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December 18, 2007
Part II: Ten Steamy Days With A 19 Year Old Swede
Lest you think I am a filthy, piggish, exploiter of young ladies, let me hit the ground running by telling you the following: I actually find myself deeply missing “Pernilla” (see Part I).
Making a list of her endearing qualities, here is what I wrote this morning in my seduction journal: fun, giving, sexual, affectionate, smart as hell, adventurous, loving, kind, adventurous, curious, independent thinker, curious, open to all sorts of new learning, supportive, stylish, gorgeous, socially adept, fantastic in bed, wonderful kisser, fantastic sense of touch, funny as hell, loves my cats, flexible in attitude, easy going, strong willed, knows how and when to take the lead, engaging, has gorgeous speaking voice/accent, zero emotional baggage/emotionally open, healthy emotionally, mentally and physically.
Fans, foes and those who are neutral, I have seldom met any woman with such and so many endearing qualities here in La-La land. And waking up to a flawless young body, without a sag or a wrinkle, mine to touch, taste, savor and pleasure…ahhh! All you bitter, washed-up, hagged-out, baggage-laden, siliconized, therapy-addicted, LA drama queens can kiss my kosher kishkas.
Now listen, Pernilla was a bit reticent about coming out here. After all, she had only had a short time with me, knew no one in the USA, had never been here, and all of her friends, without exception, plus her parents and step-parents told her NOT to come out.
Sure, she was excited at the adventure of it, and the danger of it. But she faced an extreme amount of social pressure not to come. And she had some of her own fears as well.
Do you think I spent a lot of time trying to further convince her or talk her into coming out, once we had the tickets bought and we had both agreed and decided?
If so, you have little or no understanding of what seduction is about in general or what seduction/attraction with very young women is really all about.
You see, a huge part of mutually winning and mutually enjoying this game (that is to say, having an outcome where both you AND the young lady are very grateful for the experience) is to make sure that you select and screen for young women who are independently minded.
That is, while they may strongly take into account what their friends and family say, ultimately they are determined to make up their own minds and take responsibility for their own decisions and adventures.
They must be independently minded and have a strong sense of adventure, even to the point where they actually enjoy going against the normal grain.
I’ll never forget yet another California Pizza Kitchen waitress about 20 years my junior with whom I had a brief affair. (Thank God for CPK. Their corporate motto is “ROCK: Respect, Opportunity, Communication, Kindness. I personally think it stands for Ross’ Orgasms Created Kindly.)
All of her co-workers warned her about me. “He’ll get your pants down in minutes.” “He’s a hypnotist; he’ll get you into bed in an hour.” “He’ll try to control you sexually.”
She laughed it all off and told me that it actually made her more eagerly to get with me. She said that she told them, "I’m a big girl and can take care of myself. Let’s see what he’s got”.
Can you get with young women who are not so independently minded and adventurous and curious? Sure, with a lot of work or a lot of alcohol (which I refuse to do, absolutely--I want my women sober for many reasons.)
But remember the outcome--it has to be enjoyable for both of you and something you can both look back on with joy and gratitude.
Bottom line: as with all women, selection of the right play partner is crucial. With young women, it is utterly crucial.
Coming up in Part III; Welcome to Los Angeles: Jag Vill Ha Din Fitta!
Peace and piece,
RJ 93/93
P.S. Since so many of you got your frilly pink panties in a wad over Part I, claiming I was duping or exploiting Pernilla, let me repeat that she came to my seminar in London. She knew exactly what I did for a living, and was enjoying learning that weekend. Not only that, but she had already read about me in the Swedish version of “The Game’, the bestselling book by Neil Strauss that documents his adventures in the underground world of pick-up artists. The book features me as one of the main characters. So she was fully informed about who I was and chose to keep moving forward in an informed way, each step of the way.
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Laist; what about this article is relevant, interesting, or insightful in any way?
I really don't need to know about how some dude in his 40's has parlayed hypnotizing young girls into screwing him into a lucrative internet career.
Seriously.
And leave Pippi Longstocking out of it Ross. She would never screw you.
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this article makes me sad, angry, and upset that this is only the second in a 3-part article. this isn't askmen.com. why, laist? why?
