City Council to Vote on Occupy L.A. Resolution This Wednesday

Wall street is not the problem. The problem is government. If the government just stood by the constitution then we not be in this mess. Instead of paying for their crimes or paying for their bad loans, they just pay bribes / campaign contributions to corrupt politicians then they get massive bail outs or they are granted retro active immunity from prosecution.

SBX211 Retro Active
Immunity given to California judges for openly taking bribes. Judges are
employees of the state they receive their pay and benefits from the state. The
Los Angeles Superior court judges are currently receiving an additional
$57.688,00 from the county of Los Angeles. there is no bigger user of the court
than L.A. County.(A party to the case and has a financial interest in most
cases in the courts) Those payments were found to be unconstitutional / illegal
in Sturgeon vs L.A. County. after that decision the judges paid a lobbyist to
pass SBX211 ( RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY )

SBX211 does not restore
due process

SBX211 violates Article
1 section 9

SBX211 violates the 14th
amendment (no equal protections)

SBX211 violate checks
and balances between legislative and Judicial powers

Judges do not disclose
the county payments at the onset of any trial where the county is either a
party to the case or has a financial interest. (Judges violate Judicial codes
of ethics)

Judges refuse to recuse
themselves when requested under CCP170

Judges find themselves
unbiased and then file an order striking statement.

In the year of 2010
alone $57,688.00 per year per judge X 460 judges = $26,709.544.00 paid to
judges from L.A. County from tax payer money to only have the judges rule
against the tax payer in favor of L.A. County or the County's interest. THE
BRIBES WORK.

 HISTORY OF RETRO
ACTIVE IMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES

1. given for
unconstitutional use of torture

2. given for illegal
merger of banks ( we can see the effects of that now )

3. given to telecom
company for illegal wire taps. ( Fisa bill, that led to the patriot act )

4. SBX211 given to
Judges for taking bribes.

SBX211 is evidence of
conspiracy of the California legislative branch of government to cover up the
multiple felony's committed by the Judicial branch of government. By an act of
Legislation, California's judicial branch has admitted to be corrupt.

SECTION FROM SBX211

This bill would provide
that no governmental entity, or officer or employee of a governmental entity,
shall incur any liability or be subject to prosecution or disciplinary action
because of benefits provided to a judge under the official action of a
governmental entity prior to the effective date of this bill on the ground that
those benefits were not authorized under law.

Wall street IS the government Cooper. Ex CEOs from Wall Street and the same ilk run heads of National Departments. It's one in the same. Like matter and atoms.

Well lookie what we have here.

An Occupy LA protestor being applauded by the crowd after calling for the violent removal of the "bourgeoisie".

How very peace-loving and non-violent of them.

Yes ...to hell with Gandhi and his inane preaching of non-violence.

Now, let's go beat up some rich people!

You should see some of the actually fascist comments from the NYC protestors about residents in their proximity. After reading their vitriol I've begun to suspect the protests are borderline fascist. And I wanted to support them so bad but I'm starting to see what everyone else is saying about them. 

http://www.dnainfo.com/2011092...

There are comments from jerks from both sides on that article (or any article, including this one).  Did you read the end of the article that said:
After the meeting, Wedes said Occupy Wall Street was open to changing some of its practices, including the noisy late-night gatherings.
"We want to be good neighbors," he said. "We want to work out these issues."

That doesn't sound terribly fascist to me.  And are you really sure you want to support them?

Comments, much like yours - outside of the article, Einstein. You're such a petty individual.

Hey pot, there's only one person doing the name calling here (several times) and it wasn't the kettle.

Awe - it was a compliment. I really think you're a genius, ya' know? Hypocrisy is a bitch ... no? Cheers.

That doesn't even make sense.  Anyway I had fun yelling and carrying on during the march Saturday.  I think I'll send them a pizza today "From Kat ;)"

That's fine - And when our neighborhood commission reads the residential ruling to Roybal in our upcoming meeting about the issue - which they've chilled out considerably btw - I'll make sure to use your arrogant disrespect of the movement's message and of the surrounding resident's wishes as an example of the type of ungrateful and readily mean-spirited individuals everyone's dealing with. I may as well print this thread out and bring it along with me. Luckily you've cowardly hidden your name so OLA wont get to personally thank the individual for representing them and the cause "so well" at the near and upcoming committee meeting.  

Really?  You're going to use a blog comments board for proof that the movement is disrespectful?  I'm sure you'll be includingthe entire thread then where you start by accusingpeaceful protesters (err--I mean white trailer trash) of not being peaceful and wanting to ruin property value.  I'm actually a very respectful person but you Kat are not worthy of that respect. You've told me to eat a dick and now I'm a coward (tho I don't know your name either I'll point out).  Somehow I think you'll be censoring your own arrogance when you complainabout the mean boy in the blog comments.  As if they'd care anyway. 

