AirTalk debates a city proposal that would alert businesses when sidewalk sellers seek permits to sell outside their door. We also dive into the the legal battle between a church using cannabis for worship and the city that says it’s an illegal dispensary; should transitional kindergarten be available to all 4-year-olds in California?; and more.
New proposal wants to give businesses a chance to appeal but not prohibit sidewalks vendors
In the effort to legalize and regulate street vending, a new proposal was announced Monday at City Hall that wants the city to alert businesses when sidewalk sellers seek permits to sell outside their doors.
Under a revised proposal for new regulations, property owners would not be able to prohibit vending on adjacent sidewalks, but they would get a chance to appeal. Store owners argue that sidewalk vendors block walkways and that weakens their businesses. Meanwhile, vendor supporters find it unfair to give stores that kind of veto power over other entrepreneurs.
Guests:
Leslie Berestein Rojas, KPCC’s Immigration and Emerging Communities Reporter who is at the City Council meeting
Jeff Zarrinnam, board member and immediate past president of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce
Katie McKeon, attorney at the public interest law firm, Public Counsel, a member of The Los Angeles Street Vendor Campaign that seeks to legalize food vending in L.A.
Los Angeles, other California cities have a rentable motorized scooter problem
In case you haven’t heard, the latest public nuisance facing the city San Francisco takes the form of undocked motorized scooters — and it's affecting other California cities too. The issue: the scooters aren’t regulated yet, and users aren’t exactly following the rules.
Over the past few months, electric scooters that users can rent through apps have started popping up and taking off in cities across the country. The idea: the scooters are an affordable and sometimes even faster alternative to driving, especially during rush hour. After paying $1 to unlock the scooter, users pay a 15 cents per minute and can travel about 15 miles an hour.
San Francisco’s city attorney sent
San Francisco issues cease and desist letter for "unlawful" electric scooters in the city. https://t.co/1Nvwz5nIYz pic.twitter.com/K1fHwRqvAk
— NBC Bay Area (@nbcbayarea) April 16, 2018
to three companies that rent and own the electric scooters, including Venice-based company Bird. The letter instructs the companies and their users to stop unlawful conduct like riding on sidewalks and leaving the scooters on pedestrian pathways instead of parking them appropriately.
Yesterday, somewhere not far from the Haight. #ScootersBehavingBadly @walksf pic.twitter.com/toshJAdgoO
— Fredo Álvarez (@itsfredoalvarez) April 13, 2018
San Francisco supervisors voted Tuesday to require the companies to get city permits before they can legally operate, the Associated Press reports. City Attorney Dennis Herrera says his office has received numerous complaints against LimeBike, Bird and Spin.
The e-scooters are also popular in Southern California cities like Santa Monica. “Birds” (as Bird calls their scooters) started popping up around Santa Monica last September, leading the city to file a criminal complaint against the company in December for operating without a business license after it “repeatedly refused to comply with City citations.”
Bird settled with Santa Monica in early February, agreeing to pay more than $300,000 in fines and obtaining the appropriate business licenses needed to operate — but it looks like their troubles are far from over, with safety issues being raised by both cities and their residents.
“We respect the city wanting to get this right and we’re working with them to fix the problems that they’ve cited in the letter,” Bird’s chief legal officer and head of government relations told AirTalk. “So we’re currently looking at, ‘What can we do to help user education?’”
We asked AirTalk listeners about their experiences with the increasingly popular electric scooters:
Susan in Santa Monica was injured by an electric scooter in a crash earlier this year. She didn’t know who to call to make a complaint.
I was hit by a scooter rider in front of the Santa Monica co-op about three months ago right on the sidewalk and he flattened me. I still have the treadmarks on the toe of my boot and it’s a real hazard just like with cyclists and skateboarders, because they move fast and I don’t know what they’re doing, but they’re not looking.
Antonette in Santa Monica has mixed mobility, so she uses crutches and wheelchairs to get around. She said she’s had a lot of nearly missed crashes with people riding electric scooters.
It’s beyond a nuisance, it’s turned into a real serious public health concern for anyone who’s disabled... They don’t actually know how to ride them and control them very well, so seriously, it’s been terrifying having these scooters swerve into me or a guy jump off right before hitting me. It’s really really frightening.
Christine in Santa Monica owns retail property in the city and her business tenants are having issues with Bird dropping their rental scooters off in their parking lot every morning.
My tenants have called and have said that they’ve lost their parking spaces for their customers, due to these people who want to actually rent these scooters, and so I’ve had to call a towing company to have them tow these vehicles — but Bird keeps constantly re-dropping them off on our private lot without any permission.
Grace in Culver City works in downtown Santa Monica and often runs errands for the company during the day. She’s mostly worried about how riders aren’t obeying traffic laws.
Quite frequently I’ve seen the Bird riders – these are not the minors, these are the adults – going right through the signals. They’re not stopping for traffic signs and going right through major intersections where there’s lights. They’re going against traffic, and you can’t hear them, so I’ve had a number of near misses.
Chris messaged AirTalk’s Facebook page about a hotel across from the Hammer Museum that has these electric scooters.
We were walking down the block to the Museum and I saw a son and father fall off three times within a block. Clearly there’s no training on how to use and if used by hotel visitors, they aren’t aware on rules in L.A. on using them. Hotels should have required training.
