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Post-gubernatorial debate analysis, LAPD chief finalists, where to grab an NY slice in LA

(Left to right, top to bottom) 2018 gubernatorial candidates Travis Allen, John Chiang, John Cox, Delaine Eastin, Gavin Newsom, Antonio Villaraigosa.
(Left to right, top to bottom) 2018 gubernatorial candidates Travis Allen, John Chiang, John Cox, Delaine Eastin, Gavin Newsom, Antonio Villaraigosa.
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The biggest moments from Tuesday night's gubernatorial debate analyzed, the three LAPD chief finalists, top picks for a New York pizza slice in LA.
The biggest moments from Tuesday night's gubernatorial debate analyzed, the three LAPD chief finalists, top picks for a New York pizza slice in LA.

The biggest moments from Tuesday night's gubernatorial debate analyzed, the three LAPD chief finalists, top picks for a New York pizza slice in LA.

California will require solar panels on all new homes. What that means to you

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California will require solar panels on all new homes. What that means to you

With finalists for LAPD chief picked, Mayor Garcetti gets the final word

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With finalists for LAPD chief picked, Mayor Garcetti gets the final word

Rats, roaches, bedbugs, mold: Why thousands of LA's homeless shelter beds sit empty each night

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Rats, roaches, bedbugs, mold: Why thousands of LA's homeless shelter beds sit empty each night

Slights and fights: Recapping the gubernatorial debate

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Slights and fights: Recapping the gubernatorial debate

Four Democrats, two Republicans, one riveting debate.

Gubernatorial candidates sparred in San Jose Tuesday in what could be the last televised debate before the June 5th Primary. 

In case you missed it, here are a few highlights:

KQED's Scott Shafer was a panelist. He says the candidates showed a divide over several issues:



Let's start with immigration, where you had Travis Allen saying that we need to build the wall, and that he would not expand preschool to undocumented children. You had both Republicans saying they oppose DACA; you had both Allen and John Cox saying that the first thing they'd do is get rid of the sanctuary state policy. 



They disagreed completely on high-speed rail with all four Democrats basically embracing it saying they'd get it done. Both Republicans said 'the second thing I'm gonna do is kill that Jerry Brown train to nowhere.'



The one area there was bipartisan agreement was on this privacy question — a ballot measure that's likely to be before voters in November, basically giving consumers more control over the data that companies like Facebook and Google have. All six candidates embraced that. 

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Should kids skip ahead or be held back a grade just for athletic gain?

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Should kids skip ahead or be held back a grade just for athletic gain?

Traditionally, if a kid got held back a grade it was because he flunked a lot of classes. Conversely, if a student skipped a grade, it was because they were acing all their classes. Either case was not all that common.  

These days in Southern California, it seems to be a lot more common. But in both staying behind and skipping a grade is done with the specific goal involving a college athletic scholarship. This class grade maneuvering is called "reclassifying."

Sometimes students may need more time to improve their academic performance to meet the grade requirements of a school they have their sights on but in other's it has more to do with competing itself.

"A high end, high school athlete will reconfigure his academic status to either move back or up his graduation date," said ESPN's Andy Kamenetzky. "If you're a basketball player, it could be about getting to college faster so you can get to NBA that much quicker. In the case of a football player, it could be about hanging back to be more physically dominant than your grade peers." 

Uber partners with US Army, NASA, aircraft makers on flying ride-hail for LA

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Uber partners with US Army, NASA, aircraft makers on flying ride-hail for LA

When Uber announced late last year that it would introduce a flying version of its popular ride-hail service, the idea was met with widespread skepticism. 

Well, during Tuesday's Uber Elevate conference in Los Angeles, Uber announced several heavy-hitting partnerships that give credence to the idea that ride-hailing could be coming to L.A.'s skies in as little as five years. The service is expected to use small, electric aircraft that can fly four people at a time over the city.

Uber says its goal is to launch flight demonstrations in 2020 and commercial trips by 2023. Los Angeles and Dallas, Texas, will be the first cities to get the new service called uberAir.

Embraer's electric vertical takeoff and landing vehicle could be used to fly passengers in a ride-hail service in Los Angeles by 2023.
Embraer's electric vertical takeoff and landing vehicle could be used to fly passengers in a ride-hail service in Los Angeles by 2023.
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“This gargantuan effort to 'push a button, get a flight' can only be accomplished through close partnership across the public and private sectors, and that's exactly what the Elevate Summits are all about," said Jeff Holden, Uber's chief product officer.