I sure will. It takes TWO to tango and you rudely walked into this with your blinders on kid. But yep - I'll include the whole damn thread and include the other news articles of noise complaints where many folks who "support" the movement tell hard working families who just want a peaceful home and life,  to "deal with it" and that it's their fault for living in homes that are apparently too good for them... as deemed by the apparently "all too considerate" protestors. 

I'll be happy to show them the log I've been keeping and how rental rates are actually - yes for real - going down in the surrounding buildings due to the "unknown" factor of how long the camper/noise makers will be there. I actually spent the week making calls to landlords across the area and have the prices to compare after shopping from this exact time last year. It's not pretty for what the numbers show. (Granted our landlord is probably part of the 1% and sucks as a lesser and probably can live without gouging us but that's another issue on it's own.) 

And yea I'll show them my very frustrated comments and explain: "You'd be really up-tight and frustrated too if you were living in a zone that was once predictable and peaceful, which is quite the opposite now. And you'd be doubly ticked off too if you lived in these new "residential zones" who suddenly have loud P.A.s, concerts, shouting and drumming whenever they think they deserve it every day - which is now affecting the already sedated market - ESPECIALLY IF you read the terrible comments about how no one living around the "pop up societies" deserved to live in peace anyway because they apparently aren't deemed to deserve it. You'd be pissed if you were a simple night worker who needs sleep and a peaceful home and thought you had it ... only to be vengefully told by people who are with a sudden agenda that is actually supposed to be meaningful, who just set up camp next door, to just "deal with it" because our lives don't matter to them."

Yes sir/ma'am, I am taking videos, keeping logs, making notes, and documenting articles because NO ONE is fighting for the residents. Well - I am. And if you had to deal with this disappointing crap, I'd like to think you'd do the same too. 

We all want this movement to be meaningful but when it's twisted around to demonize and exclude average working people who don't want to sleep in a tent and who don't want their living rooms, kitchens, bathrooms and bedrooms invaded everyday by drums, bass, loud PA systems, and followed up with antagonistic "supporters" - then all this movement has become to us is just another gross misrepresentation of the good American people. 

La MIS ma Caca.

Maybe ya'll shoulda gone about setting this thing up uniquely like discussed in Ashley's article: http://t.co/k11Kep5e  instead of setting up another skid row-esque tent city actual protest - of which this neighborhood is already wary. Maybe you shouldn't exclude us when all we want to do is put our kids to bed. Maybe a tiny bit of respect for another goes a long way. Just maybe.

In conclusion, a lot of us "forced participants" of Occupy actually want to support this movement but like "The Ugly American" said - you aren't going to win anyone over with comments like "Deal with it" or "You deserve it." That's just as fascist and scummy as the rest ... and that soils our taste, which perpetuates into our circles, for Occupy and it's "supporters." 

Not that you even care. 

Cheers.

Los Angeles deserves to be treated with respect. You don't. Forgive me for skipping to the end but I'm beyond bored with you. Next time you want to appeal to people's better senses maybe don't start out by calling them unpeaceful trailer trash. I'm out.

Yep. You are totally "helping" the movement in that sort of helping it burn down faster, sort of way. And helping L.A. in that sort of "I don't need to actually know how to debate and use considerate logic and facts" sort of way. Fail on brother. Fail on.

I didn't hear any tea partiers preaching Gandhi either. In fact I've heard a lot of talk about 2nd amendment solutions and seen a lot of gun toting from that camp. 

I takes all kinds TUA. Just the use of the word "bourgeoisie" leads me to believe that this person is probably  a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party. Those in the RCP represent a very small group of people. They always talk a lot about revolution, and they don't even vote. In other words they disenfranchise themselves. How rational is that?

I didn't hear any tea partiers preaching Gandhi either. In fact I've heard a lot of talk about 2nd amendment solutions and seen a lot of gun toting from that camp. 

...Those in the RCP represent a very small group of people.

See what you just did there?

Have fun defending the 1% "very small group" of extremist wackos in the OWS movement of which we will continue to cherry-pick for our own amusement.

Or to put it more eloquently in your words ...political payback is a bitch.

P.S. I hope that wasn't too monotonous or preening for you Margueritte.

I try but admit that sometimes I am not as intelligent as others

"See what you just did there?"
Yes, but apparently YOU didn't. The Occupy Wall St. are not the RCP, though you would love to paint them as such. Most of the OWS are completely non violent, and I haven't seen ANY of them carrying weapons. And I still can't say as much for the tea party crowd. But pray do enlighten me if I'm in error here.

http://www.historycommons.org/...

