Up to 10,000 Teachers Expected to Protest Today in Downtown

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UTLA at a 2006 immigration rally | Photo by AmandaLeighPanda via Flickr

Watch out, downtown traffic. The United Teacher of Los Angeles will be holding an afternoon protest and march over education budget cuts.

"California’s budget situation is grim, and LAUSD faces hundreds of millions in cuts on top of $400 million cuts already made," a UTLA protest flyer reads. "LAUSD could try getting rid of the consultants who cost hundreds of millions a year, or maybe rethink fancy construction projects and boutique schools, or even stop throwing money at disasters such as the new payroll system. But no thanks, they’d rather cut teachers’ health care benefits, cut teachers’ salaries, lay off teachers and increase class size."

The protest begins at 3:30 p.m. at LAUSD's headquarters on Beaudry followed by a march to Pershing Square at 4 p.m. where they'll rally until 5:30 p.m. when they move back to the streets on their way to the State Building on Spring st. "We're gonna close down the streets," UTLA Secretary Betty Forrester said. "This is where we draw the line."

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Jesus Christ, why are those people carrying a Mexican flag?

Because this foto is from an immigration march (May 1st)

The sign is predominantly in Spanish. We should copy this and distribute it to English classrooms throughout the district with an assigned writing task:

"Understanding the Delights of Irony."

Teachers are an integral part of our society. Good educators are crucial and good schools for them to teach in are necessary to advance our culture from industry to the arts to agriculture and science.

Until teachers are required to work year round at bettering the community, their students lives and the school districts they teach in I will not support these teachers unions. They need to make more of a commitment to our students before making issue out of budgets.

They sound like Republicans on the Hill bashing easy targets such as improved schools and payroll technology. They should be looking at their own deficiencies and proposing solutions.

Don't teachers work at bettering the community by providing instruction to the students who will become productive members of the community? Aren't schools by definition part of a community's infrastructure?

Unions aren't bashing payroll soltions (an expensive exercise that tanked big time thanks to LAUSD's infinite bureaucracy and antiquated methods of doing business) they are questioning why so much money is being funnelled out of teacher's paychecks and schools and programs.

Call me old-fashioned, but the teachers' primary job is to educate. All this "community-building" needs to be done at the home level. Teachers are drastically underpaid because society expects them to shape children as citizens. That's the parents' job to do. You know who's drastically overpaid? School administrators. Their salaries and bonuses continue to rise while the teachers get the bum deal even though they do all the dirty work.

Van Halen "Hot For Teacher" is playing in my head right now.

How much do LAUSD teachers get paid?

It's public knowledge and Daily News made if very public with this database:

http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/lausdpayroll/

NVM, found it.

For 9 months of work a 1st year teacher gets paid $39K.
More tenured teachers make over $75K.

And that's for 9 MONTHS.

They get paid just about right.

Maybe if the union took less.

Quit your bitching teachers, people who get paid LESS than you, and work all YEAR, are losing their jobs.

trojan2002 you have so little respect for educators and the educational system--I find it shocking.

Teachers who work on a traditional school calendar do, in fact, have employment for 9 months of the year. Most do some sort of school-related work (particularly if they are lower on the proverbial totem pole or lack the seniority that veteran teachers at a higher pay rate have) during their off months in order to meet their monthly obligations (oh, you know, rent/mortgage, gas, food, families, etc) that DON'T GO AWAY during those months. Of course, they can always put all their skills and education to use June-August working as baristas or something--or compete for jobs that, as you so eloquently pointed out--are harder and harder to come by. So while some (not all) work a few months of the year, they still need income to function all 12 months. Take $39k and divide it by 12: That's $3,250 a month before taxes. For a job that you do 5 days a week, often for far longer than 8 hours a day (not including prep time, grading time, and, these days, time procuring and paying for out of your own pocket supplies for your classroom) and that you went to at least 4 years of university plus a credentialing program (that you're probably footing the bill for still via monthly student loan payments) and doing a job that gets increasingly harder because you have more students and less resources and less support from your own district, as well as the fear of losing your job--I think teachers have a right to "bitch" about the way they are treated in society and by the district and the state government.

Know how a teacher gets to make $75k? They put in years and years of hard work. They also earn "ranking" by attending (and paying for) additional courses and workshops.

