance Music fans at the HARD Summer Festival in Pomona, CA, when he performed with Jack U — the megastar DJ duo that is Skrillex and Diplo. But the festival ultimately made news for a very different and tragic reason.

JACK U

Two young women, aged 18 and 19, died Saturday from suspected drug overdoses at the festival at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona. The fatalities were just the latest in a series of deaths at electronic music festivals.

In 2013, the Los Angeles Times found that at least 14 people who had attended EDM festivals run by two major Los Angeles-based rave organizers died from overdoses or in drug-related incidents since 2006. Since then, at least five more people have died in local drug-related incidents.

Zel McCarthy, Vice President of Media at the online electronic music site Beatport and former editor-in-chief at the electronic dance music and culture channel “Thump” on Vice, talked with the Frame's John Horn to discuss the safety measures festivals are taking to prevent these incidents — including the drug safe kit "DanceSafe," and the consequences these festivals face.

Interview Highlights:

So first off, are overdoses more common at EDM Festivals than they are at other music events like Coachella?



Before we answer that, we need to talk about the word "overdose." Overdose implies that there is such a thing as a safe dosage. The reality for a lot of these substances is that people are taking things that they're trying to get MDMA from, which gives you that kind of ecstasy high, but they can be cut with anything from sugar to garden fertilizer. It's important for everyone to know that there is no such thing as a safe dose if you don't know what you're taking.

In 2010 at the Electric Daisy Carnival, when it was held at The Coliseum, a 16-year-old female died. Do festivals now have a minimum age? Do they require that you be 18 or over to prevent underage kids from attending? Is that enforceable?



Yes, and to be clear, that girl's name is Sasha Rodriguez. She would be in college now if she was still here. She was there when she was not supposed to be. There was a minimum age set of 18 for that event.



What has happened in the last few years is a lot of these festivals have been bought by larger companies. HARD is owned by Live Nation as is Insomniac, who is behind Electric Daisy Carnival. They have a much better way of regulating these kinds of safety measures and it has improved things on the whole, but risk like this is inherent when you have large groups of people. 

Hard Fest 2014

On Sunday, two LA County supervisors said that they were going to ask for a full probe to see if the Pomona concert event was properly managed. How do these festivals go forward to prevent incidents like this from happening? Is there a consequence in terms of being able to get permits and get access to venues if these kinds of deaths continue?



I heard that those two supervisors were saying that they were going to look into it, and particularly if Hilda Solis is listening she should give me a call, because I can't imagine she knows too much about what she is about to investigate.



I think it is really important for people to understand that this might not be something that they personally enjoy or that culturally speaks to them. But this is a part of a larger generational movement and drugs are very small component of it as they have been with every musical movement of the last 50 years. 

How worried do you think promoters are right now?



I think they're always worried. I think that anytime I've talked to them in the last 10 years it's become increasingly a problem for them to manage. As their crowds have grown so have the risks. They've brought in more and more experts. They've sought the advice of different organizations. There are a lot of controversial methods of how to keep people safe.



There is an organization in the US right now called DanceSafe that provides drug testing kits at festivals, which allows you to essentially test the substance which you are about to ingest. It's very controversial, understandably, because people think it kind of condones drug use. Other people say, "If people are going to do drugs you might as well empower them with some information about what they're taking."

DanceSafe

Are there any consequences for the festivals themselves once these deaths happen?



I mean, there can be. Case in point, Insomniac, who puts on Electric Daisy Carnival, has been effectively banned from venues in Los Angeles. You know there are financial implications as well. There are festivals all over North America that have had to close up because they can't afford the consequences of having someone suffer this kind of fatality at their event.



I think that most importantly it really ruins the goal of what these festivals are, which is to be a place for people to come together. I think that truly is what people are most concerned about when something like this happens — not the financial impact, not the bad PR, but losing life at something that is there to celebrate life. 

The Iraqi 'Daily Show'? Satirist draws inspiration from Jon Stewart to address extremism

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The Iraqi 'Daily Show'? Satirist draws inspiration from Jon Stewart to address extremism

The last episode of “The Daily Show” with Jon Stewart as its host airs on Aug. 6. The Comedy Central series has been a phenomenon on U.S. television. But it’s also spawned spin-offs and copy-cats around the world — sometimes in places you’d hardly expect.

Case in point: Iraq, where a new generation of comedians has been inspired to follow Stewart’s lead. Over the past two years, Iraq has been beset by the rise of the so-called Islamic State and its often brutal tactics.

Now, the country’s comedians have begun satirizing ISIL, and in some cases, deliberately in the style of "The Daily Show." The BBC’s Yolande Knell reported on how one Iraqi, Ahmed Albasheer, draws on Stewart for inspiration.

The first episode of the "Albasheer Show":