Good Ol' Captain America. Defender of our country. Always believing in American values.
That is until this week...
"Hail Hydra."
Two words that millions of comic book fans would have bet millions that Steve Rogers a.k.a. Captain America would NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER say.
But he did.
Cap has been fighting the evil terrorist organization for 75 years - HOWEVER - yesterday Marvel dropped Captain America: Steve Rogers #1 on the shelves and it revealed that the red, white and blue hero has been a deep agent for Hydra the whole time.
What? Why? How?
Here to help answer ALL of those questions is KPCC pop culture editor Mike Roe.
"There have been storylines similar to this in the past," Roe said to Take Two's A Martinez. "I think that a lot of what the anger over this storyline is that it came out at a time when there's the internet for people to get upset about it."
And indeed that internet outrage was swift and powerful. On twitter #SayNoToHYDRACap trended for much of Wednesday, with some even going so far as accusing Marvel of spitting in the face of an iconic character.
So will this drastic change stick?
"It's highly unlikely," Roe said. "Big reveals like this often don't last."
To hear the full conversation, click the blue player above.