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What happens to the Mueller investigation if Rod Rosenstein leaves the DoJ?

WASHINGTON, DC - SEPTEMBER 04:  Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein listens as Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh's appears for his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill September 4, 2018 in Washington, DC. Kavanaugh was nominated by President Donald Trump to fill the vacancy on the court left by retiring Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy.  (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein listens as Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh's appears for his confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee in the Hart Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill September 4, 2018 in Washington, DC. Kavanaugh was nominated by President Donald Trump to fill the vacancy on the court left by retiring Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy.
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Rod Rosenstein has reportedly resigned as Deputy Attorney General. We examine the impact of his resignation and the potential effect it may have on the Muller investigation. We also discuss the latest developments in Kavanaugh's sexual assault allegations; analyze a new Yale-MIT study; and more.
Rod Rosenstein has reportedly resigned as Deputy Attorney General. We examine the impact of his resignation and the potential effect it may have on the Muller investigation. We also discuss the latest developments in Kavanaugh's sexual assault allegations; analyze a new Yale-MIT study; and more.

Rod Rosenstein has reportedly resigned as Deputy Attorney General. We examine the impact of his resignation and the potential effect it may have on the Muller investigation. We also discuss the latest developments in Kavanaugh's sexual assault allegations; analyze a new Yale-MIT study; and more.

What happens to the Mueller investigation if Rod Rosenstein leaves the DoJ?

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What happens to the Mueller investigation if Rod Rosenstein leaves the DoJ?

The White House says President Donald Trump and his embattled Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein spoke on Monday and will meet Thursday at the White House amid uncertainty about Rosenstein's fate.

Rosenstein oversees special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia election meddling and has been the probe's chief public defender.

The development comes just days after reports that in the days after the firing of FBI Director James Comey, Rosenstein had raised the idea of secretly recording President Donald Trump and of invoking the 25th Amendment to have the Cabinet remove the president from office.

So what’s going to happen if Rosenstein leaves his post? We’ll discuss.

With files from the Associated Press

Guests:

Jeff Mordock, investigative and government reporter for The Washington Times, who’s looked at the chain of succession at Justice Department if Rosenstein is out

Niels Lesniewski, senior writer at Roll Call who has a piece out today looking at the solicitor general Noel Francisco

Matt Barreto, professor of political science and Chicano/a Studies at UCLA and co-founder of the research and polling firm Latino Decisions; he tweets

Sean T. Walsh, Republican political analyst and partner at Wilson Walsh Consulting in San Francisco; he is a former adviser to California Governors Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger and a former White House staffer for Presidents Reagan and H.W. Bush   

Saikrishna Prakash, professor of law at the University of Virginia, whose scholarship focuses on separation of powers, particularly executive powers. He teaches Constitutional Law, Foreign Relations Law and Presidential Powers at the Law School

Justin Levitt, professor of law at Loyola Law School and  former deputy assistant attorney general in the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department under President Obama; he tweets

John P. Carlin, former Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Department of Justice's National Security Division from 2014 to 2016; Chief of Staff to Robert Mueller when he was Director of the FBI; partner and chairman of the law firm, Morrison & Foerster's Global Risk and Crisis Management

As second Kavanaugh accuser comes forward, we discuss where the Senate confirmation stands

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As second Kavanaugh accuser comes forward, we discuss where the Senate confirmation stands

Just as negotiators reached agreement on an extraordinary hearing for Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, a second allegation of sexual misconduct by the Supreme Court nominee put the White House and Senate Republicans on the defensive and fueled calls from Democrats to postpone further action on his confirmation.

A days-long back and forth over the timing and terms of a hearing with Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, the woman accusing him of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers, appeared to end Sunday with the announcement that they would appear separately Thursday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Hours later, however, The New Yorker magazine reported online that Senate Democrats were investigating another woman’s accusation of sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh, this time dating to the 1983-84 academic year, Kavanaugh’s first at Yale University. The New Yorker said 53-year-old Deborah Ramirez described the incident in an interview after being contacted by the magazine. Ramirez recalled that Kavanaugh exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away, the magazine reported.

In a statement provided by the White House, Kavanaugh said the event “did not happen” and that the allegation was “a smear, plain and simple.” A White House spokeswoman added in a second statement that the allegation was “designed to tear down a good man.”

Will there be a separate hearing for Ramirez and would it be any different from that of Blasey Ford? What does this mean for the confirmation?

With files from the Associated Press

Guests:

Natasha Korecki, national political correspondent at POLITICO who has been following the story; she tweets

Lara Bazelon, professor at the University of San Francisco School of Law; she was a trial attorney in the Office of the Federal Public Defender in Los Angeles for seven years; she has litigated Title IX cases

Jenna Parker, attorney in LA specializes in Title IX cases with Werksman, Jackson, Hathaway & Quinn, LLP

Yale-MIT study suggests number of undocumented immigrants may be double earlier estimates, we discuss methodology

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Yale-MIT study suggests number of undocumented immigrants may be double earlier estimates, we discuss methodology

A new study released Friday suggests that the number of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. may be double what was previously thought.

The U.S. government estimates the number of undocumented immigrants to be from 11 to 12 million. But researchers from Yale University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology reveal what was described as a “conservative” number of 16. 7 million in 2016 and an average of 22 million. The estimate is based on data from 1990 to 2016.

Researchers used a model that estimates how many undocumented immigrants flow into the country and subtracted how many flow out in order to calculate the total undocumented population. They based their study on data collected from deportations, border apprehensions, visa overstays, death rates and immigration rates.

We look into the study and discuss the methodology.

Guest:

Jonathan Feinstein, professor of economics and management at Yale School of Management, who co-authored the study "The number of undocumented immigrants in the United States: Estimates based on demographic modeling with data from 1990 to 2016"