23 Arrested During Downtown L.A. Protest This Morning [UPDATED]

If Congress would repeal the Bush Era tax cuts and create a "Super Committee" to investigate fraud and corruption on Wall Street and the Banks. I bet these protests would end. Until then, the masses remain angry.

Ooh, ooh, or even better, they could create a "Commission" to police the securities and banking industries, and imbue it with prosecutorial powers to bring civil lawsuit or administrative actions against people that violated the rules it established. 

The could call it the Commission, or  some sort of Commission.

We are the 99%! We screw up traffic for the other 99%. We want to tax the 1%, because that will somehow fix the financial problems of the 99%. We want other people to pay our debt. We are the 99%

cross posting on the gothamists now, miles? i thought you only trolled on SFist.

Occuidiocy news keeps popping up on the SFist, I feel obligated to point out the asinine behavior and logic that is behind this movement. It’s too easy and they keep making it easier. I just love the daily affirmation that I’m right and they are crazy. Now if you excuse me there is some bearded 20 something that is half drunk screaming about how we need to abolish money that needs some makin’ fun of. Tootles!

He's breaded? And fried?

No, he also trolls in your mom's panties.

and i'm not convinced you two aren't one and the same. 

Your mom is.

The ticket to economic equality is more skirmishes with the cops!

raises hand i believe there is undue corporate influence on elected officials, so,a fuck given from over here.

Of course there is! How is setting up tents everywhere going to stop that. Their tactics are stupid. They are HURTING the so-called 99% by doing this. The few who support some of their issues are also being totally turned off by them now because of these stupid tactics.

In a nutshell:
Pissing off and hurting the very people you claim to be "fighting" for is a seriously stupid and completely counter productive thing to do.

At this point, they seem to trying to impress eachother.

Don't be surprised if the "elderly" woman who volunteered to be arressted shows up in all their twitpics and propaganda..."look what the big bad police did to this poor ELDERLY WOMAN" whine whine whine.

So what YOUR solution SB? Sit on your ass and assume the top 1% is going to fair and equitable to the bottom 99%? 

Be sure and hold your breath buddy!

My solution sure as hell doesn't involve hurting the people I want to help. How about rally to stop members of congress from being exempt from insider trading? It is illegal to you and me and even Martha freakin Stewart, but congress can trade to their hearts desire. THAT is tangible goal to protest. Also, OWS has enough $$$ stockpiled now to actually do some good. THAT i won't be holding my breath for. Why? Because they want OTHER people's money while they hoard theirs. They are hypocrites talking the talk and having fun playing commune on public property. The media has interviewed them SEVERAL times, giving them a VOICE and an amazing OPPORTUNITY to be clear and establish a focused goal, but instead all they do is talk nonsense and complain! Alright already, stop complaining, get your asses out of the f*n park and DO something.

Provoking cops for "cool points" among the camps is bullshit plain and simple. You want to support that, go right on ahead mang.

I'll repeat my post to Mr. Caps lock;

I vote, I volunteer for California Clean Money, I circulate petitions for electoral reform, (without pay), and I've passed out free food to homeless people,(I prefer working with secular groups like Food Not Bombs). I've been an activist since 2000. And a lot of the same people I've met in the past 11 years who do the same as me are involved in the Occupy movement. So your bullshit argument doesn't hold water, these people already do all the things you say they SHOULD be doing.

Who decides when there comes a point when trying to work within the system is no longer an option? When you've exhausted all your other  options, the only option you are left with is civil disobedience. 

"Provoking cops for "cool points" among the camps is bullshit plain and simple."

Read the Constitution. We have the RIGHT to petition the government for redress of grievances. This is written in our founding documents. This is not about "cool points" or "provoking cops". 

I think I'll ask for proof of your allegations that OWS is well funded and is hoarding money that could be doing some good. I'm calling you on that. Show me something. 

Pretty lame, copy/pasting yourself considering my comment was in response to your original post.  Pretty lazy there.

You wrote:
"Read the Constitution. We have the RIGHT to petition the government for
redress of grievances. This is written in our founding documents."

oooh I see a caps lock there. Do  I spot a hypocrite?  But anyway....

Of course we have a right to petition the gov. No big news there. Your comment doesn't address any of the points in my post. Why is that? This is the problem, too much chanting, ranting, etc. without doing any listening...or in this case lacking in reading comprehension.

To reiterate my point.
Ows has an opportunity to try to make changes. All they are doing is fighting over tents! How incredibly lame.  They are more interested in setting up tents and saving face, than they are actually accomplishing a goal. So all the chest pounding and whining about "police brutality" is BULLSHIT.  They have volunteered in advance to be arrested (sooo badass..not). 