Elliott in Santa Monica has a car, but he uses Bird scooters around three times a week to go to class at Santa Monica College. He said on a given day, the scooter only costs him about $3 or $4 total to rent.
They’re a great way to get around the campus and a great way to get around the city because there’s just so little parking around. And I actually haven’t seen the Bird scooters be that much of a nuisance – even if they’re in the pedestrian park lane, you just walk around. It’s not a big deal… Usually they’re left around campus or right next to campus there are a lot of Hulu parking spots for the bikes and they just leave them right next to the bike racks and you just pick them up and just head over wherever you want to go.
Ilona in Mar Vista is a fan of Bird scooters and has ridden them before, but agrees some users’ behavior create issues. Larry read her comment on the air.
I love Bird scooters. They’re fantastic, easy to use, but I’m discouraged when I see them on the sidewalk. Maybe Bird should have a user tutorial before downloading the app.
Guests:
Kevin Truong, reporter and multimedia producer for the San Francisco Business Times who has been following the story
David Estrada, chief legal officer and head of government relations at Bird, the Venice-based e-scooter company which has been served a cease and desist letter by the City Attorney of San Francisco
This story has been updated.
A higher power: The legal battle between a church using cannabis for worship and the city calling it a front for a pot store
Should an Inland Empire church that uses cannabis as part of its religion be allowed to stay open?
It’s the question at the heart of a legal battle going on between the Vault Church of Open Faith and the city of Jurupa Valley, where it’s located. Local officials have been trying to shutter the church for over a year, arguing that it is operating as an illegal pot shop in a city that prohibits any marijuana enterprise. As of Tuesday morning, the church could be found advertising on Weedmaps, a website that shows the location and menus for local medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries. For its part, Vault Church filed a complaint against the city seeking $1.2 million in damages, saying the city harassed and discriminated against it. The church says its congregants both smoke cannabis and use edibles as part of their religious sacrament, and argue the city is using municipal zoning laws to religiously discriminate against it.
The Vault Church is not alone in its mission. A number of so-called “pot churches” have appeared across California from Oakland to Los Angeles Counties in the wake of recreational marijuana use being legalized in 2016.
Guests:
Matt Pappas, attorney for The Association of Sacramental Ministries, which represents various cannabis churches; the Association filed the claim against Jurupa Valley
John Eastman, constitutional law professor at Chapman University Fowler School of Law; senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, a think tank in Upland, CA
Another California bill hopes to make transitional kindergarten available for all 4-year-olds
A legislation that would allow all 4-year-olds to attend transitional kindergarten passed the Senate Education Committee on Wednesday.
Transitional kindergarten, known as TK, is a publicly funded education program that is offered to children who turn five between Sept. 2 and Dec. 2 each year. California Senator Bill Dodd (D-Napa), who authored the bill, wants to change that and expand TK to all 4-year-old kids.
The California State PTA, a volunteer-led child advocacy association, is supporting the bill, but other groups like KinderCare, a for-profit daycare and early education provider, and the Professional Association for Childhood Education (PACE), a nonprofit association of private childcare providers, oppose Sen. Dodd’s bill. PACE argues that high student-teacher ratios in public education would make it difficult to properly teach four-year-olds. Meanwhile, Sen. Dobb says the bill would provide more opportunities for early education during critical years for childhood development.
We weigh the pros and cons: should publicly funded transitional kindergarten be expanded to all 4-year-olds in California? Call us at 866-893-5722.
Guests:
Sen. Bill Dodd (D-Napa), author of Senate Bill 837 that would allow all 4-year-olds to attend publicly funded transitional kindergarten; he tweets
Celia Sims, vice president of Government Relations at KinderCare Education, a Portland-based privately held education services firm
Earthquake country: Seismologist weighs in on what we can learn from natural disasters
Planet earth wouldn’t have nearly as much life if we didn’t have earthquakes, volcanoes and floods.
For instance, earthquakes bring up natural springs, and that’s something to be thankful for, especially in drought-burdened California. But when we can’t withstand these events, they become natural disasters. And the effects of the “big one” from the past can influence how we cope in the future.
Seismologist and Angeleno Lucy Jones is a leading expert on earthquakes, and she’s taking a deep dive into the history of natural disasters, and what they can teach us, in her new book, “The Big Ones: How Natural Disasters Have Shaped Us (and What We Can Do About Them).” The book explores questions about the effects of natural disaster as far back as Pompeii. How did the ancient Roman city’s volcanic eruption challenge religious views at the time? What did the 1862 California floods show us about the limits of human memory? And with natural disasters as recent as last year’s hurricanes in Puerto Rico and Houston, Jones looks at the impact of growing populations in high-risk areas, as well as an increase in the earth’s temperature.
So how can we be ready for the next “big one”? Larry speaks to Jones today to find out more.
EVENT:
Dr. Lucy Jones will discuss her book at The Writers Guild Theater on Thursday, April 19.. The conversation starts at 7:30pm with writer and former Los Angeles Times book critic David Ulin.
Guest:
Lucy Jones, seismologist and founder and chief scientist at the Lucy Jones Center for Science & Society, a natural disaster risk reduction research organization; she is author of the book, “The Big Ones: How Natural Disasters Have Shaped Us (and What We Can Do About Them" (Doubleday, 2018)