AirTalk dives into the Department of Justice’s new lawsuit against California, targeting three laws intended to limit federal immigration enforcement. We also walk you through the rise and fall of the Thomas Guide, which helped Angelenos get around long before smartphones; where is the line between poverty and child abuse?; and more.
DoJ v. CA over the state’s sanctuary policies. Who’ll win?
The Justice Department is suing CA over three new laws designed to limit federal immigration enforcement.
The federal government claims the laws make it more dangerous for ICE agents to do their jobs and more dangerous for CA residents exposed to criminals in the country illegally.
What are the arguments on both sides, and who would likely prevail?
Guests:
Josh Blackman, an associate professor of law at the South Texas College of Law who specializes in constitutional law; he tweets
Bill Hing, immigration law expert; professor of law and director of the immigration and deportation defense clinic at the University of San Francisco School of Law
UCSF vaping study challenges the presumed safety of e-cigarettes
A new study out from the University of California-San Francisco says it’s the first to show evidence that teens who use electronic cigarettes are exposed to cancer-causing chemicals when they vape.
Researchers tested urine and saliva samples from 67 teenagers, the average age of whom was about 16, each of whom had vaped one or more times in the last month and at least 10 times in their life. They then compared those to samples from 16 teens who vape and smoke combustible cigarettes, and 20 teens who don’t vape or smoke traditional cigarettes.
Results showed the participants who vape and smoke cigarettes had the highest levels of cancer-causing chemicals, which likely won’t come as a surprise, but what the study authors say is notable is how much higher the levels of these chemicals were in the teens who only vape compared to those who don’t vape or smoke. The research team also said that among those participants who vape only, those who smoke fruit-flavored e-liquid produced “significantly higher levels of the metabolites of acrylonitrile,” which is a highly poisonous compound found in plastics and adhesives according to the National Center for Biotechnology Information.
Larry Mantle will wade into the specifics of the study’s methodology from its lead author and hear reaction from a vaping industry advocate who says he's concerned that the headlines generated by studies like this one are perpetuating the idea among Americans that vaping is almost as dangerous as smoking combustible cigarettes.
Guests:
Mark Rubinstein, lead author of the study “Adolescent Exposure to Toxic Volatile Organic Chemicals From E-Cigarettes”; he is an adolescent medicine researcher and physician, and a professor of pediatrics at the University of California-San Francisco
Gregory Conley, founder and president of the American Vaping Association, a nonprofit group that advocates for sensible regulation of vapor products
Sorry to be macabre, but if you had a choice, how would you like to die?
Tower Records founder Russ Solomon passed away on Sunday while watching the Oscars with a drink in his hand.
He was 92.
"Ironically, he was giving his opinion of what someone was wearing that he thought was ugly, then asked (his wife) Patti to refill his whiskey," Michael Solomon, his son and former chief executive of Tower, told the Sacramento Bee.
When Patti returned with his refill, he had passed away from an apparent heart attack.
The SacBee called it the “perfect coda” for a risk-taking entrepreneur who built an empire selling music to generations of music lovers.
His death got us thinking about the big end. How would you like to die, if you have the choice? Call us at 866-893-5722 and let us know.
The Joshua Tree family case: Where do we draw the line between poverty and child abuse?
On Tuesday, the parents of three children who had all been living in a plywood and tin shelter near Joshua Tree, were released from jail.
As reported by the New York Times, they were greeted by supporters with signs such as “Being Homeless is not a crime” and “Guilty of Being Poor.” The parents are facing three felony counts of child abuse and their kids are in county custody, but the question for both social workers and the law is whether their living situation is child abuse.
There was no running water or electricity and there was human waste throughout the property. But the family and surrounding community has reportedly said the family was trying its best. The father said he didn’t know many of the social services that were available to their family, but he also said he did not believe in government help.
So what services were available to this family and are they responsible for not taking advantage of them? How will Children and Family Services assess the situation? And can these parents be criminally charged with child abuse?
Guests:
Caroline Danielson, an expert on social safety net programs in California, and a senior fellow at the nonprofit think tank Public Policy Institute of California
Peggy Stewart, an expert in child abuse; adjunct professor of social work at USC and a licensed clinical social worker at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles
Matthew Ruff, criminal defense attorney in L.A. County who has handled many child abuse and neglect cases over 23 years
Thomas Guide maps: The rise and fall of Los Angeles' directional holy grail
Most drivers in the sprawling metropolis of Los Angeles rely on Google Maps, Waze or their in-car GPS system to navigate the city, but not that long ago, drivers relied on a different type of North Star — one that lived in almost every backseat or glove compartment: the Thomas Guide.
So what happened to the Thomas Brothers and the guide company that bears their name? And what was the guide’s significance to Los Angeles? Let's take a look.
The Thomas Brothers: Early beginnings
Thomas Bros. Maps was established in Oakland in 1915 by cartographer George Coupland Thomas and his two brothers. What began as a company that made wall maps expanded into block, community and tourist maps.