Uber announced Tuesday that it had signed Karem Aircraft to develop an eVTOL, or electric vertical takeoff and landing vehicle. Karem Aircraft, which developed the Predator drone, will make a new rider-friendly adaptation called Butterfly.

Uber says EVTOLs will be quieter, safer, more affordable and more environmentally friendly than helicopters.

Two eVTOL designs were also revealed, including the first eVTOL from Uber partner Embraer. The 50-year-old aircraft maker developed the vehicle with extensive input from potential urban air travelers about their desired experience, the company said.

Pipistrel, based in Slovenia, is one of several aircraft makers that has partnered with Uber on a flying ride-hail service. The new Pipistrel concept unveiled during the Uber Elevate conference in L.A. can carry between 2 and 6 passengers and co go longer distances at higher speeds than previous models.
Pipistrel, based in Slovenia, is one of several aircraft makers that has partnered with Uber on a flying ride-hail service. The new Pipistrel concept unveiled during the Uber Elevate conference in L.A. can carry between 2 and 6 passengers and co go longer distances at higher speeds than previous models.
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The other concept revealed Tuesday was from the Slovenian aircraft maker Pipistrel. The concept could carry between two and six passengers and could go longer distances at higher speeds than previous models, with lower operating costs. Pipistrel won the 2011 NASA Green Flight Challenge with its electric G4 concept, which could carry up to four passengers as far as 100 miles at an average speed of 108 miles per hour.

NASA itself announced Tuesday that it has signed a Space Act Agreement with Uber "to explore concepts and technologies for urban air mobility (UAM)." Under the agreement, Uber plans to share its requirements for UAMs based on future operational concepts for what it's calling the world’s first urban aviation rideshare network.

For its part, NASA will assess the impacts of integrating UAM operations in an urban environment. It's NASA’s first agreement specifically focused on modeling and simulating UAM operations.

Last year, Uber signed a Space Act Agreement with NASA focused on the development of new Unmanned Traffic Management concepts for Unmanned Aerial Systems. 

NASA said it's "considering opportunities with a wide range of industry partners to conduct studies, research or joint flight tests to explore UAM concepts and technologies. These activities will generate the data necessary to support the creation of industry standards, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) rules and procedures, and other regulations."

Uber also announced it's partnering with the U.S. Army Research Development and Engineering Command to develop new rotor technology for uberAir that is significantly quieter than vehicles powered with more traditional rotors. Uber and the Army's research lab will spend a combined $1 million.

Here are the details of how uberAir might play out in Los Angeles, according to Uber Elevate CEO Eric Allison:

NASA's role in getting uberAir off the ground



This is another Space Act Agreement that we’ve signed with them. And the focus of this one is specifically urban air mobility, whereas the previous one was more generally looking at traffic management … How would a system like this really work and integrate into an existing air control environment. NASA is bringing their simulation capabilities and their knowledge of air space management to better think about safety and the effects on existing air traffic control systems in some specific areas.

UberAir service will have pilots



We’re actually going to start piloted, so all of our vehicles will have pilots in them when we launch, both our demonstration flights in 2020 as well as our actual commercial service that we have announced we’ll be launching in 2023.

Stackable "sky lanes"



Our director of air space operations is a 20-year NASA veteran who was leading a lot of the air space work they were doing at one of their research centers. He’s looking at different concepts of these different aerial lanes -- dynamically allocated spaces in the sky that can handle pretty high through-put of vehicles and the system will take care of the conflicts. It will be dynamically routed and automated for vehicles on our network.



The air space is pretty big, so there’s a bunch of different concepts that we’ve looked at. Clearly, we want to take advantage of the 3D space of the air. That’s one of the main advantages of this mode of transportation is that you’re not limited by the built infrastructure on the ground that is really the source of most congestion, so we have different concepts along those lines that we’re looking at.



Pipistrel, based in Slovenia, is one of several aircraft makers that has partnered with Uber on a flying ride-hail service. The new Pipistrel concept unveiled during the Uber Elevate conference in L.A. can carry between 2 and 6 passengers and co go longer distances at higher speeds than previous models.

UberAir will fly above buildings



Probably 1,500 to 2,000 feet. Somewhere in that range. That’s kind of the typical height of a light helicopter today. It would be way above any built up infrastructure. Height for these electric airplanes, you won’t hear them either. If you’re on the ground, they’ll be essentially silent.