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uh, people...this is what we're dealing with:
http://www.speedseduction.biz/index-email-a.php
i can't believe the LAist would employ someone like this to write for them! this is a guy who actually uses likes like:
"Nope, I’m the guy(and you soon can be too!) who knows how to use his language, his touch and his vibe to to take her home tonight while all the line-spouting, dumb-asses, jocks, Richie Richboys and muscle-heads go home alone and choke the chicken thinking about her."
are you kidding me?! wow. just...wow.
i don think i'll be reading the LAist on a regular basis anymore.
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wow, i've only read two of your lame, poorly written articles and i already want to fuck you... with a chainsaw.
disclaimer: i'm not advocating actual violence. i just can't resist a joke like that. i mean, me missing an opportunity to make that joke would really go against the normal grain.
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Yawn
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These columns are like train wrecks. I don't want to read them (nor can I stand to read the entire thing) but I have to skim them because they're so ridiculous.
I understand these columns get lots of hits and comments because they're so inflammatory. That said, my opinion of the LAist is less than it once was because you're publishing this, and I suspect many other readers feel the same.
I'm curious if this is the direction Zach wants to take the LAist, or if these columns were bought/solicited/accepted before Zach took over.
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These columns are like train wrecks. I don't want to read them (nor can I stand to read the entire thing) but I have to skim them because they're so ridiculous.
I understand these columns get lots of hits and comments because they're so inflammatory. That said, my opinion of the LAist is less than it once was because you're publishing this, and I suspect many other readers feel the same.
I'm curious if this is the direction Zach wants to take the LAist, or if these columns were bought/solicited/accepted before Zach took over.
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I think these articles are hilarious. (Obviously, that's just my opinion.)
Personally, I don't need to read about some semi-pro stoner trying out various kinds of weed (I'm fucked up! I'm hilarious!). Or some self-absorbed girl's romantic misadventures (I'm awesome! Is this guy worthy of me? How about this one? Did I mention that I'm awesome?).
But hey, this is the magical internet, there's plenty of room for all comers. If I don't want to read something, all I have to do is ... not click. I know, amazing, right?
Which is not to say you guys don't have the right to complain about things you don't like. Clearly you do. I'm just saying that a) if this massive bout of hand-wringing is about your personal tastes, an obvious solution would be to look elsewhere for your entertainment, and b) if it's about shielding poor widdle LAist readers from things that you personally find offensive, well, we're (mostly) grownups and there's a generally adult vibe here, so let's just all read and evaluate for ourselves, 'kay?
Meanwhile, Ross, I hope you'll continue to post here. Pursuing hot ladies (or gentlemen) is a big part of life here in L.A.; it's clear that you aren't misleading anyone, so there's certainly nothing unseemly about what you're doing.
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please.just.stop.
i can barely skim the opening sentence without my stomach crawling. yes, i know i don't have to read this idiot's posts (and i don't), but i don't understand WHY they are here on laist.
sure, people everywhere pursue those to whom they are attracted, but i think laist can showcase this aspect of l.a. life without these steaming piles of shit ross desperately wants us to believe are interesting.
zach, please don't take laist in this direction. please.
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i like sex. i like reading about sex. but trying to read through this garbage makes me throw up in my mouth.
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Yes this is the "magical internet" and it's jam-packed with content.
That's why as a daily reader of this site, I think the editor would be interested to know that this type of crap is really turning off readers.
Hey, I like sex just as much as the next person but that's not the point here. It's not the "adult" nature subject matter that's offensive, but the approach taken.
And although weed reviews are a little juvinile, I would still rather read an issue of High Times cover to cover than some border-line sociopathic gloating about scoring 19 year old pu**y.
Seriously. Yawn/barf.
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I had the unfortunate experience of hanging out with some of the devotees of The Game once. I have never seen a bigger group of pathetic pricks. One guy got 6 numbers in one night, and was so excited he told everyone. Then he proceeded to call them right after he got home, and almost all of them were from various rejection hotlines. All these speed seduction gurus are no better or more reliable than phone psychics, and any girl who would fall for their crap is equally as pathetic.
All that said, I come to LAist for LA news and events, not long diatribes featuring conquests of naive foreign girls. Please LAist, don't publish the third part or, if you do, don't let this guy post anything else on this site.
