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But if you cannot wait to hear, the Los Angeles Times has the scoop: Beck will lead the department, the paper says in a breaking news alert. The 32-year veteran of the force has credited with bringing back the Rampart Division and later heading up the South L.A. region.
Villaraigosa will make the official announcement from the Getty House this morning at 11 a.m. Then no time will be wasted. At 4:30 p.m., the Mayor and new Chief will hold a South LA Town Hall at the Expo Center.
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Just what Los Angeles needs. Another old white guy thats been a cop for 40 years to lead the department in a city thats mostly latino and black. Same sh*t different day. This guy will probably keep the status quo which is to keep feeding people into the California Penal System. His job is to simply keep his fellow cops employed. Public safety is the chiefs last concern. So what if 90% of the people in prison now will eventually get out. He'll do like every other chief and let someone else worry about that!!!
A far better choice than Moore, that's for sure!
LOOK AT THE STORY ON LATIMES.COM... it's not Beck... IT'S MAGNUM PI!!!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/11/charlie-beck-selected-lapd-chief.html
White, black, hispanic, or female - It does not make a difference. These low life scum bags that are ruining society are not caused by a white police chief - they are the fault of their parents.
It is easier to put blame on others but why don't we stop being f$ck heads and take resposibility. I live right up the street from where the girl was killed at the LB football game this weekend. Leave your guns at home pussies!!
That's a cop out. The parents aren't only to blame.
We don't have a proper and useful education system. Kids in bad area's of the city go to school and get a pass from teachers. Not that teachers should be babysitters, but they should stand up to the students.
And most of these kids that you are talking about have parents that work two jobs, and/or are 1 parent households. What do the kids do after school? Go home or hang out with other kids and that can lead to trouble. There are very few school provided after school programs from elementary school children.
You have to start young.
If you want a better society, cleaner streets, etc., the city govt has to be prepared to do more than send in cops to whip ass. There needs to be an infrastrucutre to offer support and better education and more useful govt programs.
And let's say worst case, the parents are drug addicts or criminals themselves, how do you think the child will be raised? The cycle keeps going until there is a proper level of support and a real mechanism to provide an alternative life style.
Excellent reply trojan2002. I cant agree with you more. I work full time and make just above the median national average and I cant afford to live in a good area. My wife is in college full tome to become a nurse so that we can boost our income. When I got married she worked as a clerk for $11 and hour. I told her that wasnt gonna cut it. She is in school full time and getting good grades but with a young son things are tight. We are talking skin on your teeth tight. I couldnt imagine having a grown teenager or two to deal with. We would not be able to continue to live in Los Angeles without her degree providing the much needed income boost.
I have the deepest sympathy for the families working to keep a roof over their heads in this economy. Teenagers with alot of time in a city the size of Los Angeles is a recipe for trouble.
Good comment trojie. If I didn't know better I'd think that was a response from a liberal.
The only downside is; Where do you raise the money to pay for those suggestions?
Congrats to Charile. Charlie's dad, George Beck used to be on the board of directors at Angels Gate Cultural Center, where I work, and was one of the most thoughtful, involved members of that board, and a person of impeccable character. If Charlie's anything like his father, the LAPD is in good hands.
Fun Beck family fact. Charlie's mom, who I believe is in her 80's is a leading powerlifter in her age division.
If you can barely take care of yourself, don't have an f'n kid. Simple.
Trojan2002 - I hear ya. 1) bad schools - let's give the poor more options by passing a school voucher program. More choices. 2) I was a latch key kid my whole life, I had morals and knew right from wrong - never got in trouble. 3) let's get into after school programs - I am sorry that MY tax dollars don't provide for enough baby sitting. 4) how about kids having kids? Are you telling me that is not a parental issue?
If say no to #4, no wonder a socialis got elected to the presidency. God help us all!!!
This is a topic that is going on 20 years and nothing has changed because no one wants to stop the cycle.
What I'm saying the cycle needs to stop. Cut it off.
