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An anonymous Craigslist rant takes on the hateful nature of Los Angeles--especially the tony Brentwood--and asks that all the haters leave: "If you wanna stay be fucking nice," she exclaims. In fact, she's so fed up, she's going out of her way to get revenge. It's amusing. "Everyone in this city mistreats eachother, its disgusting. It doesnt matter what color they are, they are dicks. In fact, I make a point now of going into places like Brentwood, where the people are the fucking rudest, most self-important assholes ever, and I like to stroll through the market aisles, take my time parking, fiddle in my purse for my wallet...its fucking juvenile, but I definitely take my sweet ass time crossing the street when its my right of way. These people need to be shamed." What do you think? Is Los Angeles a mean town or just as mean as any city?
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Los Angeles is a hateful place... (everybody GET OUT) Date: 2009-08-04, 7:26PM PDTI love my city, I was born and raised here. I never ever understood what people meant when I'd travel and they'd pucker their faces at me when I said where I was from. I was fucking proud. It's a great city, with beautiful weather, oceans, nightlife, music, mountains, green! I never really got it. NOW I DO.
In the last couple of years or so I've noticed that this is the fucking rudest city in the U.S. I've traveled to NYC plenty of times, nope its us, hands down. Just in my day today, I've encountered several assholes, who were tailgating, honking, giving the finger. Man what's the hurry? Leave a little bit earlier...One cunt had the nerve to stare me down when we got out of our cars in the same lot, like we were gonna fight or something lol. When we met at the elevator, she was a little different. See, I may look a little tough, but Im the fucking nicest chic you'll ever meet. I smile all the time at people, make conversation (not intrusive and in personal space, just friendly), and I do what I can to let people in front of me in cars, let pedestrians have the right of way, let old people go first, hold the door for people, say thank you and please...what the fuck is hard about that? I told this woman who was about to take off, that she left her coffee on the roof of her car, and she looked like she might faint, she thanked me like 1000 times. This just seems normal, not heroic or anything.
Everyone in this city mistreats eachother, its disgusting. It doesnt matter what color they are, they are dicks. In fact, I make a point now of going into places like Brentwood, where the people are the fucking rudest, most self-important assholes ever, and I like to stroll through the market aisles, take my time parking, fiddle in my purse for my wallet...its fucking juvenile, but I definitely take my sweet ass time crossing the street when its my right of way. These people need to be shamed.
I've realized that growing up here, I didnt deal with this bullshit at all. Because I was surrounded by others who grew up here, so this leads me to believe that is the endless amounts of foreigners, domestic or international that have turned this city to shit. And btw, I dont hate on the rich, but why are they the fucking biggest assholes here? Why is it that in the richer neighborhoods, the people are so irritating and self righteous? Seriously, spend a minnte talking to the people who have to work in these neighborhoods and they will tell you that its one humiliating experience after another. Then a nice person goes to the establishment and the worker hates you. When Im nice to people, let's say at Peets Coffee in Brentwood, I get like free cookies. Its not because theyre so nice, its because IM so nice, thats the shit they have to deal with all day.
Please dont tell me to leave or get out. This is MY city, I belong here. If you wanna stay be fucking nice...
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Oh STFU.
LA's harsh - the instant a person figures out they can't "use" you for something,the viper smiles evaporate.
It's like people are so jaded and fake, most are aping like they're famous *and* the CEO of Google.
Scant, stumbled upon intelligent words are golden in such an environment.
I would've thought that by the 2nd paragraph of her screed, she'd have been able to remove the sand from her vagina.
ummm, i think she forgot:
juvenile hubris saturated smug
is somehow mistakenly deified as the god's gift
to the desecration of clever's grave.
It's true everyone abuses everyone in this city. The reason? The car.
Traffic sucks, everyone trying to get everywhere at once on streets designed and built in the 1950's.
Try mass transit. People on the trains and buses are polite. People on bicycles wave at each other or give the customary nod. Pedestrians even smile when you pass by.
Get rid of the cars, you get rid of the asshole behavior.
Everyone in this city is nice...until they get behind the wheel.
You've obviously never been to New York, Boston or Chicago.
I have been. People there are nasty whether they are in a car or a train. Must be the cold weather or the lack of sunshine.
LA is not like that, take people out of the frustrating traffic jams and they are relatively nice. Maybe a little neurotic and bipolar, but with medication or a few cocktails (or both) they are happy.
While I agree automobile dependence makes for a lot of the worst aggro behavior, plenty of people are ass holes regardless of transit mode. I've had several occasions where a fellow cyclist cursed at me for things like oh pointing out they should not be riding the wrong way in the bike lane right at me.
Hateful and mean ....No
Self-important assholes ....Absolutely
I AGREE. People in Brentwood are the f'n worst. They have NO idea that other people are even around. Go hang out in douche central around Lincoln and Montana sometime and try to avoid walking in circles to get around these people on the sidewalk. I've had it, I'm walking straight into Ed Hardy and his grandmother from now on.
no freaking doubt.
Lincoln and Montana is the closest thing smiley face hell on earth.
if you're monied up
or hot enough to be a "slumming it" lay
for the aristocracy you'll do just fine.
but anything else- you are not even treated as human - not just by the transplants, but by plenty of townies as well.
Don Ed Hardy's a nice guy who may never have been on Montana before. Christian Audigier is another story.
At least she doesnt mention being told "Lets do lunch!"
The one thing that does irritate me is when I smile, nod and say, "good morning" to someone and they either...
a) Give you that strange "why are you talking to me?" look
b) Pull out their earphones and go "huh?....whaaa???"
c) Ignore you altogether
I've noticed that black people are usually the best at reciprocating my greetings but I suspect that many of them, like me, have southern roots and mannerisms.
this totally made my day. :-)
Wow when did Santa Monica become Brentwood? Lincoln and Montana is not in Brentwood but I do agree that some of my neighbors have NO idea that other people are even around. Then again up at San Vicente and Westgate I have meet some very nice people that live and work here.