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I had the unfortunate experience of hanging out with some of the devotees of The Game once. I have never seen a bigger group of pathetic pricks. One guy got 6 numbers in one night, and was so excited he told everyone. Then he proceeded to call them right after he got home, and almost all of them were from various rejection hotlines. All these speed seduction gurus are no better or more reliable than phone psychics, and any girl who would fall for their crap is equally as pathetic.
All that said, I come to LAist for LA news and events, not long diatribes featuring conquests of naive foreign girls. Please LAist, don't publish the third part or, if you do, don't let this guy post anything else on this site.
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This is hilarious (from Wikipedia's description of Jeffries' technique):
"The "Basic Speed Seduction" course consists of CD/DVD recordings of a three-day live seminar, a workbook, and a deck of NLP "Patterns" used to structure sentences as commands. The system has you speak some words of a sentence at a normal tone, while the parts of the sentence you want the person to interpret subliminally as a command are said at a lower register. An example of a Pattern would be, "I told my dog to go inside the house." The words "go inside" may be interpreted by the unconscious mind as a command. A weasel phrase would be to say something without directly violating the other. For example, "Just for the sake of me getting to know you better what would someone have to do to get you totally intrigued?" "
It gets better. Here's my favorite:
"Another Jeffries device is phonetic ambiguity. Sentence example: "Standing on the hill, I could see the river twinkling below me." According to Jeffries, the words "below me" could be unconsciously interpreted as an embedded command to "blow me". Especially, if at the point those words were spoken, you spread your hands palms up with fingers pointing down at the crotch area."
Ah, the old "below me" line while a guy spread his hands about his crotch. I fall for that one every time!
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It just occurred to me, maybe there are humor pieces.
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i think its interesting... this guy's a hyperanalytical nerd though. glad he is finally getting laid!
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pretty weird to read this story online and then hear you telling the same story at 18th street...
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pretty weird to read this story online and then hear you telling the same story at 18th street...
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i'm not offended by the subject matter of this article...what offends me is the sheer lameness factor. other more "offensive" blogs are at the very least entertaining and novel. this shit has no substance and no point whatsoever other than to let this d-bag boast about his alleged sexual conquests. no one cares about the whore you're porking and what kind of "independent" (i.e. likely sexually abused at some point in their lives) women you're after. at least make it funny for godssakes. save this shit for your personal diary, keep lying to people about your age on your match.com profile, and spare laist the details.
with that said, way to go, laist, for giving this fucker a forum. i don't know if you're going to continue to allow this guy to post because each click means more $$ for you, but perhaps you should listen to your readers. strive for some quality in the work that appears on your site. i can say that generally what your writers put forth is great (even the weed reviews are at least interesting to read and relate to a part of LA subculture). the ONLY reason i even look at RJ's articles anymore is to read the comments. your readers are by far more thoughtful AND funnier than this asshole, so why don't you quit endorsing SHITTY writing and listen to your readers.
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couldn't help but check out ross's website. i can SEE why 19-year-old "pernilla" was reluctant to come to the US. she's blind!
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I wonder how those bitter, washed-up, hagged-out, baggage-laden, siliconized, therapy-addicted , LA drama queens got that way? It couldn't be from a lifetime of being treated like this when they were nubile and malleable, then discarded like yesterday's trash for the next gullible young thing to pass by?
Oh, why do I bother? This is below me
Worrying about it will just eat me up inside.
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Hindinwood wrote:
"uh, people...this is what we're dealing with:
http://www.speedseduction.biz/index-email-a.php"
Hey..please, please do not QUOTE FROM MY WEBSITE AND MARKETING MATERIAL!
Whatever you do, do not DO THAT!
"The Empire never ended".....Phillip K. Dick
RJ
93/93
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Elise wrote:
"I wonder how those bitter, washed-up, hagged-out, baggage-laden, siliconized, therapy-addicted , LA drama queens got that way? It couldn't be from a lifetime of being treated like this when they were nubile and malleable, then discarded like yesterday's trash for the next gullible young thing to pass by?"
Treated like what? Where did you get any idea that I have treated Pernilla with anything other than genuine affection, caring, etc etc?