Oh, and what do teachers do that's kind of important in this day and age? Gosh, I don't know... maybe they educate children (and adults) to read, write, calculate, research, socialize, create, analyze, and so on in the hopes they leave the school system prepared for college, a job, and a productive role in society. But, yeah, no big deal. Let's not allow them to express their anger and frustration at seeing their livelihood on the line thanks to the state budget and poor choices of the bureaucratics in charge (many of whom, incidentally, have and will continue to lose their jobs, too).

Trojan2002 once again chimes in with a ridiculous and completely uninformed opinion.

As the commenter above pointed out, that income is spread over the whole year! It's not much for a job that requires that you rise at 6am every day, be 100% mentally present and alert, essentially perform in front a group for 6 hours, try to impart knowledge to 30+ kids while also trying to keep their attention and discipline them, them go home and work on the lesson plan/grade papers for however long is required, go to sleep by 10pm (or whatever) and wake up the next morning to do it again. That is one of the most demending jobs I can think of (and I've worked a lot of jobs)and I have a tremendous amount of respect for anyone who does it, and does it well.

LAUSD is shooting themselves in the foot by decreasing the incentive to become a teacher, thereby insuring that the higher quality candidates will look elsewhere. It's mismanagement and it's not fair to the children of Los Angeles.

And no, I'm not a teacher. Didn't feel like going to school for 3 years to get my credential.

yes I make ridiculous comments. Fact is, in person and online, I have the balls to say what people are scared of saying.

I hold teachers in high regard. I am impressed by teachers. I think they’re a true gift to our society. I believe it takes a lot to walk away from jobs that could pay you 2-3 times more, just to become a teacher.

having said that, if you want to get paid more than what teachers get paid don't become a teacher.

Lindsey... $3200 spread over 12 months is more than what MOST people make!
YES, they work long hours, and maybe the long hours add up to a 40hr work week for 50weeks a year.

But they still get paid more than what MOST people do.
On top of that, they have great benefits. And unless they molest a child, its hard to get fired from the district.

Should they get paid more?

Everyone deserves to be paid more. Everyone!

But the economics aren't there right now.

The KNOWN unemployment in CA is 9.3%, real unemployment is a lot higher. SO you want to get paid more, or no they want to work less. Whatever it is, now is not the time to bitch about it.

NO ONE IS MAKING THEM (YOU- Lindsey) be a teacher. Don't like the pay, don't like the hours, don't like the 9 months work schedule with permanent employment and incredible benefits, then FIND A NEW JOB.

I'm sure there are a lot of Angelinos that would jump at the chance to be employed by the LAUSD with terms from 10 years ago, let alone today.

Teachers follow the lead of the UTLA who doesn't care about the teachers, they care about their bottom line, and how much money they can use to lobby and win over politicians.

Cajones perhaps trojie, just not much cranium.

$75K sounds like a lot but you act like all teachers are going to get that much after their first year. I think it probably takes a few years not earning much more than $40K before they get the "big bucks", and since $75K is the upper limit to what they can ever expect to earn, that seems rath paltry you one considers how much college it takes to become a teacher. For that kind of money their college time would have been better spent getting a juris doctorate. I know people with JDs that make over $100K, and didn't even pass the bar.

Teachers deserve better. We should all have decent health care. No one should have to spend their first 10 years of employment paying off student loans.

But hey what do I know? I'm just a socialist tool.

Thank you, jrb.

trojan2002, it doesn't take "balls" to make unqualified claims. It just takes, well, lack of insight, to put it politely.

$39k A YEAR is not more that what "most people" with 4 years of university and an additional 1-3 year credentialing program's worth of post-secondary education earn. It is probably more than a retail store manager, dishwasher, food service worker, and so on make. It's certainly far less than what many professionals make. And, again, the $75 isn't like a magic rate you make after ten years. Also, your job is NOT guaranteed. Do you know that if a senior-ranking district-level administrator (who has been out of the classroom for probably several years, maybe decades) can take a low-ranking teacher's job away from them? Is that job security?

