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Free speech on college campuses, how SoCal is reacting to the possible Muslim ban, will the Trump presidency affect the bullet train?

In this Feb. 26, 2015 photo, a full-scale mock-up of a high-speed train is displayed at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif.
In this Feb. 26, 2015 photo, a full-scale mock-up of a high-speed train is displayed at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif. In recent decades, political pressure against bullet trains has come from conservatives who argue that such systems should acquire private financial backing and prove that their operations will at minimum be cost-neutral. It's a burden state and federal governments do not place on other huge transportation projects such as freeways and airports. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)
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Freedom of speech and expression at places of learning, how Muslims living in SoCal are reacting to a possible ban, will bullet train production move forward under President Trump?
Freedom of speech and expression at places of learning, how Muslims living in SoCal are reacting to a possible ban, will bullet train production move forward under President Trump?

Freedom of speech and expression at places of learning, how Muslims living in SoCal are reacting to a possible ban, will bullet train production move forward under President Trump?

Removal of white nationalist posters at UCLA raises questions of free speech

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Removal of white nationalist posters at UCLA raises questions of free speech

Early this week, officials at UCLA removed recruitment fliers for a white nationalist group that were posted around the campus.

The removal of the fliers was not for their content but because administrators say the leaflets were posted by people from outside the university and without permission, raising questions about freedom of speech and expression at places of learning.

For more on how UCLA is tackling this, Take Two's A Martinez spoke with law professor Jerry Kang. He's also the vice chancellor for the UCLA Office of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion.

Highlights

The origin of the posters on the UCLA campus



It's an example of outside provocateurs who take advantage of an open campus to kind of shock and offend. It's essentially internet trolling culture that's kind of bleeding into real space. No one likes to be shocked by seeing white nationalist posters attacking your community but that's exactly what they're doing.  

UCLA's policy on the posters



What I want to make clear is, how a university responds to these kinds of messages is constrained by the laws that exist under the First Amendment. UCLA is a state actor that abides by the First Amendment. We recognize that speech, even if it's horrible, it protected. And I'm not talking about conduct in the form of trespass, vandalism, true threats, or real harassment. But speech, even if it's completely despicable, is generally protected. So, what we do is to apply content neutral regulations that say, hey, if it's an unauthorized poster in areas that are not actually demarcated as areas where people can poster, then regardless of whether it's advertising a bake sale, a surprise party, or in this case, advocating for white nationalists political commitment, those posters are not authorized and they will be taken down. The only other thing that we can do is to exercise our voice. On the one hand, we need to be neutral in some contexts. On the other hand, we as administrators can speak very forcefully and strongly condemn hateful rhetoric, demagoguery, and messages that undermine the importance of community— especially in these times. 

The question of equity in campus clubs 



I think this raises the question about what it means to be about equality or equity and sometimes you can make the formal claim, if you could have black pride, why can't you have white pride? If you can have a Latino student organization, why not have a White student organization. And if you were a Martian who just came down to Earth and never understood any bit of history or social context, that kind of formal equity would seem to make entire sense. In my view however, you can't actually understand something without appreciating history and social context. And the meaning of black Power if different from the meaning of white Power. The meaning of having an affinity organization is in part because you are part of an unrepresented group or come from a history where you were marked as an outsider, is very different from a group that actually emphasizes what it means to be part of the majority and historically dominant. 

UCLA's policy on freedom of speech 



Because we are an institution of higher learning, the idea that you should have the freedom to inquire and engage with substantial academic freedom is something that is kind of built into our D.N.A. So, we have to countenance a lot of difference, the ability to ask hard questions, and to probe them. That is what we stand for. In addition, because it is an open campus and because some areas are essentially public fora, which are kind of like, streets, sidewalks, and parks, there will be lots of people who are not connected with UCLA who come on campus and can actually state their views, often times aggressively, often times with some hostility, to people who are just walking by.  



