May 22, 2008
Midnight Movie: High-Speed Rail in California
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though its a nice first step, too bad it's slower than the european bullet trains of the 80's.
not to mention the limited routes.
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I think a tear came to mine eye...
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Dayum!!
You mean I could get from L.A. To Gilroy for the annual garlic festival no car required?!?!
MMMMmmmm!!!
I can taste that garlic ice cream already!
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That's the spirit jrb
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Wouldn't it be amazing if it were finished before I'm 100?
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*sigh*
i'd love it.
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It would be so awesome to see this actually happen, especially right now that jet fuel is so pricey!
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Enough talk let's just do it! Just don't forget to connect it to Vegas. :-)
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@ Johnny:
NOW YOURE THINKING!!!
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@ peekist -
220mph = 350kph, as fast as any bullet train in the world today. The 1980s vintage TGVs max out at 187mph = 300kph. There's a limit to how fast you can go on steel wheels. Besides, what you need to compare is door-to-door trip times. Train stations are downtown and you don't need to subject yourself to security screening before you plop down in your roomy chair and fire up your laptop.
@ johnny -
yes, that would make sense. Of course, thanks in part to the delay in getting the California system onto the ballot, there are already two competing high-speed rail projects for Las Vegas in the EIR/EIS mill:
- the privately funded $3.5 billion DesertXPress to Victorville, based on diesel trains at 125mph and,
- Sen. Harry Reid's (D-Nev) $12 billion maglev gadgetbahn to Disneyland in Anaheim and the planned $4 billion Ivanpah Valley airport between Jean and Primm.
Some 30% of all flights into and out of McCurran airport are from and to California cities that would be served by the steel wheels HSR network. If Nevadans pay for a nice straight spur off that and cancel the other projects, people could get to Vegas from Burbank in ~1:45 hours, LA in ~2:00, Anaheim in ~2:20, San Jose and Sacramento in ~3:00 and SF/San Diego in ~3:20.
Palmdale airport would be 1:20 from Las Vegas, but that might be good enough for some passengers - especially if they could take care of check-in and security on the train!
Based on the DesertXPress estimate, the cost of electrification and high-speed rolling stock plus the slightly longer route, I'm guessing such a spur would cost $7-$10 billion, depending on the exact alignment and how nice a station people want in Las Vegas.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=107511680599374219842.00044e26854cb91cf518e&z=7
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omg - i want, i want, i want!!