I agree with you that many people need to be paid more in this society. But this is NOT what UTLA is protesting. They are protesting potential JOB CUTS, PAY CUTS, BENEFITS LOST and so on as a part of HUGE BUDGET CUTS. They are not asking for more. They are asking to get to keep what they have and for the state to not make their jobs HARDER by giving them more students to educate day after day. No one is protesting the "9 months work schedule" you seem to have idealized (again, that's 9 months of pay you must spread over 12 unless you take on a temporary job). You keep pointing out how times are tough, but your solution for teachers who are worried they might lose their job or pay (or possibility of raises, or have harder working circumstances) is somehow for them to just GO GET ANOTHER JOB? Where are these jobs? What kind of job do you suggest someone who has spent 5-7 years training to teach go do? What pay would they expect at entry level?

No one is making me be a teacher. And, technically, for the record, I'm not a teacher. I'm a Part-time Faculty Lecturer at a 4-year university. I have a Master's, and the debt to prove it. I have a contract for this magical "9 months" of work, but NO job security--I could very well have NO WORK any given quarter. No work=no pay. To make my ends meet, on top of teaching English to 75 different students every 10 weeks, I have a second job. I work 6 days a week. And I make, incidentally, LESS THAN an LAUSD teacher; I don't teach at that level because it doesn't appeal to me for many reasons. Don't even get me started on what the California education budget cuts mean for me in my profession.

It's funny that you say I lack insight, because I UNDERSTAND what you are saying, I accept what you are saying, but you can't accept or understand what I am saying.
You may not lack insight, but you do lack the ability accept that NOT everyone will agree with you.

It sounds very elitist when you say that people with 4 year degrees, and 1-3 years of certificates should be making more than $39K per year.
If that's the case, don't become a teacher. Problem solved.

39K is where you start! Not where you are for life. On top of the 39K for only 9 months work teachers get a pension plan that makes the mouths of the UAW drool!
In essence, that 39K is more. Just like any other job, you earn less gain experience then you get the big bucks.

Lindsey i think i've mentioned to you before, since you're a non tenure univ teacher I do know how hard that can be.

But, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the LAUSD teachers. Yeah they can get demoted, but NOT fired.

Where are the jobs!? That's a good question, if they wait 2-3 years the "stimulus" will create them.

No but in seriousness, the LAUSD already approved the plan to cut upwards of 3200 non union, part time teachers. And they have to make even more in cuts.

they teachers say NO and you say no. What's the alternative to making cuts when the economy is as bad as it is?
CA, if they don't raise taxes now, economically can't and shouldn't raise taxes for another 2 years. If that's your alternative, I'm letting you know it won't work.

There's a $43B deficit that will get worse.

And were now only days away from CA cities and municipalities having their BOND grades dropped. Why? Because they are the microcosms of the state. If the state is in poor condition so are the cities. What does that mean? It gets more expensive for the municipalities to get loans, it becomes more expensive to sell the unsold approved bonds.
Perspective, IT'S CHEAPER TO INSURE MEXICO BONDS THAT CA BONDS!!!
Increase taxes right now, and we'll see more job losses, less consumer spending, less growth. All that equals less REVENUE.

This state has had poor budget handling over the last 15 years and now the atom bomb has arrived.

So sorry, teachers and the UTLA can't avoid the inevitable.

Cuts are coming. Layoffs are coming.

don't like it... go to the unemployment line and wait for the next wave of jobs.

Like I said, there are millions of people that are willing to fill your shoes.


No she was just joking, just to hide the fact that she can not understand what you are saying.

You are absolutely right, there are millions of people that are willing to fill the shoes of these teachers who want to strike.

When real estate prices adjust, prices decline, the jobs that are inflated will adjust also. Basic economics people. You want lower prices, then you get lower wages, and lower wages mean less taxes, and that means cuts and lay-offs.

You might want to consider that you are trying to speak reason and facts, to a group that are likely products of LAUSD and are demonstrations of this failed school system. No wonder these teachers who are about to be laid-off okayed the donation of $1.3 million to the No on 8 campaign. Seems like poetic justice.

Since this is about the curriculum and how money is being spent and allocated. Allocation for political agendas and sex education, when students need more time being taught the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic, is a core issue.

To Lindsay: It is all politics and if you don't understand this fact, the joke is you.