It is amazing to me how people will read into, even hallucinate things that I have not even remotely stated or written.
My entire point is that Pernilla is NOT "gullible". She's open, adventurous, and capable of seeing opportunities that aren't necessarily part of the conventional social structure that you seem to so lovingly defend.
How did hagged-out LA women get so hagged-out? Probably for lots of reasons and causes, perhaps one of which is buying into the notion that they are constantly being victimized, when, in reality, they are making self-defeating choices and locked into a set of wholly out-dated rituals for mating that don't work for anyone.
Peace and piece,
RJ
93/93
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Hmm, well, OK. Maybe you're not so bad. I DO love Phillip K Dick. Dick really excites this reader.
So will you be at the next BBQ???
;)
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Hindinwood also said:
"And leave Pippi Longstocking out of it Ross. She would never screw you."
Hey, Pippi can lift her horse over her head with one hand. I'm not going to mess around with someone who can do that. But if I rubbed banana cream on my balls and she let Mr. Nielsen off his leash...
RJ
93/93
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HeartDryAsDust belched out thusly:
"I had the unfortunate experience of hanging out with some of the devotees of The Game once. I have never seen a bigger group of pathetic pricks. One guy got 6 numbers in one night, and was so excited he told everyone. Then he proceeded to call them right after he got home, and almost all of them were from various rejection hotlines. All these speed seduction gurus are no better or more reliable than phone psychics, and any girl who would fall for their crap is equally as pathetic."
Amazing how it is perfectly acceptable to heap contempt on people who are trying to improve themselves in a very painful and difficult area of life.
You wouldn't spew venom at a child trying to learn to read or an adult with a learning disability, yet men who never learned to be socially adept are perfectly acceptable targets of your venom and ridicule.
Beyond this, your story smacks of falsehood: if you hung out with these people once, how the hell would you know what happened when the guy went home and called these women?
I can understand the knee-jerk reactions of women to these blogs of mine, but I think your readiness to spit bile at men who are in need of help is truly disgusting.
Peace and piece,
RJ
93/93
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Arilz said:
"pretty weird to read this story online and then hear you telling the same story at 18th street..."
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I truly have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about. 18th Street?????????????????
Puzzled...
RJ
93/93
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There are 2 issues here - your own sexual conquest and your seminars. First I will address the personal issues.
When I say "treated like this" I mean as a prize to be won. As someone who is valued and cherished for her lack of wrinkles and sags. You value youth so highly, yet you are no spring chicken, mister. How saggy is that sac these days? And when are you going to need Viagra, if not already? I assume besides their supple flesh, young girls are easier to manipulate. Do you have relationships with women your own age? If so, I apologize and award one point.
I would love to see what past conquests have to say. It all comes down to whether it is 2 consenting adults having a healthy good time, even if it is somewhat of a mentor/mentee relationship. May-Decembers can be positive for a young woman interested in learning a thing or two. If that is so, then you get another point.
The digs at women of a certain age (over 30?) is what paints such a bad picture of your character. If you are able to have healthy sexual relationships with women of all ages and are not damaging them, then I have no quibbles. It's your life.
Now, regarding these seminars. Again, it goes to motive. If these are men looking for healthy sexual relationships vs. scumbags looking to fool a girl into bed by any means possible and cast her aside, then maybe you are the savior of unfuckable men the world over.
One issue I have is the use of the word "seduction" and the constant use of plurals in relationship to the women.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You talk about women making self-defeating choices - insinuating they are making their own choices, while simultaneously teaching men how to weaken women's conscious choice-making abilities using psychological and linguistic trickery. Why not just have a 10-minute seminar: "Part one - get them too drunk to think straight. The end."
If a guy is awkward around women and needs to learn to develop a rapport with them, possibly to lead to a relationship someday, or at or at least a really good lay that's fine.
As long as it's above-board and the women are not left feeling used and manipulated. As long as it doesn't start heaping that oh-so-unappealing "baggage" on these women. It really seems like this is a how-to-fuck-a-woman seminar. In which case, taking the high road of "helping these poor men" is total bullshit.
I am currently hosting a seminar on knee-capping. There are so many poor men out there who don't know how to properly cripple their enemies. How dare you insult thes poor guys?
