California Dream Act Part A Signed Into Law Today By Governor Jerry Brown

Wow I was called a "white cracker" haven't heard that term in awhile. Actually I'm a white medical professional and proud of it. Educated by my own hand because gee I couldn't qualify for any handouts. Maybe I should have lived in CA. Unfortunately, sir it sure doesn't say much about you to sink to calling others' names to try and prove your point.

I don't live in CA but I live in NV where the illegals have basically taken over, leaving AZ in droves to escape the new laws. Ill be honest and say that I applied for a Naval position but with all the illegals overrunning the state, Ill stay here. Its cheaper and laws like this one, haven't yet reached Carson City.

Aside from all the other reasons why this is blatantly just plain wrong, you can't tell me that this won't encourage more illegals to bring their kids here for a free education/housing/ food. It is an open invitation from the Democratic party.

Jose. You represent well that banana country
mentality. No respect for this society you break into our house and demand the
keys and the house. Can you stop for a second and think why Latin
America is a mess and most people are desperate to get out? It is
not the geography or the economic resources; it is the mentality of the
majority of the people.


They are desperate to come to the USA and once they get here instead of
assimilating and learning the good things that this culture has to offer, they
demand that this country become a banana country.


Respect for the law made this country great. I do not think
that you have a clue about what I am talking.

I'll leave the actual arguments to other commenters, but I'm intrigued by all the trolls who admit they don't even live in CA. I somehow doubt they're regular LAist readers.

Do people just run searches for issues they disagree with & spout off on any site that comes up?

No,  this is a topic very close to my proud american heart!  And this makes me want to vomit!!!

This issue just makes my blood boil that illegals actually feel they
have the right to comment on money that we all pay as taxes being given
to those who come without documented visa. As someone who saw county
patients in my own state of NV, LI1383 you have no idea what your
talking about. I saw illegals for every single round my doctor was on
call who paid absolutely 0 on their bills walking away from any
accountability AND actually having the balls to come back and DEMAND
further care. If your paying taxes and your not a documented worker,
then I say whose ssn did you buy because here in NV you can, and most
illegals do, buy some old person's ssn and stick them to pay tax on the
money they make and send back to Mx.

You've been here 11 years? Good for you. Ive been her 47 and until you
pay until your broke, have your home taken from you, be told your
loosing your job because it's being outsourced to countries south of the
US and now have to move and start over, then you will have some rights
to bitch. Until then, I say if your not legal to be here. GET OUT AND
STAY OUT!

white cracker talking! ^^

Jose, as most Hispanics, is a blatant racist.

This issue just makes my blood boil that illegals actually feel they have the right to comment on money that we all pay as taxes being given to those who come without documented visa. As someone who saw county patients in my own state of NV, LI1383 you have no idea what your talking about. I saw illegals for every single round my doctor was on call who paid absolutely 0 on their bills walking away from any accountability AND actually having the balls to come back and DEMANDING further care. If your paying taxes and your not a documented worker, then I say whose ssn did you buy because here in NV you can and most illegals do buy some old person's ssn and stick them to pay tax on the money they make and send back to Mx.
You've been here 11 years? Good for you. Ive been her 47 and until you pay until your broke, have your home taken from you, be told your loosing your job because it's being outsourced to countries south of the US and now have to move and start over, then you will have some rights to bitch. Until then, I say if your not legal to be here. GET OUT AND STAY OUT!

If everything you described in the second paragraph happened to you, then that is really quite tragic and I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not entirely sure, however, how jobs being outsourced to other countries is necessarily related to illegal immigration. My understanding of outsourcing is, admittedly, limited, but it seems more an effect of liberal trade agreements allowing companies to manufacture elsewhere and import finished products back to the U.S. without tarriffs or trade restrictions. I don't see how that is impacted by illegal immigration one way or another (well except that, in the case of Mexico, a lot of the people who came over during the 90s bulge were displaced corn farmers driven out of business by cheap American corn that flooded Mexico after NAFTA). Otherwise, I'm curious.

First of all, I've been here for 23 years, worked for 11 years! I've had a VERY VALID SOCIAL SECURITY NO., not bought and paid for, as you would assume, because like most ignorant people you put me on your list of stereotypes! And if you are in the healthcare field, I suggest you find a new career. There isn't a hospital in the world that would deny care to ANY patient! No matter what their status is! You're just bitter because you are 47 years old and your life has turned due to the economic status of the country. Immigrants did not cause that, bankers did! You are taking it out on the wrong people!
And by the way, I was illegal until about a year ago, met my American born husband and got married. Therefore, I am here to stay! Sorry, not going absolutely anywhere. And unlike you I'm trying to make a difference, instead of sitting there and bitching about it!