Suggesting that people become teachers to just... er... "teach" is probably the last motivating factor in becoming an educator. I believe educators choose their profession because they want to mold younger generations to better society. Teachers ARE expected to be "community-builders." So are parents, your neighbors, city workers, everyone.

For the most part people choose that profession because that is what they think they can do. They do it for pay, if not then they can always volunteer.

You can write a book if you just want to mold.

Who declared to this person that they were some how good at teaching 1st graders and to another that they were best suited to teacher 12th graders.

Although, sometimes this turns out to be a good fit, often like most jobs, it is BAD FIT. Some teachers do not need to be around children.

Any teacher who thinks that they need to bring a GUN to school, is in the wrong profession. If they think that or do that, they need to get out. What, they are inspired to teach the child, then shoot her because they are afraid. Sounds like they are protecting that $39k they claim is too little.

Oh for politcal correctness. Hog wash. These California Teachers voted to have $1.3 million donated to the No on 8 campaign and had the time to go out and campaign for a boys sexual desire to have his anal sex memorilized in a marriage. Nothing to do with school and our children.

For the most part they suck as educators and they also think they have the time to advise our little girls on abortion. Eduction? Butt out.

$39k for 9 months of work and three months vacation. Overpaid for most. Write a book during that three months. See how much your thoughts are worth, by the book sales. Not much.

You said it best, when it comes to your "take" on the issue: Nothing to do with school and our children.

Sexual desire, anal sex, who people marry, and abortions: Not subjects taught in school.

Also, I'm guessing you haven't been enrolled in the classroom of all of the thousands of teachers employed by the LAUSD, so "they suck as educators" is a grossly unfair and over-generalized (not to mention rude and inappropriate) rationalization.

I'm not going to break down the $39k A YEAR salary again. Some students cannot be taught, it seems.

You said "Sexual desire, anal sex, who people marry, and abortions: Not subjects taught in school." You conveniently left out that the California Teachers Assn spent $1.3 million on the No on 8 campaign and Jack O'Connell had time to campaign along with other all so busy teachers. By the way, you are wrong, these things are taught in sex ed classes and health classes and are often general conversation led by a liberal politically motivated teacher.

You conveninetly left out where I said "For the most part". If this were not true, then we would not have education issues, and since we have the ability to rank the performance of these teachers with other states, yes For the most part they suck as teachers.

If you get part customer service from your phone company, you say they sucked at their job, if your contractor does a bad job you say he sucked at his job and might even sue, but because you are obtuse you say it can't be said of these teachers who are capable of being cusotmers service reps and contractors.

"Some students can't be taught." What a cop out. That is rude and grossly unfair. Try this the teachers that they encountered could not adjust their educational format to accomodate these students and the students who excelled spent a lot of time at home on their own.

For your reference, I was an Educational Learning Instructor. I taught these students who youclaim can't learn, brought C-students to A-students and F-students to B-students and I also taught teachers how to INSTRUCT. If teachers were paid by their performance, then most of them would get paid less. The ones who perform at higher levels usually go on to higher learning and higher instruction.

Do you actually think that a 5th grade Math teacher has the same teaching ability as Undergraduate professor at UCLA or Cal Tech?

When I said "some students can't be taught" I was making a joke at your expense.

I don't believe I equated the skills or ability of an elementary school teacher with a professor anywhere in my discussion so I'm not sure why that's being asked. I would hope they were equally qualified and trained for their respective positions, but I don't imagine them to be interchangable.

Some people are not good at their jobs, that is true. That doesn't give anyone the right to overgeneralize in an argument that one or a few incompentent teachers stands for the whole.

Again, this isn't about Prop 8 or the curriculum of sex education, or how we differ on our understanding of its curriculum or the politics (irrelevant) of the instructors helming the course (which parents have a right to keep their children out of if they object).

Me thinks the boy doth protest gayness too much Lindsay.

Yea, it sounds like 'ol ts took the Ted Haggard "Jesus Cure" and learned how to self-hate.

Whud they do to you ts? Bible scripture 18 hours a day, self flagulation for having carnal thoughts, and OH GOD FORBID THINKING ABOUT DEVIANT SEXUAL ACTS LIKE A HOMASEXSHUL!!!

If anybody needs a pay cut it is the school administrators. They do less work, are often out of touch with the needs of students, and get paid way more. If we want to attract smart people to teach our future generations they need to be compensated well.