We have some basic regulations that make sure that you can't be blaring with amplified speech at 2:00 AM— those kinds of regulations that are sensible for any kind of city area and we do apply those. But what we want to be is, most mindful of people who are either breaking these kinds of content neutral rules, in which case we have to actually make sure that we apply our standard policies. The most important thing that I want to underscore is that the university has to speak clearly that even though we embrace that kind of conversation, and even though we want to tolerate lots of different kinds of speech— some of it kind of hurtful and sometimes indeed, hateful— we as the university stand for a particular set of principles which include principles that promote tolerance and always dialogue over any form of demagoguery. 

How the recent rise in hate crimes effects free speech 



We don't to exaggerate and we don't want to suggest there's more problems then actually exist but sure, am I concerned about an increase in conduct, criminal or otherwise that is motivated by hatred? Absolutely. It's something that is part of being a realist and what we have to do is to be mindful that our job is to create an equal learning environment.... That recognizes that there is pain, and anger, and resentment, and just meanness everywhere. But to show that that's not how we operate here. And that the nation's future leaders trained at a place like UCLA, especially given the diversity of Southern California and a public institution, that we have to learn from each other what it means to lead in this new paradigm. 

To hear the full interview, click the Blue Arrow above. 

Hate crime stats show an increase, but the real story could be even worse

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Hate crime stats show an increase, but the real story could be even worse

This week the FBI, through its Uniform Crime Reporting Program, released statistics related to hate crimes from law enforcement agencies across the country.

The report revealed more than 5,000 criminal incidents and nearly 7,000 related offenses that were motivated by bias against race, ethnicity, ancestry, religion, sexual orientation, disability, gender, and gender identity.

But many experts worry about a new focus on crimes colored by prejudice and politics … because many believe that the data is deeply flawed. We talk to Propublica’s A.C. Thompson, who has been writing about it. 

State of Affairs: the 'Trump effect' that wasn't and where Democrats go from here

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State of Affairs: the 'Trump effect' that wasn't and where Democrats go from here

On this week's State of Affairs, the vote count continues in California, the Trump effect that wasn't, and a long-shot bid to do away with the Electoral College.

Joining Take Two to discuss:

  • Carla Marinucci, POLITICO's California Playbook reporter
  • Marisa Lagos, political reporter for KQED

The Ride: Roadmap for LA Auto Show visitors

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The Ride: Roadmap for LA Auto Show visitors

Lots of new sheet metal in town this week. The annual LA Auto Show opens to the public Friday, and our motor critic Sue Carpenter has been prowling the halls of the Convention Center.

Sue says this show is really well-rounded, with all the traditional performance and style, served up with a large helping of new tech, and sprinkled with glimpses of an e-mobility future.

The show runs through the end of the Thanksgiving weekend. Here's Sue's roadmap for Auto Show bliss:

  • Wear comfortable shoes
  • Save dough. Rather than park in the Convention Center, find a space in one of the lots surrounding it.
  • Head to the North Hall first. It's the closest to the entrance. 
  • On the way, check out the Elio 3-wheeler and the Honda Uni-Cub
  • In the North Hall, don't miss the Nissan Star Wars cars
  • From there, go back through the main lobby, past the Tesla display, toward the South Hall. There's a gallery of exotics along the way.
  • Save some time to make it down to the basement where the weird stuff is - car customizers, odd auto products and E-bikes.

Click on the blue bar above to hear Sue's overview of some of the new cars being introduced at this year's show.

Could a Trump presidency hurt or help California’s high speed rail project?

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Could a Trump presidency hurt or help California’s high speed rail project?

The plan to build a bullet train between L.A. and San Francisco has  been criticized by homeowners, environmental groups and business coalitions.

But perhaps the biggest setback to California's high speed rail project has been finding reliable funding sources for is its $64 billion dollar budget.

With Donald Trump in the White House, that may change. During his presidential campaign, Trump vowed to spend $550 billion on infrastructure. That's double what Hillary Clinton promised in her economic plan.

However will Donald Trump support a bullet train in a state where voters overwhelmingly rejected him?

To give an idea of what Californians can expect, Take Two's A Martinez spoke to Martin Wachs, distinguished professor emeritus of city and regional planning at the University of California. Wachs is also part of the California High Speed Rail Peer Review Group which evaluates funding plans for the project.

