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Celebrating Leonard Nimoy and Spock, and comedian Felipe Esparza

John Rabe in the corner booth at Musso and Frank Grill in Hollywood
John Rabe in the corner booth at Musso and Frank Grill in Hollywood
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Leonard Nimoy’s son Adam tells us about his new film, "For the Love of Spock," which candidly digs into their difficult father-son relationship ... Kraftwerk, the German electronic music band at the Bowl next weekend, has a couple of surprising fans in pioneering LA Hip Hop DJs Arabian Prince and Egyptian Lover ... We'll talk with the last surviving member of the wheelchair basketball team that rose to national fame in 1947 from a VA rehab hospital in Norco ... And we go in-depth with Felipe Esparza. He's a common sight at comedy clubs and on TV, but years ago he was almost swallowed up by the gangs of East LA.
Leonard Nimoy’s son Adam tells us about his new film, "For the Love of Spock," which candidly digs into their difficult father-son relationship ... Kraftwerk, the German electronic music band at the Bowl next weekend, has a couple of surprising fans in pioneering LA Hip Hop DJs Arabian Prince and Egyptian Lover ... We'll talk with the last surviving member of the wheelchair basketball team that rose to national fame in 1947 from a VA rehab hospital in Norco ... And we go in-depth with Felipe Esparza. He's a common sight at comedy clubs and on TV, but years ago he was almost swallowed up by the gangs of East LA.

Leonard Nimoy’s son Adam tells us about his new film, "For the Love of Spock," which candidly digs into their difficult father-son relationship ... Kraftwerk, the German electronic music band at the Bowl next weekend, has a couple of surprising fans in pioneering LA Hip Hop DJs Arabian Prince and Egyptian Lover ... We'll talk with the last surviving member of the wheelchair basketball team that rose to national fame in 1947 from a VA rehab hospital in Norco ... And we go in-depth with Felipe Esparza. He's a common sight at comedy clubs and on TV, but years ago he was almost swallowed up by the gangs of East LA.

Comedian Felipe Esparza: 'I want Latinos to laugh the hardest at my jokes'

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Comedian Felipe Esparza: 'I want Latinos to laugh the hardest at my jokes'

KPCC's Erika Aguilar goes in-depth with Felipe Esparza about his transition from the streets of East LA to being a highly successful stand-up comedian who won NBC's "Last Comic Standing" in 2010, and says being an immigrant is central to his comedy.

Where does your story start?



My story started when we crossed the border when I was six or five. From Sinaloa, Mexico. My father, he came to America first, started another family, then came and got us. (Laughing) That’s part of my comedy routine. I did a lot of translating for my parents like most immigrant kids.  I would go to the hospital and translate for the doctor and they would tell me things like, "Tell your father he has back spasms." And I’m like third grade. I never heard back spasms in Spanish or English. So I would translate English the way I saw white people do it. You know, the way I saw my teacher do it. The way I saw the white police man do it – just add an “O” after every English word. "Papa, tienes backo spasmo." And the doctor would look at me and he would go, "That’s pretty good, kiddo."

Why is immigration, Latino issues … why is it so much part of your work? Why is it so important to you?



Because I find it funny. And I could relate to it, being an immigrant myself.  And I like saying it, you know, because not a lot of people talk about it, so I want to talk about. Some kids had their birthday party at McDonald’s, Chuck-e-Cheese’s. I had mine at the snack bar at Kmart. I got a lot of gifts ... but I had to put them all back. "Hey, hey, hey. Mijo, mijo, you get that toy in three months. Esta layway, c----n.”

Felipe Esparza: They're Not Gonna Laugh At You (2012)

Tell me what happened after that night you got high on PCP and got into a fight with one of your rivals?



The next day I’m walking around with blood on my shirt. There’s blood on my shoes. I don’t know what to do. So I’m walking around with a loaded pistol now for like a week because I’m scared there’s going to be retribution for what happened. So my mom -- you know how most Catholic moms are – they pray and thank God for everything.



So, Father Greg Boyle comes to my house. And he goes, "I heard you got into a lot of trouble. What are you going to do?' And I said, “Well, I ain’t going to run. I’m right here. They know where I live.” He said, "That’s what your mom told me. Maybe you need a break." I said, “Break. Where am I going to go? I’m not the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. We have a long talk and we sit and pray and then I decided to go to rehab. I was 21.



So, I’m there for about a year and I finally get out. I get out on a break and I go back … first person I see is the guy who I beat up. And he wants to revenge. And he started walking towards me, in front of me and my mom. And I just came from church. I’m just ignoring him. And I turned my back to him and I shouldn’t have done that, and he just kicks the Bible off of my hand. And he goes, “You think I’m going to stop just because your f------ mom is here. And I go, “I’m going to f--- you up right now. We’re going to fight!”



Then, I just … I thought about it – and it’s always sad because … I really wanted to go kill this guy, man … I really, really! … wanted to just end it all right there and just … But I cried, instead, which made things worse. “You gonna cry you, pussy!” So, I just went inside; I grabbed this big as bat and I just – I just rushed outside.



