LAist: "Bomb Scare" or Bomb Scare?

guest

Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:11:22 -0800

Wowza. These are the best comments I've read in a while. It baffles me that someone would take the time to complain about something that his participation is of his own free will. I know the internet has been reduced to just 3 pages, but c'mon. Good on you for standing your ground, Tony.

hc

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:27:32 -0800

I like the LAist, but I am put off by Tony's rude remarks to commentators. I know this is a blog but honestly I have assumed (wrongly, as Tony has pointed out) that the LAist (and most Gothamist sites) aim to follow basic journalistic standards. I think that editorial comments should be kept on a profesionnal level, even if they are a response to juvenille or unprofessional comments. I honestly haven't seen other bloggers lash out like this at commentators who criticize them and I'm surprised that this considered acceptable behavior here.

Tony Pierce

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:30:57 -0800

youre an old man cuz you cant see that yr answers are on the scoreboard now go hail a cab, stockton

guest

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:36:10 -0800

Dear Tony. "A Freaking Internet Superstar? Are you really *that* insecure? Yes, I am a negative commenter on laist, because laist deserves negative commenting. Yes, I think New York is better than L.A., but that doesn't mean I hate L.A. I moved to New York from L.A. and I want to return to L.A., despite it's flaws. If I'm not in New York, I'll be in L.A. or vice versa. They are the only two cities I care to live in. This is why I started reading laist in the first place after having run across gothamist. This is also why laist is SO disappointing as a blog about L.A. Only the Gothamist style format is good, but you mange to screw that up on a daily basis. If your blog was really any good Tony, I wouldn't complain, but it's not good, it's bad. Really bad. I also don't really get all this "old man" and "grampa" comments? Care to explain that one? It's a bit weird, but consider the source. P.S. Tony, when are you going to answer the questions about your "professinalism"? Will you ever? Or wil you keep ignoring it???

Tony Pierce

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:10:10 -0800

oh Joe, if you keep this up people are going to start thinking that i've gotten bored and started writing to myself, because your alley-oops are so easy to slam home. this summer millions of people came to LAist. last summer we attracted barely over a half million. and yes it's true that you and a handful of others have raised concerns about this or that. but in any business, if you can quadruple readership in one year, despite increased competition (including the launch of over a dozen new blogs by the local newspapers and the weekly) and the amount of people who whimper bs can be counted on one hand then you should not worry about the east coast peanut gallery who dont know the first thing about blogging, but instead you should consider yourself a freaking internet superstar. thank you for noticing. im proud that an anonymous negative commentor who thinks that NY is better than LA hates this blog. it's just more proof that we're on the right path. when even the haters are obsessed with what youre doing, thats called a crossover hit, john stockton. and youre soaking in it.

Joe Aguirre

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:36:43 -0800

Tony, you have some real issues. And you still are a really really piss poor "editor" and laist is still a very poor blog under your "leadership". You also have never answered my own as well as others comments on your conduct in the forums as the fearless leader of laist. You keep ignoring it. I am not the only one who has made these observations Tony, I'm only the one who has made them the "loudest" as you say, and has directly challenged you for the poor job you do.

Tony Pierce

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:39:54 -0800

well now this all makes so much more sense. you think this is supposed to be journalism. old man, dont let all the readers and all the ads and all coverage and the huge photos and raw videos and 24/7 hard work fool you - this is a blog. what we're doing here is called blogging. i know its blogging because if it was journalism i couldnt invite you to kiss my ass. journalism is what you do when you cant get paid to blog. this isnt your lawn we're walking on grampa, it's ours. and youre walking on it. and if we want to grow weeds on it or have sex on it or let bands from everywhere play on it, or misspell on it, we dont need your dumb permission. as someone who blogged in LA for years before getting this job, i wasnt very aware of jen chung, the woman whose name you keep invoking. but now that i have had the pleasure to work for her and watch her do her thing every day, i can comfortably say that jen chung is the greatest blogger of all time. she edits gothamist, executive edits all the others, works a "real" job, and knocks out thousands of beefy posts a year. and has done so for years and years and years. when you distract yourself with random typos or misspellings on a jen chung post you're mirroring miltons satan who was mesmerized by the golden sidewalks lining the streets of heaven raise yr eyes and take in the glory of paradise when you read her on gothamist, greatest city blog of all time. and you check yourself when you come back to LAist. we're blogging here and not trying to be whatever you think professional is. a pro blogger's job is not to parrot old media, a pro blogger's job is to keep it real. journalists fucking wish they could do that.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:38:11 -0800

joe is a troll twat hahah.. love it.