SoCal Muslim leader on proposed immigrant database: 'We have to use all channels that are available to us'

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SoCal Muslim leader on proposed immigrant database: 'We have to use all channels that are available to us'

As President-Elect Trump prepares to take office, the country debates what policies he may enact once in the White House. One of the most controversial discussions is the proposal to create a database of Muslim immigrants living in the United States. 

Take Two's Alex Cohen spoke with Edina Lekovic of the Muslim Public Affairs Council. They discussed how Muslims living in Southern California are reacting to this idea and the surrounding discussion in her community.

Edina Lekovic on how Muslims in America can express their position in the current political climate:



We have to use all channels that are available to us. Right now, the average Muslim in Southern California— we are living in a sanctuary. Our city affords us inclusion in a way that we don't see in some cities around the country. So, it's that much more crucial that we raise our voices to our elected officials, to media, on social media, and frankly, with our neighbors.



We know that 62 percent of Americans say that they do not know a Muslim first-hand. And that the single greatest predictor of somebody's perception of Islam and Muslims is whether they know a Muslim. So, there's a simple recipe there where we can help move the needle on people's perceptions:  Where we can, get out and get to more people and work in solidarity with other effected communities and beyond. The last thing we should do is stay in our homes, is stick to ourselves, and to feel fear. 



In our faith, we are taught that despair is the opposite of faith. And so we must move forward with hope, with endurance, and with a steady belief that we are better than this.... 

To hear the full interview, click the Blue Arrow above. 

'We are Los Angeles' explores the diverse problems of the SoCal region through art

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'We are Los Angeles' explores the diverse problems of the SoCal region through art

If you've been to Grand Park in downtown L.A. in the past week, you may have noticed some large and colorful angel sculptures on display.

Alvaro Marquez's angel at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
Alvaro Marquez's angel at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
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They're part of a temporary exhibit titled "We are Los Angeles" which features the work of 30 L.A. county artists. Each angel explores a pressing issue facing the SoCal region.

The exhibit is sponsored by the California Community foundation which aims to strengthen Los Angeles communities through philanthropy and civic engagement.

"California Migration" angel sculpture at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
"California Migration" angel sculpture at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
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A Martinez had the chance to chat with two artists whose work is featured in the exhibit, Álvaro D. Marquez and Miyo Stevens-Gandara.

Emotional Baggage

Because Marquez has struggled with mental illness, he decided to tackle the theme in his angel sculpture. Last year he was hospitalized in a psychiatric ward twice, "that was the impetus for me to tackle this very personal subject," he said,  "and to connect it to a broader structural critique of the mental health system and the lack of access to those resources."

Emotional Baggage



"The theme was very much inspired with this idea of destigmatizing questions of mental health and for me, coming from a working-class immigrant family myself and being a man of color, there's a lot of shame to this idea of needing help and being weak. 



So, the piece was directly speaking to that. To try to create a piece of work that could connect with people emotionally and get across this idea that there's really nothing wrong with you personally if you have a mental illness, and there's nothing wrong with getting help."

Artist Alvaro Marquez stands next to his angel, "Emotional Baggage" at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
Artist Alvaro Marquez stands next to his angel, "Emotional Baggage" at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
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California Migration

Stevens-Gandara's angel sculpture takes a look at immigration in the city of Los Angeles and how it's an important part of our legacy. "I'm trying to communicate that migration is natural," said Stevens-Gandara, "and a normal occurrence that is necessary."

California Migration



"I wanted to do something to address, some of the feelings I had about migration and the fact that we have this climate nowadays that is very critical of immigrants. 



One side of my angel has my family's migration story. My great great grandfather stowed away on a boat to come to the United states and on the opposite side of that there's a desert migration and it's the story of a family migrating from Mexico to the United States through the desert."

Artist Miyo Stevens-Gandara stands next to her angel, "California Migration", at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
Artist Miyo Stevens-Gandara stands next to her angel, "California Migration", at the "We are Los Angeles" exhibit at Grand Park.
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The last day to see "We are Los Angeles" in Grand Park is Thursday. For more information, click here.

To hear the full segment click the blue play button above.