An Open Letter to LA’s Barista Community: Lattes

Abbey Lane lattes rule

Dear baristas and coffee mixologists of LA:

LAist loves coffee. In fact, collectively our staff probably drinks enough java on a daily basis to ensure many of your weekly salaries. But increasingly, we’ve found fewer and fewer of our local coffee bars and local Starbucks around LA know how to make really good lattes.

Here are a few things that you might wan to consider when we order a simple nonfat latte. Following these tips might help stuff your college fund jar at the register.

>> A latte is not a cappuccino. Basically, there’s more steamed milk in a latte with a shorter cap of foam, making it a milder drink. The cappuccino has about equal parts espresso and milk, and a good amount of foam.

>> Froth away. What we really can’t stand is a latte that has too much milk and not enough foam. It’s that foam that cuts the sharpness of the espresso; but drown it in lukewarm milk, it tastes almost as good as a Sanka decaf (just add water!). If we wanted a cafe con leche we would have ordered it. So please, take an extra minute to froth well. It's so worth it.

>> Keep it hot. Dip the espresso wand long enough in the milk to keep it piping hot. Lukewarm milk is great for bedtime, but not for breakfast lattes.

>> Nonfat is king. Use nonfat milk for lattes and cappuccinos. We've heard that the lesser amount of fat in milk makes for better frothing. If your customers don't ask for a type of milk specifically, then maybe go with the skim (it's the healthier choice, anyway).

If you need to test out a near close-to-perfect latte, then we recommend the lattes at Abbey Lane Cafe (in picture), located just down the road from CalArts in Santa Clarita. Sure, it takes them a little longer to make the drink, but no matter who makes the latte, it's always consistently good with the perfect ratio of foam-milk-espresso. Like a little taste of Italy right here in LA.

Thanks for listening and we'll see tomorrow morning.

Yours truly,
Your coffee-holic friends at LAist.

Photo by Christine N. Ziemba/LAist.

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omg thank you christine! kids these days....

Actually, whole milk is king. Nonfat milk gives you more foam than whole milk, but it's drier foam that separates from the milk more quickly.

My god...that is the uggliest looking latte I've ever seen. Come on over to Peet's on Larchmont, and I'll make you a latte that'll make you smile.

-Cela

The best coffee in the universe is at Intelligentsia in Silver Lake. PERFECT espresso and milk!

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Non-fat? And you feel entitled to tell other people how to make a latte? Make your own bullshit psuedo-lattes yourself.

Try Infuzion Cafe in Santa Monica! Best lattes and cappuccinos on the West side!

This is an absolutely awful piece.

I don't have the patience to address every piece of nonsense in it, but I'll touch on the salient points.

Being a coffee drinker does not make you a coffee expert. Condescending to the community of bartenders who approach this as a craft indicates otherwise.

Froth is what emanates from my dogs mouth when I run him for an hour. It is also what emanates from the mouths of coffee professionals when they read pseudo-journalism from people posing as coffee experts.

Most coffee professionals do not work with "espresso wands". An espresso wand is what the fast-food worker at Starbucks waves at that large bucket of liquid they're handing you. It is what makes you think you're getting an espresso drink, in defiance of any culinary logic.

Nonfat milk? Really?

Perhaps cafes in Little Italy, Socal, use Pottery Barn mugs like the one depicted in your photo, but it's not "correct". Which I wouldn't bring up, except that you have taken it upon yourself to tell us what is.

Enough already.

Yowza. I think a few of these folks need to switch to decaf.

I agree with this piece. I've been frustrated on numerous occassions upon receiving a latte when I clearly asked for a capuccino. And I've had it happen not just at the local Starbucks but at independently owned joints as well. I think these employees just have not been properly trained on the difference. Sometimes I'll just let it slide, but I'll often politely ask them to redo it. I mean, if you're paying close to $4 for a stinking cup of coffee then you should get what you ordered, right?

I'm a Starbucks barista. You can hate on me, I can take it.

No matter what you're paying, when you order a drink from Starbucks, you should get it exactly the way you want it. If there's anything not to your liking, the barista should happily remake it...I know that's not always the way it goes and I apologize on behalf of all of us for bad attitudes. As a Starbucks employee, I BEG you to not leave your Starbucks until you're happy with the drink you have in your hand. We have been trained into the ground that customer service comes first, and anyone who gives you attitude is not doing their job.