It's the whole area Specky, let's not go crazy.
I think evryone commenting missed the point of this rant big time. She IS A NATIVE. As am I. She GREW UP HERE. As did I. Its all the transplants and young upper class spoiled Real World cast member wannabees that make L.A. traffic congested and rude.Los Angeles needs to have its own limits on how many people a year can migrate here.
I couldn't agree more.
Where do I sign the petition!
sorry somehow this went to the wrong comment.
"Generally speaking," I've actually viewed Brentwood in about the same light. I don't mean to solidify stereotypes but I've found even the elderly (there are a lot) in Brentwood are rude; my only conclusion can be the money and probably cars like mentioned above. Definitely sense an air of entitlement - even for LA - whenever I'm in the area. It's like the area is too pretty and green and the people feel it's their duty to counteract that with an concocted, artificial air of a Rat Race.
have to agree that generally speaking folks who grew up here are much nicer and more polite than transplants. is that because of the ridiculous amount of people who came here to "make it?" the last thing LA needs is another reality TV star candidate. stay in iowa, please! i have great friends and i love this city. i defend her loudly and often, but i see her flaws. i do my best to avoid places that attract the element that give LA a bad name (ed hardy, casting calls, robertson, sunset strip, any sbe joint, pink berry).
This is why I take great enjoyment in seducing the wives of the pompous and banal, Ladies and gentleman I give you the upper crust of American society, self adsorbed , self important , and trapped in the self constructed prisons known as exclusive neighborhoods.
I've lived in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco. San Francisco was by the far the worst in terms of rude, selfish, self absorbed people.
SF? really?
Having lived there myself, I couldnt agree with that one.
i can't either. i grew up in east LA and moved the SF in july 1999. i was SHOCKED how friendly folks were throughout the 6 years i lived there.
i moved back to los angeles in august 2005 and was reminded how unfriendly and straight up RUDE folks are down here.
It comes down to manners like she mentioned..and frankly the greater percentage of people don't have a shred to their name. Sadly, LA has been flooded even moreso with the flash-in-the-pan wannabe actors lately..and like a bad math problem, money + no manners = fail
Most of my best friends also live in LA..there are amazing people here. I think that this CL lady making it a point to piss people off even further doesnt help though. You can't swim across a fucking river with your hands clenched as fists.
i'm a moron. ^^ was supposed to be a response to the main thread :D
SF ruder than LA??? Wow, that's the first I've ever heard that one. Having lived in both places, I found SF strangers to be some of the nicest city-dwellers I've ever met. To me, there isn't even a comparison, especially when it comes to Brentwood. The sheer volume of per-capita rudeness there can't be touched.
i would have to agree that rich people make for the rudest drivers.. can't tell you how many times i've seen really reckless assholes careening around in their bentleys and bmws on the windy roads near bel air on my way to ucla..
Los Angeles is riddled with transplants from iowa, ohio, nebraska, michigan and the list goes on and on.
if you are one of these people please know that you are ruining our city and kindly go back because you're not going to "make it". you come here believing that you need to act a certain way, wear certain clothes and be someone your not. without a doubt you are the main contributor to our rude, ego-centric, lifeless and selfish environment.
buy a bum a cookie will ya....
Our task is to behave well because it's the right thing to do, without expectation of receiving the same in return. Fortunately, in the aggregate, people will treat you as you treat them.
Make it a nice day.
This is sooo true! People in LA are mean. Even worse in Brentwood! Word up to this girl. She really tells it like it is.
Generalize much?
Don't forget, it's also the assholes in those "upper-class" neighborhoods that inhibited the extension of the redline to the sea because it may just ruin the gentrification of their neighborhoods. Let's generalize, there are some great people there, but many are incredibily rude; I say fuck em'.
whoops, I meant let's *not generalize.
As a former resident of Brentwood, I couldn't disagree with this post more. I found very rarely that people were rude to me when they were valet parking my Lexus or making me coffee at Starbucks on Barrington/SanVicente. All of my friends from back home in Connecticut agree, whenever we hit Hollywood and Highland and bought bottle service, the waitresses were always quite pleasant. So not sure what all the hubbub is about.
This lady is right on with her observations, and Brentwood is unbearable and always has been!
I think one of the problems with people here is that they don't see themselves as Angelenos, but as members of a specific group, ie. white, black, rich, poor, gay, straight, old, young, etc. There isn't a sense of being considerate of those you share the city with because they are often seen as the "other", not members of a community.
For example, today I got into it with my neighbor when I politely asked her if she could request that her daughter not play and yell RIGHT under my window. She looked at me like I was crazy, shrugged her shoulders rudely, and told me that she couldn't tell her daughter what not to do (huh??). I'm pretty sure it had more than a little to do with the fact the I'm white and she is Latina and has lived in the neighborhood much longer than me. I just wish people could understand that we all have to share the city and it's really easier for everyone if people can be NICE.
Nothing to do with LA or race im afraid. You broke a cardinal social rule.
"Thou shalt not tell lazy parent how to treat their kids"
You might as well have told her to drown her child for all the consideration your request was given.
Happy Friday!
Sadly, this is 100% true and Brentwood is BY FAR the rudest, nastiest place I've ever seen in America. No hyperbole at all either -- It's got NYC beat by a mile. Underneath the posh lawns is a level of narcissism that boggles the mind.
Ask anyone who rides a bike here regularly and they'll tell you -- instantly -- that Brentwood is the most dangerous place to ride a bike or be a pedestrian in LA.