Joe Aguirre

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:17:20 -0800

“yes im a haack "joe" but i will answer to a few of your concerns. Anti, tomdog and april like many writers before them use pennames. Anti and tom established theirs well before LAist even existed, and April uses hers because of the nature of her pieces. believe it or not buddy but not everyone wants to write about their sex life using their real name. shocker i know. but whats important with her stories and any other author on LAist or off of it is that they remain real and honest, thus a pen name.”" Your excuses for the writers that use pen names are just that. Excuses. First of all, it doesn’t matter that “April Smear” might lose her job because of what she writes. What she writes doesn’t belong on laist in the first place. As for the rest of your writers with pen names, if they can’t put their real name on it, then don’t put it out there at all. If you want to be taken seriously as a journalist, put your name on it. How often do writers at the New York Times or the Los Angeles Times use pen names? you call us wannabes, but then you demand that we write and edit and do things exactly like Gothamist. as much as we really do love Gothamist, and as much as I respect Jen and Jake, we're *not* wannabes. we are LAist and we do things differently here. you can scream and bitch and whine and troll all you want but we are doing exactly what you want us to do: be ourselves. I want you to do what? I never said that. LA is different than NY. therefore LAist will be different that Gothamist. before i showed up on LAist we weren't even in the top 5 of most visited Ist sites. Jake and Jen hired me and said, "this is your baby, do with it whatever you want." and i asked about how much LA-centric stories they wanted here and they said, "this is your baby, do with it whatever you want. and if people in LA are talking about a national or international topic, cover it." it's now over a year later, LAist has consistently been the second-most read Ist blog - second only to Gothamist. over a year later there are now two Ist blogs in the Technorati Top 1000 - guess which ones they are. laist succeeds in being the second most read gothamist llc blog inspite of you and your staff Tony, not because of you. New York and Los Angeles also happen to be the countries two largest cities. I think that explains the rankings., so when i say that my bosses love me, i mean it. and i love them right back. I’ll have to take your word for it. youre uptight that we cover music so well. sorry but LA is the music capital of the world. next. If a band is from L.A., or is currently performing gigs in L.A., go ahead and write about them. If they’re just some band who came out with a record and live somewhere else, forget it. They can get their coverage elsewhere. as for my staff. unlike gothamist who has a budget to pay their writers, LAist works with a volunteer staff, some of whom are professional journalists, j-school grads, current students, and others from all walks of life. they are the real reason why LAist is so popular. and the LA Times agrees which is why they snatched two of our editors (our Film editor and our Sports editor) to write for them, and the LA Daily News agrees which is why they snatched our Music editor for LA.com, and the unofficial apple blog agrees which is why they took our Tech editor. they are all now professional journalists. so guess who else loves me - those publications and those editors who now get paid to write. Those publications don’t love you, they loved the work of a few individual contributors to the bog. I don’t think they even cared whether what those writers wrote was relevant to what last should be, they just saw that those writers had potential to fit in correctly in their organizations. Once again those writers have succeeded in spite of you and the blog, not because of the blog. none of those people were editors before I showed up here. not everyone starts off here writing masterpieces, but those 4 showed that if you stick to it, and ignore the ignorant trolls, like you, and listen to people like me, their writing will improve, they will get noticed, and their dreams will come true. so you dont want LAist to have any sex stories, marijuana reviews, music coverage, or posts about things not specifically related to LA. fine, duly noted. if ever we want to appease our loudest troll of the week, we will stop that. Tony, I am not the only one who has made these complaints. You just ignore them. I have been the loudest though. but only a fool would fix what's not broken. LAist continues to dwarf our local competition and we continue to get linked by blogs around the world, invited to red carpets, written up in Time, and hired by the big boys. Only a fool would not see that the staff and leadership of laist is totally broken. I also didn't know that being invited to "red carpets" gives you credibility. Get real. so pardon us if we ignore the whines from annoyed cowards on the wrong coast who want us to fit in their little box. that has never been what LA has ever been about. therefore we will keep on doing what got us here, west coast style. You seem to make a big deal of the fact that I live in New York. What difference does it make? If I lived in Dubuque, Iowa, it shouldn’t matter. I read the blog, that’s all that matters. And just so you know, I lived in L.A. for eleven years, from 1988-1999, and attended USC. I moved to New York just over 8 years ago and will probably be here for another 2-5 years before I return to resettle in L.A. As much as I love New York, and consider it the greatest city in the country and maybe even the greatest city in the world, I don’t want to live here the rest of my life here. The weird thing is that you actually thought that by posting my IP address you would scare me or somehow humiliate me and that by posting my location you gleaned through a "who is" of said IP address would somehow discredit me. It does not. I’ll give you credit for one thing though and that is not posting my full IP address in public. Even you are smart enough to know that once you start posting information publicly that can begin to pin point the exact location of a person you are treading on dangerous legal water. that tingling means its working. What tingling? Your own that you feel everytime you pump yourself up in public? signed, tony pierce haack I do also want to address your professionalism, something to which you have never responded too. I don’t know if or where you went to Journalism school, but editors of publications that wish to be taken seriously do NOT attack people who leave comments the way you do. They do NOT delete some posts while leaving others on display to artificially shape the conversation and try to make themselves look better. They do NOT go back and edit their own posts after the fact when people who comment do not have that option and then go back and actually have the audacity to edit one of the users comments and put in your own words. Yeah, Tony, the Los Angeles Times will be knocking on your door to hire you REAL soon. If bloggers want to be taken seriously as real professional journalists, bloggers should from an association, that has certain journalistic standards and that all members of said association would abide by in order to retain membership. Correct spelling and grammar (hint Jen Chung) should go without saying. Until then, no one will ever take bloggers seriously as real professional journalists.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:10:46 -0800