Voucher programs are a good start.
You talk about tax dollars and after school programs... I'd rather have my tax dollars go to after school programs, early learning programs, parental education classes, and other community social improvement programs, where positive contributions can be made, RATHER than having the state spend $40K/year to keep a person in jail.
Right now you're tax dollars are being wasted paying for people in jail because those indiviudals, for the most part, will not contribute to society and replenish the tax dollars they cost.
This isn't a political issue anymore, if it continues to be then nothing will ever get solved.
Elected officials are slaves to their donors, and unless the people step up and demand for the cycle to stop, it will go on FOREVER. Like I said, 20 years and still the same arguments, still the tactics, still the same results.
Ericlb, lay off the socialist crap. The pukes like Rush Limbaugh like to use the law of big numbers to their favor. You want to sound fiscal policy? Kewl. The first thing I would cut would be the FAA. I would keep the rules in place but cut funding to zero. This would cause Rush Limbaugh to have to pay for all the air traffic controllers and other services when he flys around the country looking for oxycontin. There is no reason 90% of the population needs to offset the cost of air travel when people like Rush can afford its REAL cost.
While we are at it, lets cut FCC and FDA while we are at it.
That socialist crap is just . .its crap. Without a government taking an active position you end up like Mexico.
Instead of using labels that you obviously dont know much about you should try to explain where was Haliburton in WWI and WWII. I'd love to hear why you are okay with Dick "I dodged the draft 5 times" Cheney is now getting a deferred salary from a company that profits from America going to war.
Take your time and respond in detail.
Socialist and fascist are terms that have been thrown around too much in the last 9 years.
I personally believe Bush and Cheney were great for the time they were in office, and Obama still has to prove himself.
The government is suppose to set the rules and regulate the game. They are not supposed to be actively involved or pushing one agenda over another.
That happened in the Bush years, and it's happening now.
Government agencies are being used by the WH to push an agenda, and making the playing field unfair for some parties.
FHA is a failure because congress has been too involved.
Look at the Cal national bank that failed on friday, their holding company went out because Fannie and Freddie preferred shares became worhtless, shares backed by the govt via congress and specifically Barney Frank.
The govt picked winners and losers.
That's not what the role of the govt is suppose to be. Elected officials should NOT be trusted to pick winners or losers for anything.
I agree. 1) legalize drugs and let's start eliminating gangs 2) any left over gang members who do not take legalization of drugs as a hint to get a new day job - let's ship their entire families (I am sorry to say but gangs are a generational problem, so this includes gradmas, sons, daughters and grandkids) to some remote island in the middle of the ocean. This can be their new turf to fight over.
Trojan2002, we already contribute to aftershchool programs to deter kids from gangs and they have not worked. You said we have been at this for over 20 years - more now 30 years.
The real problem is summed up when they put to death the guy who started the whole real gang thing in la in the late '70s. He wrote kids books in jail (or at least his lawyer/girlfriend did) - when they executed the guy, the community (South LA, Central LA, whatever it is called) said that it is an injustice to execute him and that he changed is life and is good for the community. This dude destroyed thousands / millions of lives. When he broke into a home and shot a guy with a shotgun - he was really a contribution member of society.
I say we keep building prisons because these A-holes are never, ever going to stop. EVER!!! We can let the pot smokers out but these hard core guys - they should enter but never leave. And if they disappear the minute they walk-in, who cares.
"I say we keep building prisons because these A-holes are never, ever going to stop. EVER!!! We can let the pot smokers out but these hard core guys - they should enter but never leave. And if they disappear the minute they walk-in, who cares."
OK... What about their kids?
You totally miss my point about stopping the cycle.
we've been building prisons and locking away the "hard core" folks like you want... and? nothing has changed.
I'm not arguing against you.
I'm saying there's more to it than locking people away, there's more today's ganng and youth criminality than parents.
Yeah, we have after school programs that have been underfunded and are usually the first to be hit when it comes to budget constraints.
