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<title>db</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:23:39 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Like Senator Clinton, I apologize for my careless used of the language. My characterization was overly broad. Many opera folk I&apos;ve met are actually very normal. I remember lots of laughs as we pointed to everybody else.

Actually, I meant to say odd opera fans are the oddest fans of any group I&apos;ve experienced. And rethinking my original comment, the LA punks of the 80&apos;s may be a bit closer at being number 2 than I originally said.

As for my bona fides, I was the broadcast engineer for The Sunday Opera w/ Fred Hyatt on KPFK for a dozen years or so. Fred is one of the best men I&apos;ve ever known, and because of him I can regale anyone with many stories, usually in exchange for a small amount of liquor, or a large amount of food.

Please know I do use the term odd affectionately. Another description might be eccentric. I&apos;ve known a woman named Traviata who&apos;s daughter was Tosca. I&apos;ve met people who wear overcoats which cost $2000 in 1950, but haven&apos;t been cleaned since then. I&apos;ve heard many stories about standing in line for hours just hoping to get an SRO ticket at the Met. Then there&apos;s overturning trash cans to get a better view. I can only dream of having fistfights at an LA Opera like they do in Italy. I&apos;ve met guys who think recording really went downhill after cylinders were replaced by 78rpm disks. 

I mean really, how many countertenors have you met? You don&apos;t think they&apos;re fun when drunk?

I love these people. They make us all richer. But really, they are just not normal.

That said, my favorite tenors might be Miguel Fleta, Joseph Schmidt, and Jussi Bjorling. I think Bidu Sayao was hot, as was Dorthy Kirsten with her crystal voice. Donizetti wins me over for the shear number of classics. Mozart&apos;s perfect melodies ultimately leave me unsatisfied, while Wagner leaves me filled, but troubled about his own eccentricities. Oh, and let&apos;s not forget Gilbert and Sullivan who, uh, rock.

In the end, there is Verdi. And when I think of Verdi, I think of Toscanini. And when I think of Toscanini and Verdi I think not of an opera, but of a requiem. The end.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Jessica Pauline</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:26:03 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;yeah, i don&apos;t think opera fans are really that odd. what makes you think that, db? in what capacity do you &quot;deal&quot; with them?  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>samkim</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 00:34:33 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;and im not that odd&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>samkim</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 00:34:24 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;my opera experience began at the LA Opera...or it might have been at the Met when i was 7 or 8. my first experience with Wagner was playing his pieces in orchestra, and faking through every single one of them. i actually didn&apos;t see the looney toons until my teens..i grew up watching the simpsons and married with children. and i actually didn&apos;t like classical music too much then&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>grendel20</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:40:15 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Vagggg-nerrrrr&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Manny</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:49:53 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;HAHAHAHA!!! KILL THE WABBIT KILL THE WABBIT KILL THE WABBIT!!!

Spear and Magic Helmet!  BWAHAHAHA!!  CLASSIC!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Manny</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:44:56 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember an event a while back (maybe a couple of years) that involved cartoons and opera. Wagner, Puccini, Bizet  and others were featured on famous Warner Bros. cartoons.  I think its a great way to get kids interested in classical music.  Heck thats how I got started...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>db</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:37:33 -0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;It surprises me how many people have told me their experience with opera begins with Bugs Bunny. Perhaps that&apos;s the reason opera fans are the absolutely oddest group of people I&apos;ve ever dealt with. Hands down. There&apos;s no close second.
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