Pay cuts if they have to happen should go top down not bottom up. My principle in high school was hated by students, loathed by teachers and blew lots of money on spending that was out of touch with what teachers and students actually needed or wanted, while cutting programs people did care about in the same stroke, but some how that jerk wad got to make way more money then any one else at the school.

^^^^Ignore.

Trojan, allow me to point out a flaw in your arguement;
"NO ONE IS MAKING THEM (YOU- Lindsey) be a teacher. Don't like the pay, don't like the hours, don't like the 9 months work schedule with permanent employment and incredible benefits, then FIND A NEW JOB."

This is exactly my point, and the point that JRB was making. If there isn't an INCENTIVE to spend 6-8 years in school, then many people simply won't become teachers, even though it may be their profession of choice. The best and the brightest WILL find a new job, and only the mediocre, older, or extremely noble teachers will remain.

$3000 a month after taxes is fine for a single person, but what if you had kids? That's not enough, and it's that dilemma (sp? LAUSD alum!) that results in our children not having the best possible education.

PS. That "ignore" was meant for #17

I figured that is what you meant, I started ignoring thuthspeaker23 a long time ago.

All theorizing aside, a drastic reduction in available funds may have the result of more teachers in classrooms and fewer administrators.

IMO the LAUSD is a bloated bureaucracy and top heavy with advisers, consultants and a web of people with their hands in the educational pot who actually do nothing to increase student learning or the number of effective days kids spend in the classroom.

I don't know the exact ratio of teachers/ admins, but I recently encountered a group of teachers and state ed 'consultants' having a leisurely luncheon on a day when kids should have been in school and the topic of conversation was primarily about how to get more money from the state and nothing about quality of education. I found it quite annoying since most of the kids who 'graduate' from our local school can't make change for a dollar, can't write an intelligible sentence and know nothing of good citizenship.

I know this first hand from the trash they throw in my yard and the grafitti they scrawl in our neighborhood.

Clean up/ break up the LAUSD. Our city already has plenty of idiots, we don't need any more.

Good point. It is amazing that teachers claim to be under paid, but when we look at the results from top to the bottom, the results are abysmal.

If these liberal uncaring teachers really cared they would have taken the $1.3 million they donated to the No on 8 campaign and paid for 40 part-teachers at $3,200 a month. They were too busy using school time, expenses, and equipment to promote a political agenda.

Teaching?
1. Most students these days do not know that 95% of the known world once thought the world to be flat.
2. Most students do not know that the indigenous people of this land are not Indians, that would be the people of India.
3. Most students do not know that there are 53 countries in Africa.
4. Most students do not know that Egypt is in Africa.
5. Most students do not know Columbus did not name America.
6. Most students know nothing about our Constitution.
7. Most students are lost without an adding machine.
8. Most students are totally lacking in the basic instructions of reading, writing, and arithmetic.
9. These are the products that form the teachers in the LAUSD.

reply to trojan2002:No she was just joking, just to hide the fact that she can not understand what you are saying.

You are absolutely right, there are millions of people that are willing to fill the shoes of these teachers who want to strike.

When real estate prices adjust, prices decline, the jobs that are inflated will adjust also. Basic economics people. You want lower prices, then you get lower wages, and lower wages mean less taxes, and that means cuts and lay-offs.

You might want to consider that you are trying to speak reason and facts, to a group that are likely products of LAUSD and are demonstrations of this failed school system. No wonder these teachers who are about to be laid-off okayed the donation of $1.3 million to the No on 8 campaign. Seems like poetic justice.

Since this is about the curriculum and how money is being spent and allocated. Allocation for political agendas and sex education, when students need more time being taught the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic, is a core issue.

To Lindsay: It is all politics and if you don't understand this fact, the joke is you. Go back to school, but not to LAUSD, because you are obviously qualified for all 9 of the above. Really, the joke is you. If you can't re-train for another position and ar afraid of this reality, join the club called the Job Lost Academy. These people leave high paying jobs in real estate, banking, lending, mortgage, insurance, etc. and that have to retrain for other industries. Join the club or train for the changing economy.