When I make a cappuccino, I ALWAYS ask the customer as I hand it off "is that dry enough for you?" If they prefer it drier or wetter, I remake the whole drink. Starbucks's relatively new cappuccino standard is that all capps must be free-poured...that is, as soon as milk is done steaming to temperature, it should be poured immediately on top of the espresso shots (which are less than 10 seconds old). I don't know if this is how they do it in Italy, or Intelligentsia, or LA Mill, or what-have-you. I know I personally like the capps made this way. If you like them made differently, let me know and I'll do it exactly how you want it.

As far as nonfat goes? Well, if YOU like your capps made with non, then you should get a damn fine nonfat capp. However, Rocktageous is, in my experience, dead on. Starbucks serves nonfat, 2%, whole, Silk soy, half-and-half, and heavy whipping cream (yes...you CAN get your drink made with heavy whipping cream if you so desire, and YES people have ordered it). I've found that 2% really does make the best capps, followed by whole, and then soy (if you can drink it fast enough before the foam loses its frothy structure and the milk separates). Of course, if you've got someone on bar who doesn't know how to foam milk correctly or doesn't really take pride in what they're doing, none of that really matters. But I guarantee you they'll try harder if you ask them to remake it.

As for a latte, the Starbucks standard is mostly milk (which should never be flat, should always be vaguely fluffy and aerated) topped with a layer of foam. If you prefer more of a solid head of foam, please ask for extra foam. If you hate foam, ask for no foam, and check your drink before you leave. Correctly steamed milk should always be somewhat foamy--the barista needs to let the milk and foam separate for a little longer than usual to make a latte that's truly "no foam," and some baristas feel the pressure of speed over quality and will pour the milk too quickly. They won't top it off with foam, so it LOOKS "no foam" when they put the lid on, but by the time you open the lid, the aerated milk has separated and now you have foam. Simply hand it back and ask for a new drink.

And Manthri, I'm really offended by your vitriol. I am not a fast-food worker. True, Starbucks used to have a 3-minute policy (no customer should spend more than 3 minutes after entering a Starbucks before they have their drink in hand), but recently this was rescinded. The company found that attempting to appease the fast-food culture was sacrificing quality. We've now been instructed to always put drink quality ahead of speed. Unfortunately, this frequently leads to very angry customers, because a lot of our customers actually WANT fast coffee. I'm really sorry our attempts to appease this contingent of our customer base has affected your experience.

To that end, on a selfish note, I ask Starbucks patrons to expect to spend 15 minutes getting your coffee. Sometimes it only takes 3 minutes. But most of the time it takes more. We're NOT McDonald's.

Also. If you go to a Starbucks just for drip coffee, and you have to wait for them to re-brew because the coffee expired, your drip coffee should be on the house. That is official Starbucks policy. Demand this.

Honestly, I work at Starbucks instead of a restaurant because I really like making a difference in your day. I want to make your drink just the way you like it, and I know your "simple nonfat cappuccino" isn't simple at all. Not to you. And not to me.

For the love it's so true. Half the latte's i order are half foam! man, we need reform, let's put it on the ballot!

Oh, Christine, you have opened up a can of worms! Some of us don't like all of that foam - it is empty filler taking up valuable space that should be filled with caffeine, and it makes it almost impossible to mix in sugar. And people would riot if they were handed a skim latte without being asked.

I have a feeling I know what will be at the top of the "most commented" list all week...

Thank you. Any tips on places with consistent cappuccinos? I have yet to find one. So annoyed with 3 dollar caps that are some other creation of something...

A latte is definitely not a cappuccino. But when I want a caffè latte, I unfortunately have to order a cappuccino -- just as when I want a cappuccino, I invariably have to order a caffè macchiato.

For some reason, espresso beverages are drowning in milk. Most places make caffè lattes like some gargantuan bowl of milky soup with coffee flavoring. That's my biggest "beef":

http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2007/08/wheres-the-coffee/

whole milk all the way baby...

actually non fat makes the best foam...

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