And, legalizing drugs won't solve anything. It will cost the government more. But keep pushing for it. There's something morally wrong about a govt collecting taxes on the vices of people.
I'm sure there's a line of people looking to hire people with a pot addiction. And when it's legal, the pot heads can smoke all day and be high all day. Yeah, sounds like a great idea to me.
LADaddy- I have no idea why you brought up the FAA, FCC or anything else. Your comments don't make sense.
Let's get rid of FAA and charge on per flight basis. I am willing to pay my share as i fly. You are smarter than I thought.
Let's get rid of the FCC too!!! That way The Fairness Doctrine or what entity (community action groups set up by the FCC) it takes, does not ever come back. If liberal's can't make for good talk radio - not my problem.
Let's do everything "A La Mode" style. Let's pay taxes on what we spend, not make. Let me get taxed on things i use and not on things i don't, public schools.
My Consitution does not give the governent the right to pay for everything for everyone, does not give the right for the government to mandate that I have health insurance. The only thing the Constitution mandates the government to do is protect us from enemy lands (ask Dick Cheney about this one.)
And one thing about this socialist crap as you call it. If Obama-care passes, here is my scenario I opt out of insurance, pay $2000 (round up from $1850) fine and if I get sick, the government pays for it. This will be much easier and cheaper than to pay the $3000 tax i am looking at for my healthcare + increased costs. I have employer paid health insurance - how is Obama-care better for me? And the 45 million without insurance is BS. It is more like 10-15 million - we can solve this problem using other reforms strategies.
And one last thing that will annoy me till the day I die, why do I hear "I can't pay for college!!" GET A LOAN MORONS. I have 17 more years of payments on my school loans but it is the best investment that I could ever made.
Let me help you out ERIC...
you pay for the FAA, FCC, FDA, and public schools because it's better for you that the govt regulates and provides those services.
public school create more educated and working people so you don't have to build even more prisons.
FAA is paid for by airlines who collect only a fraction of the cost from fliers.
FCC, fairness doctrine will never happen because supreme court would stop it. But the FCC exists so that kids don't see porn on tv on saturday morning cartoons.
FDA exists so the ecoli in the ground beef doesn't kill more than 2 people.
Do you want me to list the benefits of all the govt regulation agencies?
And not everyone can qualify for a student loan.
And in fact, right now, student loans are harder to get than ever. But that's because the govt essentially took over the student loan programs this year.
You guys are living a dream if you think more social programs for kids are going to work. I grew up during the 30 year trial that they have experimenting with and it has FAILED. Every day more gang members. It is generational. The only way to stop the cycle is if you remove it from society.
I don't any other way. Your programs have not helped. The fear of prison has not worked. Fear of death has not worked. Society needs to wake up. I work in Santa Ana - they just keep killing each down here.
And in la, blacks keep killing blacks. Please explain that one for me.
I am sure white chief or lack of money is always easy to blame.
You're right.
You just tell us who we should just kill off!
Like Minority report.
How does that sound?
You are right! I know it is wrong and can't be done. That is what is so sad, there is no solution! It is a lost war along with the drug war and it should be realized. Then we throw the old book out and start new.
My answer is I am planning on moving from the greatest city and state there is. Not to say I won't come back but the time is coming to leave. Gangs is only a very small part of that choice - just wait to see how bad things can get when jobs continue to flee the state. If health care passes with cap and tax and California cap and tax taxes, there will be no more manufacturing jobs in California. It is going to be really bad and violence is going to skyrocket.
I only wish a Geany with three wishes in a bottle really existed. Peace Eric
Hey assholes, this post was about Charlie Beck and not about your shitty political agendas.
Congrats to Chief Beck. He sounds like the right man for the job.
Hey Deepfry, not to start shit with you or anything, but I like debate and political discussion, (even if it gets off topic).
If the discussion doesn't suit you, you have this thing called a scroll button.
Personally I think more political discussion from every viewpoint makes us a better democracy, and a more informed, involved electorate.
JMO