Quiet is necessary for community acceptance of a flying ride-hail



We think that’s a major, major requirement that we are putting onto our vehicle partners. We have to hit these noise targets. One of the blockers of being able to scale this is community acceptance, so we have to take that really seriously from the very beginning.



We’re still doing some foundational work on how quiet they need to be. We’ve laid specific targets out for our vehicle partners. We haven’t released those publicly at this point. From the white paper we put out last year, the goal is to have these be quiet enough that they essentially are not much more noticeable outside the urban background noise that exits. We’re doing surveys of background noise-scapes in different urban areas to build up our understanding of that so we can better tune the requirements we’re giving our vehicle partners.

Trip times



The vehicles themselves will cruise once they take off and get up and become wing born. They’ll cruise at something like 150 mph is a target we’ve set for that. But the overall trip time is going to be a function of other things. We’re doing a lot of modeling. What is the first and last mile -- that initial distance you have to get to the sky port to get to the vehicle and then where the sky port is relative to your final destination.

Sky ports will be the hubs for takeoff and landing



We’re actually modeling all of this out to be able to site the sky ports to minimize that so our riders have a magical experience end to end so you can push a button and significantly reduce the travel time for these highly congested areas.



We haven’t set any specific numbers yet, but what we’re doing for sky port siting and location is deep data analysis to understand the tradeoffs. And we’re also developing partnerships with infrastructure folks. 



We’re looking at concepts both on top of buildings and on the ground, so we’ve done a bunch of different studies on this and we think the right answer will be a heterogeneous network. Some things will be on the ground and other things will be on the tops of buildings. There’s a lot of valuable unused real estate on top of buildings that we think could be put to pretty good use in this regard.

Vehicles will be all-electric vertical takeoff and landing 



What we’ve targeted for operation on our network is four passenger seats and a pilot, so five seats total. And some of the partners are designing variants for other potential uses. 



What we rolled out today is something we’re calling our ECRM 3, which is ... a fully battery-propelled airplane. 

Is Los Angeles ready



I think that the city’s pretty supportive of what we’re doing and we’re engaging with them pretty heavily with our local policy team. In fact, Mayor Garcetti gave us an opening statement that we showed at the start of the summit.

The greatest challenges



The greatest challenge is we’re trying to build an eco system. I think that one of the reasons we’re putting on this summit is to continue to build that eco system and to push people forward to be excited about this and to want to be part of this eco system, because we strongly believe that no one can do this alone. We’re trying to build a new system of transportation, so it’s going to require a lot of people investing in different spaces simultaneously altogether to make this happen. 

JetBlue is delivering pizza from NYC to LA. Our native New Yorker weighs in

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JetBlue is delivering pizza from NYC to LA. Our native New Yorker weighs in

Starting Wednesday through Friday, the airline JetBlue is shipping genuine, New York pizzas from the famous Patsy's pizzeria to Los Angeles. And all for about $15.

Really. 

To weigh in on whether this was even necessary in a culinary capital like L.A., we brought in our resident New Yorker: Take Two producer, Julia Paskin.

You're a New Yorker born and raised, but you've spent over a decade now in L.A. I'm sure you get homesick sometimes. It seems like this promotion is perfect for someone you. Would you want some Patsy's?



I had a very bi-coastal reaction to this. The New Yorker in me was like, 'What, are you kiddin' me? L.A. is so freakin' fancy, they need to fly their pizza in on a jet?'



The Angeleno in me was like, 'Can you think of the environmental impact of ordering pizza from across the country?' Either way, my reaction was like, 'Why is this a thing?'

Since you're so passionate about pizza, where can I get a good slice of New York style pizza here in L.A.?

  • Joe Peeps in Valley Village. Their pizza tastes like the real thing and has the feel of a New York City pizzeria. I could easily see myself as a kid getting a slice there after school.
  • If you love a cheesy pizza, Echo Park's Pizza Buona is really satisfying, just like a hearty New York slice.
  • If you really want a New York classic brought to the west coast, without paying JetBlue for it, there's the legendary of Joe's Pizza. It's the pizza I grew up eating in Greenwich Village, which has many locations out here.

Special thanks to Village Maria Pizza in Staten Island for playing along with our pizza delivery order to L.A.! Click the blue player above to listen to the call.