Pardon, but you're getting a bit monotonous. Do you actually have a point to make besides selectively nit picking at an awkwardly phrased remark here or a fringe statement there? It doesn't quite add up to an intelligent argument. I'm quite certain you actually have something to say, and even though I'll probably disagree with you I'd welcome that over these preening little quips. Please try. At least Kat's making an effort with her complaints about her neighborhood being ruined (apparently she lives next to City Hall, no doubt homeless or incarcerated.)

So the highest-paid city council (not to mention employee union workers) in the country are going to lecture all us evil capitalists on the dangers of unrestrained corporate greed.

That's a good one.

I mean - yea, sure why not. 

Although - I took from this posting above that it's just an allowance for them to continue holding the neighborhood hostage in their quest.

Hey Richard Alarcon and Bill Rosendahl - They're not being peaceful at all. They're screaming, ranting, and singing with amplified P.A. systems into residential neighborhoods all day and all night and drumming too ... it's pretty far from "peaceful." 

Edit: Oct 12 ( a day after this comment)
Allow me to add they're having a loud P.A. concert now and some of them have decided to leave camp and circle around the block with drums. "99%" my foot - they're just into whatever benefits them for an endless festival on the city's dime. Can't imagine where the electricity for the P.A. system is coming from. There isn't a generator.

Screaming, ranting and singing is still "peaceful" in my book.  Molotov throwing, clubbing and looting is where the line gets crossed. 

Well yea sure - they're not being criminals. Hooray. No - it's just like suddenly a trailer park of white trash has decided that my front yard is a great place to set up "Crown Royal Estates." They want to ruin property value by becoming the next trashy neighbor then they're going to have to be held responsible for property rate decreases and getting the police called on them all the time. They don't really even have a permit to be there, let alone scream into a P.A. system all day - They could just as easily move the noisy part of their protest to the other side of City Hall where there aren't homes in the line of their ruckus but so far they've refused to do this. At this point, I can't wait till they're "evicted."

Democracy is a b*tch ain't it.

Go back out to your lawn I think some teenagers are smoking cigarettes now.

Yea - no. I'm not going to put up with being harassed in my own neighborhood for an undetermined amount of time. And as the Ugly American stated, if they were on your lawn - you'd be irritated too.  Democracy is not a bitch. Passive people like you are.

Well if passive people are a bitch and active people are too loud then I guess we can just conclude that is sucks to be you.

I think I can conclude you're a pointless argument starting ass. Eat a dick.

Okee dokee.  Have fun living downtown.

I will. It's a wonderful place to  live. And I plan to fight to keep it that way. 

By complaining about political actions? Downtown has always been the activism central in LA and it seems selfish of you (never mind futile) to want people to act in accordance with your convenience.  Back to my original point though, yelling and carrying on is still within the lines of a "peaceful protest".

This app sucks. Anyway - protests for a few hours or a day are fine. Protests that are for an indefinite amount of time are not. It's not rocket science, Einstein. 

Wow ...great response.

That should win them tons more support.

Something tells me if these were tea partiers laying waste to your neighborhood you'd be throwing a shit fit.

And rightfully so.

Thanks!

Not trying to win anyone support but come on these protesters are at city hall and we're supposed to agree with Kat that they are ruining her property value?!  That comment is hilarious -- please move your "noisy" protest to the other side of city hall are you kidding?

So ya the tea party wouldn't be protesting in my neighborhood because I don't live (all together this time) right across from city hall.

The common thread that keeps emerging from many of these people  who voted for Obama  is that the higher educational establishment sold them a bill of goods. It made it too easy for them to rack up huge debt, while teaching them little to nothing about what the real economy needs and values in workers. The professors keep their tenure, the university presidents keep their lavish homes and manicured lawns, and the students who pay exorbitant fees to keep the bubble inflated get left unprepared for the real world, with little but a lifetime of debt to show for it.
Many of these protesters have legitimate beefs. They’re just misdirecting their anger, thanks both to the political rhetoric coming from the White House, and to the poor quality of the education their hard work has purchased

I wish I could smack the assumptions out of your groups' heads. You all use the same lines. The same assumptions. You apply this view to the group of protestors and then look down smuggly on them. You and your groups are fascists. 

I sure the hell didn't vote for who you and your group of imbeciles THINK I voted for. I sure as hell don't believe what you and your group of imbeciles THINK I believe in. 

You're trying to downplay the problem by labeling people as a collective, especially with this set of protestors, is very flawed. Very presumptive and dangerous mindset, lfnfrtank.

No, actually, students who have amassed huge student loan debts and still can't find work after they graduate is only one part of a long list of complaints. Mostly it's about millionaires, billionaires and large multinational corporations paying a lower tax rate than your average middle class person, and then taking their profits and building factories some where over seas.

I.E. the promised effects of trickle down economics ain't trickling down and you have a lot of pissed off people, and unfortunately the one note wonders in elected office can't seem to come up with anything better.

I respect your opinion but it's just an opinion.  I find the anger appropriately directed.