And because you're too lazy to look it up yourself. I did you a favor. ows seems to have a record of being lazy, and whiney.
 
But anyway here's a link for your lazy ass.

Reg: ows cash.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Reg: negative impact on local small businesses.

http://www.ibtimes.com/article...

Of course a simple google search will bring up tons of articles. Make sure you work on your comprehension skills 1st so you'll be sure to understand the big words.
 

"whining about "police brutality" is BULLSHIT."

Yea right!

http://sfist.com/2011/11/19/uc...

Lol you really think I haven't seen that? Fool.

Ever wonder why none of the "kids" get up and leave? You see all the cameras on them? They plan this ahead of time, knowing they will probably get sprayed, arrested, etc., in some cases making arrangements for arrests with the police BEFORE the protest. It's all for Occupy publicity and more monetary donations. Their tactic is to plan these fake "brutality" events and then blast their pre-planned video all over the internet calling for "outrage" i.e. support and donations.

You reallly fell for it? Lol

You are a propaganda monkey, big fat eyes and ears taking it all it just as planned.

You are a  child. Grow the fuck up!

You are REALLY a sore loser. If you're going to support OWS so wholeheartedly, you should really learn what you're supporting. I started out as a supporter until I started learning the truth and seeing for myself (in person, at the camp) what was really going on.
Reg: the planned claims of brutality to rally support and donations.
"Also not surprising is that the increase in media coverage and the reaction of law enforcement appears to have bolstered the coffers. Aberman said “When all the arrests started happening in Boston, there was a huge spike in donations to Boston-based Occupy Wall Street campaigns.”

Link to above quote/article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ch...

Reg: pre-arranged arrests and volunteer arrestees. Keep in mind this woman VOLUNTEERED AHEAD OF TIME, made arrangment with police along with 23 others BEFORE the march. Later, as predicted, she uses her age and claims "abuse". Dispicable tactic by Occupy LA.

"One of the first people taken into custody in the protest was 81-year-old Bertha Jordan, who was wearing a T-shirt that read "Arrest Wall Street Bankers" and was among those who stood in the middle of a street.

"I'm a senior citizen and I've been abused and misused," Jordan told reporters, before she was led away by police."

Link to above quote/article:
http://mobile.reuters.com/arti...

Whooo! $500,000 donated to OWS in comparison to the BILLIONS (yes in caps), that Wall Street has stolen from our economy and the American people.

Who's lame?

Who's lame? You are.

You thought you were so badass saying...

"I think I'll ask for proof of your allegations that OWS is well funded and is hoarding money that could be doing some good. I'm calling you on that. Show me something."

Since you were too lazy to look it up yourself, I did you the favor and gave you this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/....
Is changing the argument/subject all you can do when someone makes an ass out of you?

Changing the subject?  

I wasn't the one who brought up the money.You were.

You tried to challenge my comment to another person and said this:

"So what YOUR solution SB? Sit on your ass and assume the top 1% is going to fair and equitable to the bottom 99%?

Be sure and hold your breath buddy!"

I answered you and brought up the hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash donations ows, and I suggested they do something positive with it.
For some reason (your apparently inflated ego) couldn't undesrtand, and challenged me again to "show you something" in the way of proof that they had this "alleged" money. Again, I answered with links and your ego was shattered again. Now you say "I wasn't the one who brought up the money you were". Talk about whiney and childish. If you cant handle the answer, dont ask the question. You are a joke. Lol "activist" my ass.

Challenge you? Get a fucking life!

When you ask for proof from someone you are accusing of "making shit up" and actually use the words you did, " I think I'll ask for proof of your allegations that OWS is well funded and is hoarding money that could be doing some good. I'm calling you on that. Show me something.". THAT is a challenge. Call it whatever you want, I don't give a crap, but you asked, you got, and your ego got bruised. That's not my problem.

Or, you know, fucking VOTE, both with your ballot and your dollar. Or volunteer to lobby for voting reform. Or work for a homeless shelter. Or work for the justice center. Or do ANYTHING AT ALL IN THE WORLD BESIDE CAMP IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND TRY TO PROVOKE CONFRONTATIONS WITH COPS JUST DOING THEIR JOB.

cough

I vote, I volunteer for California Clean Money, I circulate petitions for electoral reform, (without pay), and I've passed out free food to homeless people,(I prefer working with secular groups like Food Not Bombs). I've been an activist since 2000. And a lot of the same people I've met in the past 11 years who do the same as me are involved in the Occupy movement. So your bullshit argument doesn't hold water, these people already do all the things you say they SHOULD be doing.