Yes, some students can't be taught. Basic math.
$1.3 million for No on 8 and BYE BYE job. Laughing out loud. Yes, politics, little girl, politics. Guess, there is no budget to teach that junk to our kids anyway, huh. Or maybe they are weeding out the heterophobic teachers, huh. The three R's. Get that right, then ask me for a dime.

Seriously, anyone wishing to retain their sanity just pretend like truthspeaker posts are not there and save debate for the other posters close enough to reality to be relevant.

Back to the issues. Education is certainly need of serious reform, but when it comes to funding there many things that could be cut before teacher pay that are less important. I already mentioned administrator pay, and as bbkong mentioned, perhaps we have too many administrative positions period.

Another drain on money is a faulty notion that putting computers in the class room somehow magically makes learning better. It does not, and in many cases only serves to the detriment of real education. I saw this at my own school as the administration pushed for computers in every classroom and multiple computers in every English class. They went for quantity of computers over useful software, so many of these computers lacked even basic word processors for months before they decided to order software. For many teachers they saw little point or use in the computers for their subject matter or teaching style, so dozens of the computers languished collecting dust and one teacher didn't even bother plugging it in. These are the sort of useless expenses that should be hitting the chopping block long before we consider docking teacher pay or cutting days off the school year.

GarySe7en, thank you for reminding me how to preserve my sanity. I need to just focus on discussions with people who can keep their comments focused on the issue and not twist it into being about what it's not. I love how suddenly I'm being called "little girl" and told I don't understand politics, and talked to like I personally am an LAUSD teacher who not only has no clue about basic knowledge, and also, apparently, that I went to school in the LAUSD (I didn't).

I agree that trimming admin bloat is vital. I also like the idea of breaking it into smaller districts. It is already working in sub-districts, but they can't seem to or are unwilling to really make the break (instead they are slashing positions at the sub-district level and making the district more centralized, imho a big mistake). For anyone's edification, I'm the product of the Toronto Public School system (k-8) and the Glendale Unified School District here in California (9-12). I think the GUSD is an excellent example of a thriving, well-managed, high-quality, student-focused school district, and were I to leave my position teaching university for perhaps high school-level instruction, I would go there. But kids in Glendale (or Pasadena, or other smaller local districts outside the LAUSD) aren't the only kids who deserve the best. EVERY child does.

I also think that computers do not universally equate with better education; I think in some form they are helpful and also a reality, but at this point in time most kids use technology so much day to day that now they're losing non-technology skills. Of course, the money for computers in schools comes from a different place than the money for teachers. One thing that many people do not understand is that money in the LAUSD isn't a blanket issue. The Measure Q bond we passed in Nov, for example, is strictly for construction, it CANNOT be used otherwise. Same for program funding, and so many other aspects of the LAUSD from facilities, payroll, real estate, food service, arts, and so on. So those computers probably came in on grants, bonds, donations, federal money, and so on. But when the LAUSD is told to "cut back" their first real option is personnel, and they go to the teachers. As we've all agreed (and yes, I'm including trojan2002 and truthspeaker23) the way the economy is and the way the LAUSD is run is troubling and troubled, and something must be done.

Like I said, you are obviously lacking in intelligence, since you need a closet homosexual, who supports a pedophile, jrb, to tell you how to keep your sanity.

Back to the topic:

Lindsay wrote: "I'm a Part-time Faculty Lecturer at a 4-year university. I have a Master's, and the debt to prove it. I have a contract for this magical "9 months" of work, but NO job security--I could very well have NO WORK any given quarter. No work=no pay. To make my ends meet, on top of teaching English to 75 different students every 10 weeks, I have a second job. I work 6 days a week. And I make, incidentally, LESS THAN an LAUSD teacher; I don't teach at that level because it doesn't appeal to me for many reasons.

You have just described an idiot. You have a Master's degree in Insanity and a lead role in Idiocracy. What you describe is insane. How can you teach anybody anything, when you have not talk yourself the basics in functioning in a Capitalist society. It is a function of the size of your brain, that you make less than a LAUSD teacher, which you tried to separate yourself from, and sadly you proved yourself to not even reach that level.

I am amazed as I think back on my educational experience, and do not recall one student who attended UCLA or USC, proclaiming that they aspired to be a teacher. I am sure that there had to be a few, or maybe they just ended up there when they failed at their true quest.