And my Dad with all his might, he just hold me. Hold me. And the more he hold me, the more I cried; the more I cried. And I could just hear this guy … Seeehhheee, man. I just didn’t not go outside … and um, … my Dad just … he ended up taking me back to the rehab that day and then, I couldn’t go back home.

Then you went back to rehab, where you met a mentor who asked you, "What did you always want to be in life?"



And I said, “Umm, do you mean like goals?” “Yeah, like goals. What were your goals?  Well, I never really had goals. I never thought about being anything but a comedian. Write that, number one: comedian. And then it goes easy! Then, I was like happy! But like happy tears come out of my eyes. The second one was to be happy. Easy. The third one: I always liked Olive Garden. I wanted to go Italy, not just taste it. And then four and five, I couldn’t think anymore. I was too excited about the first one. So what I would do, I would bring in all the homies from my neighborhood where I lived, you know, and they would give me a ride. I had an audience and I made them laugh and it felt good, man.



I want Latinos to laugh the hardest at my jokes. I want white people to laugh, too, but I don’t want them to laugh as hard as Latinos do.

Meet the last surviving member of Norco's pioneering veterans wheelchair basketball team

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Meet the last surviving member of Norco's pioneering veterans wheelchair basketball team

70 years ago, inspiration struck in Southern California that enriched the lives of countless veterans with spinal cord injuries. It was wheelchair basketball, which improved the vets’ physical and mental health, and helped tell their story at a time when disabled people were usually hidden away.

Listen to the audio to hear my conversation with David Davis, who has the story in the latest edition of Los Angeles Magazine, and Jerry Fesenmeyer, the last surviving member of The Rolling Devils, a team of paralyzed vets from the U.S. Naval Hospital in Norco.

Fesenmeyer, now 90 and living in a small town in Texas, was paralyzed by a Japanese sniper bullet near the end of World War 2. I asked what his treatment was like, and he laughed. "Let's put it this way, almost non-existent."



If Fesenmeyer had suffered a spinal cord injury prior to World War II, he likely would have died either from the trauma itself or from infection. The few paraplegics who survived in those days were shunted off to hospitals and ordered to remain flat on their backs. Then came penicillin and improved surgical techniques, both of which vastly increased the survival rate of the severely wounded. And long-term treatment began to change, too—albeit not right away. After peace was declared and Fesenmeyer was brought stateside, he landed at the U.S. Naval Hospital Corona in the Riverside County town of Norco, some 50 miles east of downtown. “In the beginning they didn’t know how to take care of us,” he says. “They believed if you had a spinal injury, you weren’t supposed to get out of bed for a year. I laid in that goddamn bed just rotting away.”



That scenario was changing, though. Doctors were developing a revolutionary, if counterintuitive, way to rehabilitate paralyzed vets: through exercise and, in particular, wheelchair basketball. The sport was born in Southern California and later helped launch the Paralympic Games, which celebrate their 56th year this September in Rio. Fesenmeyer was among the pioneers. At 90, he’s the last surviving member of the Rolling Devils, one of the first organized sports teams for disabled athletes. The Devils sold out arenas and transformed not only the public’s perception of paraplegics but paraplegics’ perceptions of themselves.



-- David Davis, Los Angeles Magazine

Jerry is typical of the Greatest Generation: the most he'll admit about playing wheelchair basketball is that it "got him out of bed." But it also gained him his first wife - a high school girl who came to a game in Corona - and for the public, it was an important wake-up call that people in wheelchairs are people with lives to lead.

We go deep with Adam Nimoy on his new documentary 'For the Love of Spock'

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We go deep with Adam Nimoy on his new documentary 'For the Love of Spock'

"Star Trek," the original TV series, went on the air 50 years ago tomorrow - Sept. 8, 1966. To celebrate, Off-Ramp host John Rabe talks with Adam Nimoy, son of Leonard Nimoy and the director of the new documentary about his father and his father's most famous character, "For the Love of Spock." Here are some excerpts, but we've also included - along with the broadcast version of the interview - a lightly edited 18-minute version for real Trekkies.

On their often very difficult relationship:



“There were a lot of ups and downs in our lives together. There was a period of estrangement that I talk about in the film from him. It was very difficult as a young boy growing up to get my dad's attention. I could not even be in public with dad without him being mobbed. The fact of the matter is, through recovery work - both of us individually - 12-step work - we were able to reconnect with one another and let go of some of the wreckage of the past."

On Leonard Nimoy v Spock:



“There was a period where he was trying to prove he could do more, that he wasn’t only just Spock, but I think he always embraced the character. I think Spock is somebody - particularly later in his life - that he was very comfortable and very proud to have been connected with.”

On Leonard Nimoy's influence on the Star Trek reboot:



“We interviewed most – if not all -- of the new cast members and they were very reverential and very loving about my dad.  They were very grateful to have his involvement in these new incarnations of Star Trek.  They felt that even though he was gone his spirit was very much alive. It was overwhelming to get that feedback and very heartwarming.”