Oh man, I can't believe I got caught up in this. I need to eat more vegetables. After all, you are what you EAT. MY ASthma has gotten much better since I cut out wheat.
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I always demonstrate my genuine affection and caring by kissing and telling on the internet. Don't you?
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HeartDryAsDust belched out thusly:
"I had the unfortunate experience of hanging out with some of the devotees of The Game once. I have never seen a bigger group of pathetic pricks. One guy got 6 numbers in one night, and was so excited he told everyone. Then he proceeded to call them right after he got home, and almost all of them were from various rejection hotlines. All these speed seduction gurus are no better or more reliable than phone psychics, and any girl who would fall for their crap is equally as pathetic."
Amazing how it is perfectly acceptable to heap contempt on people who are trying to improve themselves in a very painful and difficult area of life.
You wouldn't spew venom at a child trying to learn to read or an adult with a learning disability, yet men who never learned to be socially adept are perfectly acceptable targets of your venom and ridicule.
Beyond this, your story smacks of falsehood: if you hung out with these people once, how the hell would you know what happened when the guy went home and called these women?
I can understand the knee-jerk reactions of women to these blogs of mine, but I think your readiness to spit bile at men who are in need of help is truly disgusting.
You are right about one thing, it wasn't at home. I went back to one of these guys apartments, and the dude called all the girls from there.
Couching what you do in lofty terms doesn't make it a lofty enterprise. What you teach isn't a way for socially inept men to interact with women, its simply offering fools gold to those who want to be rich. Any real, interesting, worthwhile woman would never fall for voice patterning or any of the other BS you charge people to hear.
You aren't teaching men to be socially adept, you are teaching them how to treat women like morons.
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Malingering:
The etc etc etc is a clue.
Just imagine him rolling his eyes and moving his hand in that circular "yadda yadda yadda" motion as he says, "I treated her with genuine affection, caring, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
It's really very cunning. Linguistics is a fascinating area of study.
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This post just stinks of desperation. How satisfied and happy could you be if you have to run about bragging about boning nubile young women (and the wait staff from CPK of all places)?
Also...seduction journal? Come on now. You must have better things to do with your time.
When I read these posts, I hear the voice of the Comic Book guy from the Simpsons.
ps. Crowley would be rolling his eyes at you. Love is the Law, Love under Will, not Smack Your Saggy Balls on Women then Brag on the Internet. Have some dignity.
pps. Elise + Malingering=hilarity.
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LOTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ELISE IS HILLARIOUS!! Love her!! And some well though out points too!
It's time to go SUCK MY ASSthma inhaler. MY BIG DICKtation machine needs polishing and I really need to go do some real work and stop reading the lousy writing of a pathetic 50-year-old guy who's still trying to lay 18-year-olds.
Damn dude ... you really must have had some fucked up, scarred existence. I can't help but feel sorry for someone like that. I know I'm FAAAR from perfect, but ... DAMN!!
But then again, I know you must be making that money, son! There's got to be enough people out there who fall for that shit. God knows enough people bought enough of those machines that make your abs sweat and give you 8-pack abs!
ASS-ta la vista baby! SUCK, MY COCKerspaniel needs grooming! gOTta go TaKe CaRe oF tHaT.
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To all the ladies whining and bitching about Ross, welcome to the world of guys who have come across some chick attempting to write her own sex column. If you seriously think that the female gender has a more mature outlook on sexual relationships, and how to write about them and post their writings online, it's time for someone to suggest to you that, No, they generally don't. On the LAist alone, I have read about some dude's dick size being so big that it hurts to fuck (go figure), that nice guys are really mean guys because they are soooo needy and terribly socially awkward (aw, shucks), and body hair just needs to be removed from this planet altogether (too bad for me).
Anyway, you do realize that your clicks and comments are simply securing Ross and his sweaty stories of his Swedish sweety a permanent spot along the side of the front page of LAist, right? Your constant complaints about Ross has told any editor looking for the accumulation of clicks (for advertising purposes) that Mr. Jeffries can indeed increase readership of this blog. No editor, in his right mind, would avoid this scenario.
Welcome to the Age of Irony, Ladies. You're all so hilarious. I look forward to your hysteria in Part III.