Next?

What do you want? A cookie? A lot of us activists and volunteers, and no, we don't all support the ridiculous tactics and convoluted messages of OWS.

Go brag to someone who will be impressed.

Well said.

what? did you hear me say i gave a fuck about your ability to comprehend the world around you? 'cause i don't.

And that's why you'll stay ignorant.

Another IST posting about Occupy, another fuck not given!

You do not need to be religious to understand -and embrace- the idea that "Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." But in their blind greed and schemes, the 1% has forgotten and closed their eyes to what the word "society" should really mean. Because of Occupy Wall Street and its offshoots, we are finally talking less about CUTS and more about BLEEDING. Instead of demanding more budget cuts -to be borne by the middle class and poor- we are FINALLY focusing on the shameful bleeding that the poor and middle class has endured for all too long. Instead of talking about even more cuts in the taxes of millionaires...we are now talking about fairness and justice - about an economy and a political system that is run for the rich, and by the rich. Instead of talking about LESS government, we are talking about a government that WORKS FOR ALL OF US, not just a favored few. Thank you OWS, for reminding us that people -ordinary working people- really DO matter, and for helping open our eyes to what’s really going on in this country. Thank you OWS, for standing up for the workers, and for those looking for work, and for those that will graduate or come back from war ...and find no work. Thank you OWS, for standing your ground, for enduring illegal beatings and arrests - non-violently. Thank you OWS, from all of us who can’t be there in person, from all of us who are working two and three jobs just to keep up, from all of us struggling to raise our children, or caring for our elderly, or just trying to live with some dignity.....while the rich become richer and more powerful, at our expense. The 1% are running this economy. Indeed, they’re running it right into the ground - with their get rich schemes, their shipping of jobs overseas, their tax evasions, and their cuts in social programs. You inspire and motivate us OWS. You strengthen us, and give us hope.  And we’re damn PROUD OF YOU! This land IS our land! AND WE WANT IT BACK!  We want our FUTURE back! But it’s much more than mere words.... it’s much more than just politics..... it’s your freakin’ LIFE, and how you want to live it, and how you WILL live it. The time has come to choose....to risk...and to act. If not now...then when? If not you, then....who? You DO have the power my friend. Don’t let your dreams die.

Lol illegal beatings and arrests. Theyre all volunteering because they know people like you will call them heros. Lame!

NONE have been arrested illegally. In each camp they were given fair warning and CHOSE to either get aggressive (they should be arrested) or refuse to obey police orders knowing that would cause police to need to use force.

Stop playing the victim. True revolutionaries NEVER play victim or fake hero.

What would a real revolutionary look like?

Hi Ezra, I want to add to my earlier answer. One of the problems I see with OWS, is that they are focusing on the wrong target. Wall Street is a symptom of the problem, but the problem is the politicians who enable wall street to do what they do. It is politicians dems and repubs who are ALL to blame for allowing themselves (through self-serving laws) to be bought and paid for by big corps. I believe OWS needs to refocus and stop telling us what they dont like, we get it. We already know. They should start talking more about what the WANT, and offering political solutions to acheive it. Simply showing anger got the worlds attention..great, but now what. They need to start phase two or I see this as a wasted opportunity. However, I have stopped supporting them entirely as they have blocked all my suggestions, and blocked me on twitter and funny enough, are now talking about "phase Two". Speaking my words verbatim. They claim no leaders, but trust me, they are all fighting among themselves for power and the spotlight. I find it hypocritical and again, counterproductive.

I don't think anyone can answer this with any authority. I can only offer my opinion, which I have done. I believe actions always speak louder than words, and I have to believe that a true revolutionary does not hurt the people they claim to be fighting for. So many of the actions of OWS have HURT the so-called 99%. Also, true rev. Don't allow their message to become diluted by outsiders who only want to use them and their name for themselves. True revs would never allow an opportunist like Michael Moore to USE them for his own personal gain. He is everything OWS claims to despise yet there they are welcoming him with open arms. That is not smart, respectable, or helping any cause. In short, its counterproductive and a little dumb. Also, history has shown that revolutionaires often break the law. The fact that OWS has CHOSEN to break laws has never been a problem with me. What I do have a problem with, and where they lose respect from me, is once they make the conscious choice to break the laws, they cry victimization. They can't have it both ways. If I personally choose to break a law and know what the consequences of that choice might be (right or wrong), I will not gain any credibility by then claiming to be a victim.