It ridiculous that racism exists this day and age. I have no idea were half of you get your information! It's down right ridiculous. Lol. Whether you want to call us undocumented or illegal, I would consider this an opportunity to have some of the people in your state actually give back to society. Those students who will obviously benefit from this want an education and those who actually graduate with bachelor degrees will give back to California as professionals!
All of you classify immigrants as nothing but a burden to the US. If you didn't know, yes, some of us do work and pay our taxes! In answer to your question, YES I DO GET A PAYCHECK AND PAY MY TAXES every year, for the 11 years I've been working in this country. You people speak of how when someone arrives here illegally, they get everything handed to them? Healthcare, food stamps, benefits? What country are you living in? Illegals or undocumented immigrants do not qualify for any of this things! When applying for any of it, they will request social security no.'s and alien no.'s before handing anything out! Not once in the 23 years I've recited in this country have I seen or heard of anyone other than legal CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS qualify for any government help. Its sad to see how opinionated you all are, but in reality have no idea what you are talking about!
You rant about how your grandparents came here legally? Well if I may remind you, when your grandparents arrived immigration laws were very different than today's laws. What did they do, come here, get inspected and signed on a dotted line? Yeah, most likely. You have no idea how difficult it is for anyone to become a legal resident/citizen nowadays do you.
You arent the only one paying property taxes. You think because someone is undocumented, they cant own homes? There are plenty of undocumented home owners, and I bet they will back this bill up as well, being tax payers and all.
You are calling someone an idiot for saying we are all immigrants? We are, last  I checked, whether you get here legally or illegally, if your grandparents arrived here from another country, then guess what that makes them ... immigrants!

It disgusts me that legal residents that the education their property taxes pay for will go to education another country's citizens and not ours. It's not about skin color, it's about that piece-of-garbage "country" to the south's inability to get out of the 18th century and support its own citizens.

I'm dead tired of seeing Mexicans all over my town, sitting outside of Home Depot and doing jobs which should require a wage for pennies on the dollar. Equally sick of the contractors who hire them to circumvent paying into the economy. And I would love to see the state refuse to hire union labor from now on, cutting out those parasites and getting our job force back on track.

I'm ashamed to be a Californian today.

First you say;

"I'm dead tired of seeing Mexicans all over my town, sitting outside of
Home Depot and doing jobs which should require a wage for pennies on the
dollar."

Then you say;

"And I would love to see the state refuse to hire union labor from now on..."

These two statements totally contradict each other.

Where are all of the "dump Davis" chumps now? Davis wanted to tax motor vehicle licenses and he got canned. This guy destroyed our entire state's educational future and budged with a pen stroke. How about impeaching THIS guy?!

NIGHTMARE ACT!!!!! GOOD LUCK CA, BUT DON'T START COMING OUR WAY, BECAUSE WE UPHOLD THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS AND YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THE GREAT STATE OF ARIZONA.

arizona is a piece of shit state. your laws and people who make the laws are straight out racist.

CA needs arizonas laws

Jos-e: Oh my gosh! Thank goodness! You are one less we have to worry about coming here then. You and Jos-b. Your illiterate ramblings are exactly what brings this issue to the table. Why should we educate you for free????

Whoa, racism is very alive & well...how disappointing.

Racism and xenophobia always rears it's ugly head during times of economic downturn. It's much easier to blame those at the bottom of the food chain than hold those at the top responsible.

Pretty much...plus, we're all immigrants to this continent, we really don't know exactly who came here first, and Latinos used to totally own this land before the U.S. did. It's really disgusting to see so much ignorance and hate...legal immigration takes a lot more money than these people make in a year, and applications in Mexico can be turned down for literally any reason, even if the person handling your paperwork decides they don't personally like you.


I'm glad we're helping to educate young people, no matter where they're from.

BS, my great grand parents came here LEGALLY, something the bleeding heart open border fools can't comprehend. This is a slap in the face to all who came here the right way, legally.

You're an idiot. "We're all immigrants." lol No, my grandparents immigrated LEGALLY and their children achieved their education LEGALLY, not stealing it from residents who pay property taxes.