And I couldn’t get into MIT. Another example of someone that is probably very book smart, but is an ‘idiot’ when it comes to applying it. Really, really? MIT and you wear something like that to an airport involved in 9/11? Really? America is screwed if this is our ‘best and brightest’.

Joe Aguirre

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:47:22 -0800

Dear JP. I don't consider myself a journalist like the editor and staff of laist do. I don't have to live to up the same set of standards that the laist staff do. I can dash off a reply here complete with spelling and grammatical errors and it's okay. I don't have to take my time, I can type fast, make typos, it doesn't matter. But if you are a staff member, it DOES matter. People who comment are simply not held to the same standards. However, to make you happy, I will write all of my posts first in a text editor and then spell check it before posting starting from the next post forward. Why all the hate towards Tony Pierce? That's already been stated.

JP

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:25:20 -0800

the best part about joe calling tony a haaack editor? dude has issues with basic elements of the queen's english: "But this flys over the head of professional and competent editor Tony Pierce..." it's been a while since college, but that should read 'But this flies...', right? also: "If April Smear doesn't want to sign her name because she rights about sex..." again, I think that should be 'writes about sex...'. why all the hate, joe?

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:48:14 -0800

The key with security propaganda...is to keep high tensions in the subject population, the subject pop. will eventually become helplessly paranoid because it takes so much energy to track all the threats. The subject then will surrender willingly to every security situation like a well trained animal. This article - from CNN propaganda machine - describes the animal training quite clearly. http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/21/bomb.hoax/ " She was told to stop, raise her hands and make no movements, and she followed those directions, said Maj. Scott Pare, the airport commanding officer for the Massachusetts State Police. "It's good that she responded," he said. "She's lucky she's in a jail cell rather than the morgue." Pare said officers with automatic weapons had been called to the scene." - CNN YES. KILL ALL THE ARTISTS. SHE'S LUCKY SHE'S NOT IN THE MORGUE.

Joe Aguirre

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:47:48 -0800

"Instead of pursing an unnecessary and repetitive rant, before the piece publishes, find the local tie-in to the story. What do local conceptual artists and circuit-benders what they think of this artistic statement? What might LAX or Burbank Airport officials have done in this case? Pursue those leads and then make the story that much more informative and more closely L.A.-ist in slant." YES. Thank you. But this flys over the head of professional and competent editor Tony Pierce and most of his writers, while other "-ist" blogs are far more competent and actually do this kind of thing. The laughable thing is here they actually have the gall to compare themselves to the Los Angeles times and other real credible publications.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:42:08 -0800

Instead of pursing an unnecessary and repetitive rant, before the piece publishes, find the local tie-in to the story. What do local conceptual artists and circuit-benders what they think of this artistic statement? What might LAX or Burbank Airport officials have done in this case? Pursue those leads and then make the story that much more informative and more closely L.A.-ist in slant.

