In the 1930s, with the country staggering under the Depression and looming international threats, many Americans looked to boxing for heroes on which they could project their hopes and fears. Two of the greatest icons of the ring were Joe Louis and Max Schmeling, magnificent athletes who came to represent far more to their fans and detractors. Larry Mantle talks to author David Margolick about his new book Beyond Glory: Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling and a World on the Brink, which examines the symbolic clashes of these two titans and their implications beyond the ring.