You want to talk about racism? How about the La Raza groups who supported this? How about all of the "brown and proud" rallies? How about looking through a list of college grants and finding NONE meant for caucasians, who aren't necessarily all rich and upper-class.

You are the racist. You dislike your own people.

You should catch up on your history

Evidence of ancient human migratory paths have shown an excellent ability to navigate the oceans, and live off food supplies in diverse kept forests for generations before making it to the Western shores of present day North America. We don't know who these people were, and where exactly they came from. 

The Americas have always been a land rich in the diversity of people, and calling people racists based on your own xenophobia only speaks further to your ignorance. Immigration now is very different from immigration 100 years ago.

What about people chanting "white power," or the KKK? What about Republicans dismantling funding for our education system? You can't blame people who aren't white for your problems forever...

yeah we can blame them since it is illigals who do work for cheap and then they have 15 children who in return get free education for most of their lives and not to include spanish is a plus you get paid more money if you know it. yes im a racist and yes i hate mexicans i think it should be a plus to know ENGLISH and a negative if you speak spanish actually what we should do is start shooting those who cross the borders in the head maybe that will stop your infestation from coming over here

What does any of this nonsense have to do with illegally sneaking into America and leaching off the taxpayers? You must really hate America to support this behavior. Truly sickening that you condone these criminals.

How about this: do you support the Peace Corps? That organization is funded by taxpayer money and helps volunteers educate people in other countries (among other things). Do you support education? What about highly skilled & educated non-Latinos trying to start their lives in America on expired Visas?

Just because someone isn't here legally doesn't mean they never pay any taxes, and whenever we invest in quality education for our young people --regardless of where they come from--  everyone benefits from the enrichment it brings to society as a whole. Unless you're a racist, in which case there is no point in trying to convince you that not white people aren't horrible.

I'm leveling the argument that undocumented immigrants are inherently bad people; financial institutions & the top 2% of wealthy people in this country have leached away far more money from the American taxpayers than undocumented immigrants have. 

Also, about your comment below - the immigration your grandparents went through was much different than how it's run now, especially for people in Mexico trying to immigrate. I don't hate America, but I'm definitely disappointed by the short shortsightedness and ignorance of some people who live here. You can choose to educate yourself or hurl insults, the latter just supports your ignorance and makes your points invalid to me.

I applaud Governor Brown and California !!! Now the illegals we are running out of Georgia have a piece of the pie. The states that encourage illegal immigration will reap what they sow, and those trying to remove them through attrition also get their wish. Unfortunately, Obama will funnel billions of dollars in federal tax money to California to fund your little Dream, instead of letting you fail on your own. I can only hope that the NEXT president(Obama has no chance in 2012) comes to Cali , rounds up all the little dreamers, and punts them back across the border.

Finally some good news for those hard working students who will fight in war for this country which is the only home they know. Brown knows that they could make a positive change to this state because this country was built for immigrants no matter if they were legal or illegal. Immigrants (legal and illegal) made this country the most powerful worldwide, so now is time to reward such hard work. Illegal immigrants are the only people who will do the work that others are too lazy to do. They pay their taxes and they got nothing back when they are retired because they do not have the “right to be here.” How come they do not say “they do not have the right to be here and we do not want their money that is being deducted in their paychecks?” Ignorance is what is making California go to bankruptcy, so in order to help California to be more competitive we need to send people to school regardless  their immigration status.

You are so full of BS, it is sickening. These parasites are here ILLEGALLY and are taking the space of an AMERICAN student, not to mention they stole 12 years of education from us taxpayers beforehand. Boycott Mexico.

What "paychecks" are they deducting taxes from? Most of your illegal pals take wages under the table. But you're ok with that, "Rodriguez." You're a racist. You will support anything your brown pals ask for.

Dear Lord help us! "hard working students who will fight in war for this country"???? Can you say NIGHTMARE ACT? Thank God I live in AZ where this s*it will never be tolerated. My "HARD WORKING"  student sons can't afford to pay tuition as it increases, and have lost construction jobs to these blood suckers. We already pay for your anchor babies, food, housing, medical care, and now you want a college education as well for free? The only thing I'm willing to give you for free is contraception and/or a bus ticket back to mexico. "ignorance" ms. rodriguez, is not understanding what the word "ILLEGAL" means. It means it is a CRIME  for these people to be here. AZ laws are starting to THANKFULLY send the scumbags right on to Cali so good luck with that!!!

