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Elon Musk builds political support, local geologist chosen for NASA astronaut corps, guidebook welcomes refugees to SoCal

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Elon Musk builds local political support for his start-ups, geologist Jessica Watkins talks about becoming an astronaut, guidebook helps refugees navigate LA area.
Elon Musk builds local political support for his start-ups, geologist Jessica Watkins talks about becoming an astronaut, guidebook helps refugees navigate LA area.

Elon Musk builds local political support for his start-ups, geologist Jessica Watkins talks about becoming an astronaut, guidebook helps refugees navigate LA area.  

From toilet to tap: Would you drink recycled wastewater?

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From toilet to tap: Would you drink recycled wastewater?

Imagine you're outside one afternoon, and you're running to make an appointment. It's hot. You're thirsty.

Suddenly you see a booth offering free water. The person at the booth hands you a chilled bottle. But before you take a sip they tell you the water in your hands is recycled wastewater — toilet water, if you will.

Would you still drink it? 

Well, you might just find yourself facing that quandary today. 

That's because the Orange County Water District has teamed up with the OC Sanitation District to find an answer to a pressing problem in California: Is there a way to sustainably source our water?

Starting today, they'll be setting up "lemonade stands" where the water can be sampled. 

For more, Take Two spoke to Mehul Patel, director of water production for the OC Water District. 

In layman's terms, how does this water go from its original source all the way to the bottle?



The basic point is that anything that leaves your house is waste. Wastewater ends up at a big, central wastewater treatment plant. 



The water goes through an extensive level of treatment, which we call secondary treatment, to the point where that water's suitable for ocean discharge. 



That water goes to an advanced level of treatment at the Orange County Water District where the water is of ultra-pure quality, where it goes beyond drinking water quality. That water can then be introduced or replenished into the local groundwater aquifer, which is the main source of drinking water in North and Central Orange County. 



The water bottle comes from our facility. Part of the effort to bottle the water is one that we've spent a lot of time working through the California legislature even to allow that to occur. We feel that drinking it is the best way to show that the technology is there, it's been done, and it's another way to find alternative-sourced water in a drought-stricken region. 

How new is this technology?



The heart of it's been around since the mid-70s, early 80s. But using this technology for municipal water treatment is relatively new. Our project's probably one of the first to use it on a large scale. 

What was the motivation for developing it? 



We maintain a large underground aquifer here in Orange County that's the main drinking water source for almost two-and-a-half-million people. The sources that have traditionally replenished the groundwater here have been affected by the drought. 



We knew that — to keep up with demand in the area — we needed to come up with an alternative source of water. 



We knew that this highly treated wastewater was being discharged through the ocean millions of gallons a day and that there was the potential that that water could be treated to drinking water standards and beyond and used as an additional source. 



We did years and years of research and testing and found that not only could we treat this water, but we could treat it economically to the point where it's cost-competitive with the other sources of water that are used to replenish the aquifer. Once we knew that, we decided to build the project.

We asked a lot of people in the newsroom at KPCC to try this water. Not a single one said yes. Why is it so hard for people to get into the idea of drinking wastewater? Is it all in our heads?



Yeah, a lot of it is in our heads. What most people don't realize is that treated wastewater of different qualities has always been part of the water supply. All water has been recycled at one point or another. Any water is the same water. It's just the level of treatment that determines.



We don't want the water to be judged by its source, but by where it is today. That's the bias we have to overcome. 

(A Martinez tries the water) 

It tastes like normal water. I gotta admit — I was dreading this but I was going to do it for the show. But it tastes like normal water. 



Yeah, and that's the number one comment we get. And it should. It's water. All water is water as long as you do the right treatment like we have. It shouldn't taste any different. This water is just as good if not better than any other source of water you're drinking now. 

Press the blue play button above to hear the full interview. 
Answers have been edited for brevity and clarity. 

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3 ways to get your LA sidewalk repair done faster

Meet Jessica Watkins: The geologist bound for Mars

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Meet Jessica Watkins: The geologist bound for Mars

You might call it the travel opportunity of a lifetime: the chance to be a NASA astronaut and go deeper into space than any human has before.

