Last Thursday, the Audubon Society opened an urban nature center in Ernest E. Debs Park northeast of downtown Los Angeles, an underused and somewhat forgotten refuge alongside the Pasadena Freeway, home to 136 bird species. The educational center is the second urban Audubon facility in the country, representing a major philosophical shift for the conservation group, which is trying to reposition itself to respond to the demographic changes that are altering the face of the nation. The Center will provide innovative, hands-on, outdoor science programs to children and families in some of Los Angeles' most underserved neighborhoods. Elsa Lopez, newly appointed Director of the new Audubon Center at Debs Park, joins Host Larry Mantle to talk about Debs Park.