Not to put too fine a point on the matter, but being in the country without proper documentation is not a crime. It may be illegal, but there is no jail time or criminal penalties attached to it. Speeding is illegal, but it won't land you in jail (on its own), so it's not criminal. Entering the country without documentation: illegal? yes; criminal? no. Simple as that.

BS, being caught sneaking in more than once is a FELONY. Get your facts straight.

No, the jail time comes from the rapists and murderers who pour out from the zoos in Tijuana and ruin the lives of American citizens then flood our prisons with pisas. If you see a rape, kidnapping, murder, etc. in your town, you can bet it's some clown with a shaved head and moustache named "Juan" or "Jose" who's here illegally.

I didn't say a word about jail time . I said that the word ILLEGAL.means just
that ILLEGAL. Last time I looked, that makes your ILLEGAL actions a crime. Are you saying that these people sneaking over our borders are not committing a crime? Please don't even answer that. I'm just glad I don't live in that State, and don't want to discuss it. On my way to work, and then SCHOOL, which I PAY FOR WITH MY LEGAL EARNINGS...........

Of course you didn't say anything about jail time. You said "crime." It's a common misconception, but it's still wrong. By the way, the typing in CAPS is just charming. I don't have to answer your question, it's rhetorical and I've already answered it. Good thing you're going to school. Might I suggest a writing course on persuasive writing.

And might I suggest that you....nevermind I won't even stoop to that. You are the one that brought up the point that something illegal doesn't necessarily entail jail time. There are plenty of crimes that don't require jail time, so what's your point about these people not committing a crime by coming into our Country illegally? I am going to lose a lot of sleep now because you don't think I'm "charmiing". Dang it. My college degree with honors speaks for itself and I'm sure that my English professors don't think I need any more specific writing courses! Sometimes you just have to use those angry caps for people like you that JUST DON'T GET IT.

Too lazy to do? I have seen illegals doing Carpentry, Plumbing, Electrical, many skilled trades taken away from LEGAL citizens. Illegal aliens are invaders, and anyone who supports them are traitors to this country.

Noticed your last name are you also an illegal? My parents came here from Europe, it wasn't easy for them but they did it legally waited and saved until they could come as law abiding people not criminals sneaking in the dead of night. I went with a friend to be sworn in as a citizen one of the proudest moments of my life. He waited 7 years for this to be final there were people from countries I never heard of all very proud and LEGAL I will never forget that day.

California is not to many years away from street wars because of what is happening here... I'm glad my kids are done with school and won't have to deal with these rejects like Moonbeam Brown (AKA "The Moron")...

Let them pay for all the illegals..I'm tired of paying their bills and medical!

They are breaking the law just by being here and they are going to give them a free ride to college now? What is wrong with these people? I'm sick of people calling them immigrants. They are illegal aliens who are breaking our law!!

If Californicators want to let illegal invaders into their boundaries, let them pay for it and not one cent of federal tax or support should they get.  let Jerry Brown stew in the mess he made and maybe califoria will fall off into the ocean.

We DON'T want them in our towns/state. But we have no say in this country since it's not a democracy. We voted SEVERAL anti-immigration laws in CA which were overturned by the CA Supreme Court. Prop 187, for example. So no, don't blame this on us. Blame it on the politicians on both sides who want easy votes and cheap, slave labor.

It is so great that people who dont pay any taxes are going to get a break on the price of schooling in a country they arent supposed to be in anyways..

hey assshole i pay taxes and im not getting what i should! my education. now pisss off

"We welcome the opening of this window of opportunity, and for the benefit of the state’s prosperity, we look forward to the approval of part two soon.” Benefit of the state's prosperity...who the fuck is she kidding...illegals aren't doing California any favors. They have bankrupted the state and the citizens are paying the price. If CA wants the illegals they can have them I sure as hell don't want them sucking my state resources dry. WE DON'T WANT YOU IN MS, STAY IN CA.IF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO SUPPORT YOU THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY GET.

It's because most Illegal Aliens (they are not immigrants) if they get a chance to vote, vote Democrat.  It's plain and simple.  Pander to those that are going to vote for you and keep you in power. CA WILL go bankrupt, in no small part due to policies such as this one.

