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Photos from the first days of marriage. | Photos by Tom Andrews/LAist
The Log Cabin Republicans rolled out a new website last Friday called Republicans Against 8 (it should be noted that it's still in its early stages of development). Proposition 8, which will appear on this November's ballot, seeks to eliminate same sex marriages in California, which have been legal since June. A statement from the group said their "message to California Republican voters is simple: 'Opposing Proposition 8 is the conservative thing to do.'"
But how is this the conservative thing to do? "Marriage is a personal decision. It's not up to the long arm of the government of when, where and whom you should get married to," explained Scott Schmidt of Republicans Against 8 campaign in a phone interview with LAist (you may recognize his name from the blog, Boi From Troy). The fundamental Republican beliefs, he explained, are personal responsibility, limited government and individual liberty.
At the Log Cabin Republican's convention in April, Governor Schwarzegger announced that he would fight Prop 8 all the way to Election Day. To put our Republican California Governor's move in perspective, in 1978, then former Republican Governor Ronald Reagan, opposed Prop 6, or the Briggs Initiative, which would have banned gay and lesbians from teaching in public schools. It ended up failing, quite possibly due to Reagan's last minute support of the opposition.
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'Opposing Proposition 8 is the conservative thing to do.'
Well put.
These bible thumpers aren't Conservatives, they're fascists.
I dunno. I've always thought gay people voting Republican is a lot like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders
Or Deer joining the NRA.
I know several Republicans who are socially liberal, but stay with the GOP, because they're greedy.
To all my Catholic, Mormon and Evangelical Christian friends,
In the spirit of negotiation and out of the kindness of my heart, I am prepared to make an offer to all of you who so fervently and passionately, in the name of religion, are supporting proposition 8.
This is MY proposition to you:
I would like you to allow me to have a civil union, (presently called marriage license, but you can change the name if you wish), with my partner of nine years.
I would like you to allow me to be by her bedside, in the event that she is ever in intensive care.
I would like you to allow me to decide, where we shall be buried.
I would like you to allow me to have a safe home, free from pillaging, in the event that one of us should die before the other.
I would like you to allow us to take for granted, as many of you do, all the rights that are granted to “ALL PEOPLE” in the constitution of my wonderful state of California and hopefully someday of this great nation.
Now at this point of my offer, you are all probably wondering what’s in it for you, so here goes my end of the deal.
To the Catholics: I promise I will never make fun of your over priced churches. I will not assume that all priests are pedophiles. I also promise that I will continue to buy those candies that your kids sell me, for some fund raising event or another. I will go to all your festivals, eat and drink excessively, and give you plenty of my hard-earned homo money.
To the Mormons: I promise that I will never make fun of you holy underwear “garments”. I also promise that I will never bring up those little racist secrets from your past, or the fact that DNA has disproved your book’s theories. I promise I’ll try really hard not to think that all of you have fifty wives. I also assure you that when you send your missionaries to my door, on their cute little bikes, I will continue to offer them something to drink, and I will never slam the door in their face.
To the Evangelical Christians: I promise I will never speak an unkind word again, about Tammy Faye Baker’s makeup, or her hubbies little visit to our prison system. I also promise not to laugh at the TV shows where you slap someone on the head; they fall, and are miraculously cured of what ails them. I also give you my word that if any of your leaders have encounters with prostitutes. Get busted. And cry a river of tears on TV while they ask for forgiveness. I will forgive them.
And to all of you, I would like to give you my word of honor that I will never step foot in your religious houses of worship, even though you are constantly inviting me to come in and join your gangs.
I am also willing to wear some form of identification, so you can cross the street if you see me on the sidewalk, or your children want talk to me, or I spend my money in your businesses. I don’t know just yet what I should wear? Perhaps a little black triangle will do.
As you can see, I am giving you much more in my offer than I am asking for in return.
So what do you say? Deal or no Deal?
With much love,
Lourdes Rivas
Los Angeles, California
yeah lourdes, you can do all those things without a marriage paper. if i can be in an awesome relationship for 7 yrs without one, so can you. its not about religion , its DARWIN. no matter how many times you want to say it, sticking your dick in a guys poop chute is UNNATURAL. its meant for crap to come OUT OF, nothing IN. in scandinavian countries like Denmark after they okayed gay marriage, they soon okayed INCESTUAL MARRIAGE AS WELL. BECAUSE ITS THE SAME ARGUMENT, CONSENTUAL BETWEEN ADULTS. SO I GUESS ITS MY RIGHT TO MARRY MY BROTHER TOO? 8 out of 10 people here in west hollywood that are gay have had traumatic childhood molestation experiences,so i dont blame them but you prob. need psychiatric help, not marriage. IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIPS ARE EQUIVALENT TO MARRIAGE AND COUPLES CAN GET THE SAME BENEFITS AS MARRIED COUPLES.
"Denmark after they okayed gay marriage, they soon okayed INCESTUAL MARRIAGE..."
This is a lie...
http://www.slate.com/id/2100884/
Dear Zengrrl,
PLEASE keep posting !!
You make the NO ON 8 issue so much easier for us. Keep up the good work.
You are a septic tank of information.
Please support prop 8. The pupose of prop 8 is not to take away any rights . Supporters of prop 8 do not care if gay couples want to be able to sit by and take care thier partners in death or in finacial situations. We are concerned about our rights to protect marriage as being between a man and a woman. We are trying or supporting discrimination at all. Please stand with us and vote yes on prop 8.
Dear Zengrrl and Patterson 5,
From time to time, I've had to protect my marriage from other heterosexuals of both genders - infidelity can destroy both a marriage and a family - but I'm not sure how my marriage has ever been threatened by homosexuals.
My husband and I want our 6 kids to please, please, get married before having their own children. So, when our eldest (who has never been molested) decided to marry the woman she had loved and lived with for the last five years, we thought it was not just a good thing, it was high time. Grandkids are just around the corner. Their registered domestic partnership was simply not enough protection for their family, or for their future children. If it was, hetersexual couples should thinks it is sufficient, as well.
I'm also old enough to remember a time when intelligent human beings resisted the idea that certain other human beings ought to have exactly the same rights, proposing instead that the others could have similar rights, Separate, but Equal. The legacy of this time, and that idea, is collectively referred to as Jim Crow laws, many of which were founded on "Biblical principles" and are clear examples of government sanctioned discrimination in our polictical history.
I do not see how the fourteen words in Prop 8 protect my marriage, or the marriages of my parents, my sisters, my children, my neighbors, my friends. The biggest threat to American marriages is plain old selfishness; the unwillingness to make a smart match, and to stick with it. Try legislating that.
I don't see how homosexuality is going destroy a Marriage between a man and a woman.
Heterosexuals will continue to produce children, regardless of other or other's sexual preferences.
It has been that way for thousands of years and is not going to change, period!
Get over it folks, being gay is not a choice according to recent discussions involving X/Y chromosome issues, something about specific genes not being "turned off" during fetal development. I wish I had saved the link regarding this finding.
I apologize.
You will have to decide come November 8, 2008.