Roughly 18,300 people jumped at the opportunity to reach for the stars, the most people ever to apply. But NASA only picked twelve and not surprisingly, they were all the cream of the crop. 

2017 NASA Astronaut Candidates. Photo Date: June 6, 2017. Location: Ellington Field - Hangar 276, Tarmac.
2017 NASA Astronaut Candidates. Photo Date: June 6, 2017. Location: Ellington Field - Hangar 276, Tarmac.
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NASA Astronaut Candidate, Jessica Watkins.
NASA Astronaut Candidate, Jessica Watkins.
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Take Two's A Martinez spoke with one of the newest candidates for NASA's corps of astronauts. Geologist, Jessica Watkins is a postdoctoral fellow at CalTech.

​​"Certainly, as we think about the long-term goal of expanding our human presence in the solar system, including Mars, it's very exciting to be a part of it."

Interview Highlights 

From the Mars rover to roving Mars



I work mostly on the Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity rover. There's the operations side where I'm helping a large, international team of scientists and engineers that come together on a daily basis to help decide where we want the rover to go based on the images that come down. And then, decide what we want to do there as well. What do we want to analyze and how do we want to analyze it? Once the scientists have decided that, then we turn it over to the engineers, who then turn that into commands to send up to the rover to execute the next day. 

Rocks on Mars aren't too different from those on Earth



Being a geologist and having most of my training be in terrestrial geology, we are actually able to translate those main, fundamental geologic principles to the surface of Mars. We can use images to get a sense of where the surface is currently. And then, we kind of back out, put together the story of how those rocks must have gotten to that point, and what must of happened in their history for the surface to look the way it does now. 



The cool part is, they're not that different. Or in a lot of ways, they're pretty similar. That been part of the reason why I've been so passionate about Mars, is that is has so many similarities. And I think because of that, we can learn a lot about Earth as we study Mars. 

Training to be an NASA astronaut 



I head down to Houston in August and we'll start our two year training period with the other 11 classmates that have been selected with me. We're going to be doing a lot of different things. Looking at the systems at the International Space Station, robotics, flight training, learning the Russian language. And I'm really excited to have such a diverse set of things that we're learning, but also, to learn from each other. The team of people that they've chosen are all amazing people and all have their own individual expertise. And I'm excited to learn from their individual expertise throughout that process. 



There's a whole group of people who work on, what do we need in order to go to space? Where are our muscle groups... that need to be stronger than others, in particular as we start thinking about long-duration space travel. There's definitely a lot that we can learn from astronauts that have come back from space and how their bodies have responded that gives us some indication of what we can do to prepare. 

Staying healthy in zero gravity



There's a treadmill that you strap yourself into. There's a bike but it doesn't actually have a seat because there's no need to sit down in space. So there are these pieces of exercise equipment that mimic those on Earth that provide some of that weight lifting and some of that resistance that we need to maintain our health. 

Diversity in the corps of astronauts 



I think diversity is important for a couple of reasons. First, I think it's important that everyone bring their own set of experiences and their own set of perspectives, particularly as you approach a problem. If people approach a problem in different ways, then you have a higher chance of being successful at solving that problem. So, I think that's one important piece of diversity.



The other piece is more the exposure side of it. I think it's important for young people and young girls to be able to see somebody who looks like them, doing the things that they aspire to do and do cool things like go into space. 



I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to have lots of mentors which actually was really important in my development in getting me to this point. I certainly looked up to Dr. Mae Jemison who was the first African-American female in space. And she kind of provided that exposure... where she was somebody that I could look up to and see that achieving the impossible was actually in the realm of possibility. 

Quotes edited to clarity. 

Want to know more about NASA's newest class of astronauts? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yu1uOB2-_E

To hear the full interview with Jessica Watkins, click on the media player above. 

Sports Roundup: The future of the Lakers and why one NFL legend is donating his brain to science

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Sports Roundup: The future of the Lakers and why one NFL legend is donating his brain to science

Tomorrow NBA teams around the country will pick the players that might spell success for their team - the 2017 NBA draft.

The Los Angeles Lakers have the second pick, and many expect that they will pick UCLA guard Lonzo Ball, but is that their best option? If you need a refresher on who Lonzo Ball is, check this out. 

And NFL Hall of Famer

was one of the most ferocious defensive players of all time.