Slap in the face to all Americans.

u mean big mexican dick slap on Lamericans faces

California is doing just about everything possible to make themselves more attractive to the ILLEGAL population, though for the life of me I can't understand why. Shouldn't they be working on attracting more business to the state and trying to help their LEGAL residents in these tough economic times instead of extending more benefits to those who have no right to them?

This is the height of irresponsibility by elected officials who are presiding over the welfare of a financially devastated state.

Think about it for a minute - The California Dream Act extends financial assistance to people who have no legal right to be inside the borders of the nation where the campuses they are attending are located.

Unfreakingbelievable! That state is so broke and they do something like this. If I lived there I would seriously think about moving. But don't come to WA state cuz we're just as bad! Any state that is Democratic is in the crapper!

WA is a a backwards state...what do you guys even do there inbreed ? raisse horses? run around the mountains.....i would never live there fuken racist states man

Ms. Salas asserts that "many states have chosen to legislate hate and division by approving anti-immigrant laws".

No, no, no, Ms. Salas.  You're attempting to perpetuate the notion that this and related issues are about "immigrants".  That is not at all the case, and you darn well know it.

It's difficult for you and your associates to let the word "illegal" pass your lips, instead softening the truth with terms like "undocumented".  Well, guess what - they are ILLEGAL immigrants, whose very presence is a violation of the law.

California no longer has a pot to pee in, yet you have the almighty gall to come up with handouts like this?

Lunacy.

The next time college students protest tuition hikes, rather of blaming the bad ol' Republicans for refusing to hike taxes, THIS is what they should be screaming and yelling about.

next time i wount protest. ill be thanking brown from now on!

This is a common misconception. There may be private scholarships/grants involved, but AB 130 also includes Board of Governors (BOG) Fee Waiver, and Institutional Student Aid: Student aid program administered by the attending college or university (i.e. State University Grant, UC Grant).

I'm just setting the facts straight as the rhetoric leans towards this being NOT using PUBLIC FUNDS, while, in fact, it does. This comes directly from CA Assemblyman Gilbert
Cedillo's DREAM Act memos:

http://as.ucsd.edu/council-old...

And as for AB 131 only being assigned to ILLEGAL ALIENS after US citizens are handled is misleading. Lori Nehzurah, Governmental Relations staff of the California Student Aid Commission, has been misquoted in perpetuating in this matter: EGPnews.com"On behalf of the California Student Aid Commission, I am requesting a correction to a quote attributed to me, Lori Nezhura, Legislative Director for the California Student Aid Commission, in the “Trying to Keep the Dream Alive” article posted on July 14, 2011.It is imperative that your readers be informed that the number of High School Entitlement Cal Grants and Transfer Entitlement Cal Grants are unlimited and available to all students meeting financial need, GPA, and other eligibility criteria. Therefore, if passed, Dream Act students will be able to receive these awards if they meet the same requirements.Conversely, the number of Competitive Cal Grants is limited. However, the bill stipulates that Dream Act students may only receive one of these awards provided funds remain after all eligible non-AB 540 California residents are awarded. Since approximately only 1 in 10 eligible applicants currently receive a Competitive Cal Grant, it is likely that there will be no fiscal impact to the State with respect to this particular program."So, where is this money supposed to come from?

I am now voting Republican on every issue and candidate so that this can be repealed and deportations en masse may start.  We have allowed ourselves to be inundated with ILLEGAL ALIENS who take our jobs, ruined our education system by catering to them, and now, have pushed out LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and US CITIZENS from receiving their entitled share of these monies.  If AB 131 passes and gets signed, I fear that many people will not wait until the next election to rectify this self-hatred californians seem to have for themselves and their own children.

Gil Cedillo is a scum bag and wants nothing more then to offer up the state to the illegal aliens. He should be shipped back right along with the rest of them

well Sir NO OFFENSE but apparently if you go to the nearest freeway exit you find an american asking for money eventhough he has a social security that could be put to good use but yet he decides to take no interest in achieving something that will benfit the country and/or himself which I believe is just insane and while the illegal immigrant is earning money by doing harsh labor that most of the AMERICAN culture can seem to be able to do/comprehend since they believe its DEGRADING but its actually earning a legit living for a family they support.

I agree with you to the fullest, it's true Americans blame hispanics for taking their jobs but yet they don't want to do the jobs that we are willing to do. It's always "they dont pay me enough," dang stop complaining about everything!

it had to be a white cracker talking ^^

Racial epithets add nothing to the discussion. Instead of helping you are hurting the cause.