LAist: Dealing with Those Pesky RVs

saltmine

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:28:43 -0800

Understandable. If my neighborhood changed for the worse while I was living there, I'd be annoyed too.

saltmine

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:28:34 -0800

Understandable. If my neighborhood changed for the worse while I was living there, I'd be annoyed too.

zhuddle

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:11:46 -0800

To respond to saltmine: I was there first. When we first moved to the area, there were no visible RVs but now they are everywhere. Perhaps some other hard-working neighborhood kicked them out. And as for the 'move to a more desirable neighborhood' comment, I love my neighborhood and the RV blight is the only problem I have with it. I feel it's only right to do my best to try to correct that.

Zach Behrens

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:09:14 -0800

Thank you Stephen for the LAMC. However, I need to point out to everyone that this proposed law is another tool for fighting the parking and storage of RVs, not necessarily the living in them part, which is hard to enforce. And the savvy who store them keep moving them around every 72 hours to avoid towing.

SoapBoxLA

Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:11:07 -0800

Great discussion of a very serious topic. But, first things first. It's against the law. LAMC SEC. 85.02. USE OF STREETS AND PUBLIC PARKING LOTS FOR HABITATION. No person shall use a vehicle parked or standing upon any City street. or upon any parking lot owned by the City of Los Angeles and under the control of the City of Los Angeles or under control of the Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors. as living quarters either overnight, day-by-day, or otherwise. (Title and Section Amended by Ord. No. 158,219, Eff. 9/19/83.)

saltmine

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:55:46 -0800

Also - question - who was living in that area first - you or the RV's?

saltmine

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:30:30 -0800

Buddy, I don't know where you're getting the idea that Gower south of Sunset is "otherwise family friendly." If you take out the RV's, you'll only make the crackheads and prostitutes that much more visible. If you don't want to end up wasting what will become much of your life removing "undesirables" from your neighborhood, then move to a more desirable neighborhood, or learn to deal with it.

zhuddle

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:45:13 -0800

Why don't you post your address and I'll have them all move to your street? It's easy to be a message board hypocrite when you can't see 8 RVs from your driveway.

zhuddle

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:30:23 -0800

Both.

badtzmaru

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:07:42 -0800

Are they taking up too many parking spaces? Or does "Zach" want them out only because they are "homeless?"

zhuddle

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:44:52 -0800

As the person who initially asked the question, I want to both thank LAist for the in-depth research and defend myself. The RVs living on my street are not 'friends and family,' they are 'lifers,' many of them, that leave their trash and crime a few feet from my front door. They soak up most of the available street parking, 2 or 3 spots at a time and they're a horrible eyesore in an otherwise family-friendly hood. I have no problem with people living in RVs, just not in such quantities and in my neighborhood.

kifbox

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:02:10 -0800

San Francisco and the railroad had a TON of RV homeless living on Southern Pacific property/city streets back in in 2002. They uprooted them. Rightfully so, I highly doubt the majority of these people are pumping their tanks into the proper stations. I would imagine (as was the case in San Francisco), that these people are just letting their sewage tanks run into the gutter which empties into the ocean.

bigjeffstone

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:59:29 -0800

I agree with FutureShipwreck. As an RV resident, I park my RV in places where I'm out of the way of residents, where I won't be bothering people. If those RVs are bothering you, leave a note on their windshield. When we get one of those, we move along. Most lifers will be respectful to you if you are respectful to them. I noticed that one of the districts is the one that includes Venice Beach. This is a hotbed for RVs...it's going to be a tough to get all those guys to move out of there...which will only push them into other districts that do allow it. Most of these guys can't afford traditional housing, some are in tough life situations (addictions, etc) that have them stuck there. Let's help them out, rather than push them out.

FutureShipwreck

Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:37:39 -0800

I agree that RV-livers shouldn't be able to park in high density neighborhoods, but what about long stretches of road with no homes or businesses on them? I can think of at least three examples in my immediate area where I've seen RV-livers parked that hasn't remotely caused trouble for anyone else. In the areas where this really is a problem, shouldn't they just instate plain old permit parking on the street? The 2am-6am rule is just obnoxious. What about friends or relatives who visit from out of town and park their campers on the street overnight? They have to get a permit for their trip?