Adam Nimoy and his father Leonard Nimoy, in a photo featured in Adam's new documentary  "For the Love of Spock."
Adam Nimoy and his father Leonard Nimoy, in a photo featured in Adam's new documentary "For the Love of Spock."
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On a letter Leonard Nimoy wrote his son in 1973, re-discovered only after his death in 2015:



“It’s an incredible letter, and the strange thing is I didn’t know it existed till last December just before we were about to shoot some interviews. I found the letter a couple days before and I discussed it with my partners and other producers. And we decided we were going to film me reading that letter. I hadn’t opened it since 1973 when he gave it to me. He was acknowledging that we had these issues, and some of the responsibility for it.  It was heartening to me, but it was important to the film because I talk about the problems we had, but I don’t have him to comment on them. And then this letter appeared where he is commenting on them. It gives a whole other perspective on what was going on between the two of us.”

On the public, worldwide mourning for Leonard Nimoy:



“It was surprising and shocking for my family. We knew there was Spock fans out there but the magnitude of the reaction was overwhelming – I mean the President released a press release about his love of Spock. It’s amazing what he accomplished with that role, and what Spock means to people. [Spock] was a reflection of who we are as humans, even though he was only half human. And a reflection of what we aspire to be as human beings.”

Adam Nimoy will be appearing in person at the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood on Saturday, Sept. 10, for a screening of "For the Love of Spock," as part of the American Cinematheque's 50th anniversary celebration of Star Trek, which went on the air in the fall of 1966.

Song of the Week: "A-OK!" By Cosmonauts

Celebrating Leonard Nimoy and Spock, and comedian Felipe Esparza

This week’s Off-Ramp Song of the Week comes from deep in Northern Orange County: it’s “A-OK!” by the Fullerton psychedelic band Cosmonauts.

Founded in 2009 at a house show in Orange County, Cosmonauts has recorded three albums and a handful of singles. Their latest full-length, also called “A-OK!” is out now on Anaheim’s Burger Records.

If you like what you hear, you can celebrate the new record by catching Cosmonauts live at the Echoplex on Thursday, September 15 for their album release show.

For Star Trek's 50th, Off-Ramp's 4 best Trek moments. What are yours?

Celebrating Leonard Nimoy and Spock, and comedian Felipe Esparza

"Star Trek," now dubbed the "The Original Series," went on the air on Sept. 8, 1966 ... that's 50 years ago Thursday.

Not just because I'm a Trekkie but because the show's influence is felt continuously in culture, we've aired a number of "Star Trek"-related segments on Off-Ramp in our ten years on the air. Here are a few of the best:

1. John talks with "Star Trek's" Sulu, George Takei, on the 10th anniversary of his coming out as gay



Rabe: "Were any of your fears realized?"



Takei: "As a matter of fact, my fear was losing my career, the reverse happened. My career blossomed!"

George Takei (right) and his husband Brad Altman
George Takei (right) and his husband Brad Altman
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2. We go to Comic Con and John talks with David Gerrold, the unlikely author of one of the best "Star Trek" entries of all time, "The Trouble with Tribbles"



'I was in college. I was just this geeky, skinny, gangly, college student with no social skills. I was a big science fiction fan, and I said to myself, "They've got to do their science fiction right," so I sat down and wrote an outline for them. Gene L. Coon said, "We're gonna buy your story, but we'll give you a chance to write the treatment." ... "Next thing I knew, the whole thing had gone through and they were shooting an episode.' -- David Gerrold

Tribbles, tribbles, everywhere!  A shot from the original 1967 "Star Trek" episode, written by Gerrold.
Tribbles, tribbles, everywhere! A shot from the original 1967 "Star Trek" episode, written by Gerrold.
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3. We talk with Gates McFadden in 2012 about her theater company, Ensemble Studio Theatre at the Atwater Village Theatre



You know, this area of town really reminded me of when I was first in New York, in the late 1960s and early 1970s. SoHo was sort of just happening. They had these spaces that were great but were weird when you went inside.

4. After an exclusive behind-the-scenes tour of CBS's ground-up restoration of "Star Trek: The Next Generation," KPCC's Chief Trekkie, Dale Hoppert, tells us why we should buy the new discs



What's really special about this new high-tech release is the chance to re-experience, more intimately and up-close than ever before, the performances of one of the finest casts of actors ever assembled. Ensembled. Whatever. There were a bunch of them, led by Shakespearean-trained Patrick Stewart, and despite their reputation as the more sedate Star Trek generation, these guys were chewing up the scenery and spitting out technobabble with faith and earnest and a bellyfull of investment.



Remember, they were acting through all the same technological limitations that made the special effects look so muddy once upon a time. And now ... finally ... we can see it all.



First, Jonathan Frakes is not a stiff! Poor old Commander Riker had this reputation as the statue that stood at Picard's right hand and dumbed-down the technobabble. And that was a big part of his job. To be the third guy to say the same thing in a scene. But it turns out that Will Riker was positively smoldering all the time. Oh! Watch his eyes! Anytime he is slighted, his captain is slighted, or if anyone looks askance at Counselor Troi, just watch him flash and flare! Don't forget, the man honed his craft in soap operas!

Now, what are your best Star Trek memories, fifty years after the show first hit the airwaves? Share them in the comments below!