Fast, powerful and fearless.  But since his retirement, he's experienced a lot of problems consistent with many former pros ... headaches, forgetfulness and feelings of disorientation.

Now he's announced he'll donating his brain for study when he dies.

We'll talk about it and a lot more. To hear the entire segment, click on the blue arrow above. 

Long Beach takes steps to let street musicians play

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Long Beach takes steps to let street musicians play

The Long Beach City Council last night approved a plan to study a formal system regulating street musicians.

Performing on the street is not illegal, but Shea Newkirk with the Long Beach Music Council, which lobbied for this measure, says there is confusion without any system in place.

"Some musicians said police told them they needed a permit to perform, which isn't true right now," he says, "and I think there's a disconnect between organizations on what the regulations really are and how to enforce them."

He points to Santa Monica's regulations as a model. If you want to perform in public places like the Third Street Promenade or the Santa Monica Pier, you must apply for a $37 permit from the city.

Newkirk also hopes that Long Beach carves out certain areas of the city where performing is encouraged.

"I think street musicians improve the quality of life for residents, and be an attractor for tourists," he says.

Listen to the full interview by clicking the audio player above.

New 'Guidebook' helps refugees resettle in SoCal

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New 'Guidebook' helps refugees resettle in SoCal

It looks like a standard spiral-bound notebook. It's 118 pages long, thick cardstock, colorful pages and a TON of illustrations. But it's targeting a very specific audience: refugees coming to Southern California.

Monica Curca is one of the brains behind "The Refugees Welcome Guidebook: The Greater Los Angeles Area." Driven by her own experience, she helped come up with the idea for the project:



"We came to the United States from Romania as refugees in 1982 and my parents were political activists. They came to America and we resettled in Garden Grove. Garden Grove has been a historically very welcoming city. One neighbor brought a paper with different addresses and resources on it: where the post office was, where the social security office was, some congregations, thrift stores ... and for my parents, they found that to be the most precious gift because now they had something to be able to support them in integration. 



And so when we were thinking about the refugee guidebook I was always thinking back to this. What would it be to not just say, 'we welcome you, refugees' but actually have a physical document that shows refugees what life is like in Southern California."

We caught up with her yesterday in Glendale, outside a "World Refugee Day" event where she was showing off the book.

To pull it together, Monica said she worked with Rashad Al-Dabbagh, director of the Arab American Civic Council. 



"We really didn't know exactly what we were doing. We just did it step by step so we partnered with World Relief and other resettlement agencies and they really helped us with some sections. But we put this out on social media and that kind of got us going and so we held data parties."

The "data parties" hosted anywhere from five to 30 people. As a group, they'd cobble together all kinds of information.

Essentially, they crowdsourced it. 



"We basically asked the participants to just use Google docs and put down different addresses and resources for about 60 different categories like hospitals and doctors and parks and hiking areas."

That information, written out in English and Arabic, is categorized into three major sections:



"The first one is basic services. We really leaned into our refugee resettlement agencies like World Relief and they really helped us with what refugees need. 



The next section was Eat, Shop, Play. It has restaurants and Halal markets and then we also increased it and did cheaper affordable or free fun things for families.




The last section is resilient communities and for me, creating communities that are resilient, that can support each other, that can withstand crises is my life's passion and work and so the resilient community section gives a lot of information for refugees that are in a way things that are stigmatized in Arab or Muslim culture or even within refugee communities like domestic violence and PTSD and mental health, depression ... even suicide prevention. These kind of more difficult topics, we present them and we also offer them resources that they can go get support and help."

The last section is particularly close to Monica's heart. She wrote a lot of it based on personal experience:



"I was sitting and writing this and I was just starting to cry and to tear up because I realized how much we have to deconstruct and leave behind of our culture to be successful in America and that's the pain and the loss that many refugees face every day. It's not necessarily negative or positive, it's very different though."

For now, "The Refugees Welcome Guidebook" is only available in hardcopy, but a web and app version will be released soon. Further down the line, it's Monica's goal to translate the book into other languages and use it as a blueprint for other communities.

 The official launch party of the book is tonight in Anaheim. For more information, click here.

To listen to the full segment, click the blue play button above.