LAist: Going 70 in a 35 MPH Zone

samkim

Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:35:15 -0800

lets bring this situation... a man shoots a woman who was two months pregnant, the fetus dies and the woman survives, and the man is tried for attempted murder AND murder? or just attempted murder since the fetus is only two months, and the mother had no intention of having an abortion, she would consider this a loss of life. how do they go about making these decisions?

desiringmachine

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:05:35 -0800

@samkin Babies born a month early have a pretty good survival rate whereas if a woman two months pregnant gives birth, it's not even called birth. It's called a miscarriage. So I would say in this instance it counts as another person.

samkim

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:15:06 -0800

so how do they determine if the baby counts as another loss of life? if the mother was two months pregnant would they stil consider it a murder? or is it not considered life since it can be aborted up to three months in?

bbkong

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:31:24 -0800

Whatever the reason is for this incident isn't as important to public safety as the road conditions that allow and encourage this sort of behavior. These people were going downhill on a six lane boulevard that only serves as a traffic conduit between Glendale and Pasadena and coming off the westbound Colorado exit from the 134 which is an invitation to speed. I live here, I know the road very well. This isn't the first accident we've seen, just the bloodiest in a while. Speeding on Colorado isn't news, nor is speeding on Eagle Rock Boulevard which serves as a conduit from downtown to Glendale. If there's fault to be laid, of course let's blame it on irresponsible kids behind the wheel, but we shouldn't ignore the neglect of traffic engineers who have set the stage that encourages this behavior. This never would have happened on Pasadena's stretch of Colorado nor Glendale's. As long as the city treats the streets of Eagle Rock as short cuts to to Glen/Pas, these things will continue to happen.

Deepfry

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:45:50 -0800

I think what gonzoworm meant was that you have to be born first before you are able to die. He's just being picky. Ok I know they were street racing and all but the guy who stayed behind and tried to help is the one who gets pinned with murder?

BingosDingo

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:15:47 -0800

In fact the driver of the car that wrapped around the tree was eight month's pregnant. Neither the mother nor baby survived.

tornadoes28

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:19:36 -0800

Yes, one victim was pregnant.

tornadoes28

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:19:16 -0800

I just wanted to mention that I wish all street racers would go F themselves and go to hell. They are all damn trash losers.

gonzoworm

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:42:38 -0800

"unborn baby"???