LAist: Sundance Festival Will Use Prop 8 Proponent's Theatre

PantheonZeus

Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:54:55 -0800

http://www.movesundance.com/

PantheonZeus

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:27:22 -0800

>Since when did "being married" become the "in" crowd?? Just trying to keep up with the Joneses. Besides, Mr and Mrs. Jones' federally-licensed civil marriage yields a total of 1,138 provisions in which marital status is a factor in determining benefits, rights, and privileges. (wikipedia has the complete list for your perusal)

jackjood

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:59:27 -0800

Since when did "being married" become the "in" crowd??

PantheonZeus

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:41:51 -0800

I guess I have learned a little from the 60s protest ilk. I know if the police try to carry you away to "go limp". ha I did some ACT UP rallies in late 80s when gays were literally choking back tears and begging the FDA to release some drugs/drug trials to keep them alive a bit longer. It was a sad scene I will never forget. Finally AZT was made available, then drug cocktails arrived by 1996, but sadly by then a generation was decimated. Then the late 80s public Kiss-Ins at malls for "visibility" of gays. ACT UP: "we're here, we're queer, get used to it." Years before mainstream 'Will & Grace' sitcom and ELLEN talk show and all that. So I suppose the gays are fine when we remain submissive...though we are still hated. If I am gonna be hated anyway, I'd rather be fighting for civil rights and equality. Still, this new mormon/fundie/catholic powerbase over US politics is scareeee, and we ALL should worry and wonder: what/who will be next? Love the argument that marriage is for procreation and families with a mom and dad. --um, so should all 55+ year old have their marriage licenses revoked since they cannot keep making Christian babies? Should all unmarried atheist parents have their kids taken away to christian foster care?

BingosDingo

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:19:48 -0800

Someone did slap the cross out of her hand. Not a grab so much. I'm glad she's taken the attitude of forgiveness. One of the very few "Yes on 8" as far as I can tell. I participated in a End the War in Iraq rally in Pasadena last year. The guy in front of me (part of the group) was shoving people out of the way; whether they saw him coming or not. Wanted to slap him upside the head. I did complain to the organizers and he was warned about his behavior. No invites in future if he did anything like that again. Having protested Vietnam in my youth I'm impressed with the restraint and maturity displayed in these "Yes on 8" protests. Did you learn from us? Regardless you've been much better about this than we were.

PantheonZeus

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:49:34 -0800

I love it ! Yes, gays are called fascist on Fox for proposed boycotts while Bill O'Reilly declares war on retailers who say "Happy Holidays" instead of "christmas". His schtick is as regular as Charlie Brown Xmas Special. I would laugh more if it wasn't so tragic. I found a news item on-line that the Palm Springs lady, Phyllis Burgess, whose cross sign was ripped from her hands by angry No on 8 protesters has "forgiven" the angry mob that surrounded her that day. She was not hurt. Phyllis said a "big Biker type guy" came over after the event and apologized to her. She has dropped charges. She simply wants her own freedom (of speech) respected. Here she is: www.myspace.com/phyllisburgess Personally, I would have been furious if I saw any fellow protesters mistreating an elderly lady. let's all try to be respectful of rights -- ofcourse some US citizens have more than others.

BingosDingo

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:12:09 -0800

Pantheon: No problem really. > are you listening to the spin of these bigots and cowards? Ya, Three days ago the L.A. Times published an online article quoting Frank Schubert as saying boycotting was illegal. When I went back to the article to cite it someone at the paper had changed it, removing the quote. I was not happy about that. The only arrest of a religious leader for hate speech was in Sweden. Didn't stop them from citing it though. The only example of gay teaching in California schools* was a case where a lesbian teacher invited her class to her wedding. She pre-notified parents about her intentions and two refused to let their kids go...without a problem. This is why all the "Yes on 8" propaganda is based on out of state examples. They just can't find valid in-state examples of homosexual "misdeed." Note the quotes. This is religion based discrimination and it's appalling. It's would be laughable had they not succeeded. * Teaching anything about marriage is not required in California schools, according to Jerry Brown; and he should know.

PantheonZeus

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:09:00 -0800

thanks BingosDingo glad to inform - I will try to curb the snark. ps - are you listening to the spin of these bigots and cowards? Just replace "gay" with ANY religious or ethnic group...and this Prop 8 stuff would NOT be tolerated over civil marriage rights.

BingosDingo

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:41:38 -0800

Pantheon: Don't bother, I found it. By the way. The "uh" and "duh" are unnecessary. I'm not gay. I'm not deeply involved with your lifestyle or social circles. I support you and your efforts, but because my orientation is different than yours I'm not automatically going to know the things you know.

BingosDingo

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:36:07 -0800

Pantheon: got a link to Outfest? You could send it to me at my profile email address if you prefer. >and how pathetic that Sundance doesnt have the integrity or respect for the gays in their own industry to find another theatre to project a goddamned movie. I notice there's an horrendous amount of doubletalk (example in article) going on when an organization like this is outed. "We support diversity (unless you are gay) in the community and industry." Ya...right!

PantheonZeus

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:50:54 -0800

Maybe the gay community should start it's own film festival. I'd certainly get behind that. um, we have that...its called OutFest suck it Sundance and Utah and how pathetic that Sundance doesnt have the integrity or respect for the gays in their own industry to find another theatre to project a goddamned movie.

BingosDingo

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:43:11 -0800

> Everyone has a right to express their views, vote as they choose, and donate money to causes that they see fit. Everyone also has the right to spend their hard earned dollars as they see fit. No one can tell a purchaser where to spend their money. > All of these emails going around to boycott certain businesses is ridiculous. Don't forget effective! > This is the kind of backlash that makes people jaded and not want to participate in the political process. Honestly, it invigorates me. Since you feel boycotting is somehow illegal why don't you cite law to support that contention? Maybe the gay community should start it's own film festival. I'd certainly get behind that.

db

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:15:09 -0800

Boycotts != McCarthyism

Dmqwerty

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:07:19 -0800

Bravo, LA Film Festival. Since when did voting and/or donating to causes you believe in become un-American? Everyone has a right to express their views, vote as they choose, and donate money to causes that they see fit. All of these emails going around to boycott certain businesses is ridiculous. This is the kind of backlash that makes people jaded and not want to participate in the political process. And btw, before you flame me for being "anti-gay," I voted NO on Prop 8. I just think this backlash is the new McCarthyism.