What schools do these intelligent teachers attend anyway, Lindsay?

Maybe, if these teachers spent less time involving themselves with issues like Prop4 and Prop 8, and more time educating themselves, they would get paid more. I can recall that most of my professors at UCLA and USC, wrote books and I was often privileged to be taught from those same books. It seems that you get paid what you are worth.

When you stupidly vote No on 8 and oppose Prop 4, which are both anti-children, you don't deserve job security. The first real option for cut-backs should be teachers and if they focused on teaching citizens or students with visas then there would be no issue. Funny, a lot of teachers who are citzens will lose their job, while the illegals they support will keep their education. Poetic justice again.

Truthspeaker, I was also an undergrad at UCLA. Of my core group of friends, 4 of us are now teachers with LAUSD. 2 of us were Mathematics majors (definitely not one of the easier majors at UCLA) and two of us now have Master's degrees in Education. We are all teachers because we love to teach and because we think it's an important job. In my opinion, my friends and the other teachers I know are, for the most part, good-hearted individuals who care about other people and who want to help young people develop into good-hearted adults as well.
You sound like a total jerk. I don't think it would have taken longer than 5 minutes for me or my friends to figure this out and avoid all future contact with you. Maybe that's why you didn't know any teachers at UCLA.

I am glad that 4 of you are now teachers with LAUSD. It might just be fitting. My friends also avoided drug addicts and idiots, so that is why we would have missed you. But, UCLA and USC and other major Universities have their bottom-feeders, you four.

You see, California public schools just got there report card. D-. Yes, D-. That means Lindsay, your school system in Glendale was in the D- range and LAUSD was an F. Congrats cgrounds you get an F.

Calif. schools got a D for there ability to weed out bad teachers. I guess you still have a job, for now. So, please avoid all future contact. You are a failure, because your for teacher is like the American idol wannabes who can't teach. A D- means that you can not teach. And I am not jerking your chain, but jrb might want to jerk something else. You sound like a fagala, and it took me less than 2 minutes to figure that out and that is why I would have missed you at school. And the fact that you likely spent most of your time off campus hanging around a little boys elementary school locker room. Good-hearted individuals who care so much that they get a F in teaching. Don't fool yourself, you are failures as teachers.

"The state's budget woes may soon have a massive casualty list to its credit, culled from our already ailing school systems. Who's getting kicked out of school? Educators!

Late next week, teachers and administrative staff from public schools around the state will find out they may soon be unemployed, reports the Daily News. "The layoff letters, which by law must go out by Saturday, could number in the tens of thousands, school officials warn." Ultimately, many of the letter's recipients may not lose their jobs--provided the state can find the $8 million to file the hole in our budget. California's schools are expected to pitch in $4.4 million as their share in the form of budget cuts. Local school conglomerate LAUSD is looking at a budget cut of over $400 million next year. And we all know that LA's public schools are the first and best place to start when looking to trim the financial fat, right?

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced some time ago that in order to solve the fiscal crisis, he would initiate cuts in education, a decision that has angered the public and opposing Democratic politicians and lawmakers in Sacramento. Schwarzenegger claims the cuts are "negotiable" and manageable enough at the school level to "reduce impacts." Locally, LAUSD has stated they will not lay off teachers in permanent positions, but will, however, consider trimming from the ranks of administrative staff. Those staff will get sent the warning letter on March 15. Final notices will hit on May 15, and jobs will be gone by July 1.

Gosh darnit, they vote to donate $1.3 million to the No on 8 campaign as a display of their ignorance,get a D- grade in education, and now they are facing the lost of their job. Acording to the report, these teachers needed to be evaluated for expulsion. Reaping what you be sowing. cgrounds, even Lindsay says you teachers in LAUSD suck, although her schools D- grade means they suck too. I think your students should know that their failures are a result of your love for them.

I am a lesbian, because I choose to be. I am sickened that the so-called out crowd tries to deny us that choice. I do not wish to marry same-sex, likely will marry a man. I think that the teachers don't represent me and if you got a D- grade, then you should not be representing anyone. Anyone with a brain knows that LAUSD gets an F, and not surprising that California gets a D-.

I can't believe that someone came on here defending the teachers, by professing to be a LAUSD teacher. Stop marching and start teaching.

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