In 1940, the company moved to Los Angeles at 257 South Spring in Downtown L.A., where it grew its inventory. Glen Creason, the map librarian at the downtown's Central Library who takes care of a collection of nearly 250 Thomas Guides, said they initially made fold-up maps that could fit into a '40s men's suit pocket. In 1945 they started the book format that we still recognize today, sized to fit inside a glove compartment.
Creason said there were other mapmakers in Los Angeles, most notably the Automobile Club of Southern California and Gillespie's Guide.
There were also smaller companies that sometimes tried to copy Thomas Bros. Maps' cartography. So Thomas Guides put in fake streets or towns, so they could catch copycats.
"There were a lot of counterfeit operations out there... making smaller maps using our data," said Todd Nathanson, grandson of Warren Wilson, former president and CEO of Thomas Bros. Maps. "And we would put fake streets of people's [employees] kids' names...pets' names...in little cul-de-sacs, and that was one way we would be able to keep the copyright."
In 1955, George Coupland Thomas died with no heirs, leaving the company to his widow. That’s when the company was bought by its attorney, Warren Wilson, and his business partner.
Thomas Bros. Maps under Warren Wilson
The map company continued to grow in the 40 years under Wilson. In the 1970’s, he bought out the whole company and moved it to Irvine. Even as Thomas Bros. grew to dominate the map market on the West Coast, many Angelenos didn’t realize that Thomas Bros. was a fairly small company with less than 250 employees.
In the 1990s, the company made a computer database of its maps with a system for cartographers to update and edit the information, à la Wikipedia. It also started selling map data to utilities and cities in California
Attempted expansion and the rise of digital
Even though Thomas Bros. Maps made strides in the digital landscape, and even sold its guides via CDs, the rise of digital map sites changed the game for physical mapmakers. At the same time, in the 90s, the Thomas company made an unsuccessful foray into the east coast.
According to Nathanson, the attempted entry into the beltway was costly and ultimately the company didn’t have the brand name or resources to compete with already established map companies.
Meanwhile, in-dash car navigation systems and websites like MapQuest became more popular. A larger map and Atlas maker called Rand McNally had been trying to buy Thomas Bros. Maps and Nathanson said his grandfather could see the writing on the wall.
In 1999, Wilson sold the company to Rand McNally.
Rand McNally
Nathanson, who had worked in various departments at the Thomas company while in college, and then worked in sales after graduating, stayed on for four more years after the company was sold.
He said it has since been bought and sold by venture capitalists. Some versions of the Thomas Guide can still be bought, but for the most part, they’ve faded from prominence.
(Though not for everyone!)
I don't know any movies, but I still have my Thomas Guide
— Brian Wharton (@dafoink)
I don't know any movies, but I still have my Thomas Guide pic.twitter.com/21EaQHOEpE
— Brian Wharton (@dafoink) March 7, 2018
Why did Thomas Guides mean so much to Angelenos?
“I think they [Thomas Guides] are way more important here than they are in most cities,” Creason said.
Los Angeles is bigger than most cities, he said. When automobiles went into mass production, it was the Automobile Club of Southern California, not the government, that put up the first street signs, but there was still a comprehensive map needed to make the city navigable. That's where Thomas Guides came in.
“Just a regular guy could drive up to the Angeles National Forest or to Venice,” Creason said. “Street guides opened the city up to the common man.”
Now, that you know the story, what are some of your favorite Thomas Guide memories? Here's just a few we heard from our listeners:
I moved to L.A. in 1994 and loved my Thomas Guide, which helped me really learn L.A. Despite using online maps now, I still have my VERY well-worn Thomas Guide. When my car was broken into a few years ago, the only things that weren't taken were my Thomas Guide and my umbrella!
— Holly Strother (@Lotsa_Moxie)
I moved to LA in 1994 and loved my Thomas Guide, which helped me really learn LA. Despite using online maps now, I still have my VERY well-worn Thomas Guide. When my car was broken into a few years ago, the only things that weren't taken were my Thomas Guide and my umbrella!
— Holly Strother (@Lotsa_Moxie) March 7, 2018
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: I love, love the Thomas Guide - learned LA/OC with it. Dad played a game with me at the kitchen table. How to get from pt A to pt B, go! Such fun memories. I love maps to this day & know the city streets from that game. Still have the Guide.
— Elizabeth Aguilera (@1eaguilera)
On @AirTalk @LarryMantle: I love, love the Thomas Guide - learned LA/OC with it. Dad played a game with me at the kitchen table. How to get from pt A to pt B, go! Such fun memories. I love maps to this day & know the city streets from that game. Still have the Guide.
— Elizabeth Aguilera (@1eaguilera) March 7, 2018
I was new to LA in 1987, around that time I worked driving for a payphone company! The Thomas Guide was indispensable to my route planning, as I traveled from Santa Ana to Ojai retrieving the coins and fixing phones. Thomas Guides and Pyphones - Both anachronisms today!
— Keith McWilliams (@kmckey)