jeffro

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:42:33 -0800

wait, wait, wait.... vermin are not welcome here? I didn't know that rule. It seems kinda hateful, that anti-rodent sentiment. Rats Have Rights! Rats Have Rights! [As long as they don't come from the east coast (cause that's where The Plague comes from)]

Tony Pierce

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:12:50 -0800

ok one last time because you're clearly slow theres a difference between writing about deeply personal parts of your life as an author and being a cowardly jackass in the shadows waiting to snipe and retreat into the darkness. if you cant see that distinction then too bad. if a commentor has a good reason to be anonymous - like theyre telling us pertinent additional information about a topic that could possibly get them fired, then i have no problem with that. but when people like you come in and shit in our punchbowl for whatever reasons you have, and you dont have the courage to put your real name next to it, then your critique will give off the aroma of bullshit. if you have a problem with that you should go to any of the other 88 million blogs out there. which is what i heartily invite you to do because its clear that you allegedly have issues with me and everyone here. yet you come here almost every day to talk shit. that is the definition of a troll.

Joe Aguirre

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:56:19 -0800

Your self importance never ceases to amaze me Tony, but go ahead and call me a Troll for relentless criticizing the poor job that is laist. You also continue to be a hypocrite. If April Smear doesn't want to sign her name because she rights about sex, and Anti doesn't want to sign his name because he writes about drugs, they people who post comments here, of any sort, should not have to register with their "real names" either. Tony, you're still a loser and a poor editor and your staff still is the worst of all the "-ist" webistes. Call me a troll all you want Tony. You'll always be a the wannabe loser you are when it comes to this blog.

Tony Pierce

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:48:20 -0800

yes im a haack "joe" but i will answer to a few of your concerns. Anti, tomdog and april like many writers before them use pennames. Anti and tom established theirs well before LAist even existed, and April uses hers because of the nature of her pieces. believe it or not buddy but not everyone wants to write about their sex life using their real name. shocker i know. but whats important with her stories and any other author on LAist or off of it is that they remain real and honest, thus a pen name. you call us wannabes, but then you demand that we write and edit and do things exactly like Gothamist. as much as we really do love Gothamist, and as much as I respect Jen and Jake, we're *not* wannabes. we are LAist and we do things differently here. you can scream and bitch and whine and troll all you want but we are doing exactly what you want us to do: be ourselves. LA is different than NY. therefore LAist will be different that Gothamist. before i showed up on LAist we weren't even in the top 5 of most visited Ist sites. Jake and Jen hired me and said, "this is your baby, do with it whatever you want." and i asked about how much LA-centric stories they wanted here and they said, "this is your baby, do with it whatever you want. and if people in LA are talking about a national or international topic, cover it." now over a year later, LAist has consistently been the second-most read Ist blog - second only to Gothamist. over a year later there are now two Ist blogs in the Technorati Top 1000 - guess which ones they are. so when i say that my bosses love me, i mean it. and i love them right back. youre uptight that we cover music so well. sorry but LA is the music capital of the world. next. as for my staff. unlike gothamist who has a budget to pay their writers, LAist works with a volunteer staff, some of whom are professional journalists, j-school grads, current students, and others from all walks of life. they are the real reason why LAist is so popular. and the LA Times agrees which is why they snatched two of our editors (our Film editor and our Sports editor) to write for them, and the LA Daily News agrees which is why they snatched our Music editor for LA.com, and the unofficial apple blog agrees which is why they took our Tech editor. they are all now professional journalists. so guess who else loves me - those publications and those editors who now get paid to write. none of those people were editors before I showed up here. not everyone starts off here writing masterpieces, but those 4 showed that if you stick to it, and ignore the ignorant trolls, like you, and listen to people like me, their writing will improve, they will get noticed, and their dreams will come true. so you dont want LAist to have any sex stories, marijuana reviews, music coverage, or posts about things not specifically related to LA. fine, duly noted. if ever we want to appease our loudest troll of the week, we will stop that. but only a fool would fix what's not broken. LAist continues to dwarf our local competition and we continue to get linked by blogs around the world, invited to red carpets, written up in Time, and hired by the big boys. so pardon us if we ignore the whines from annoyed cowards on the wrong coast who want us to fit in their little box. that has never been what LA has ever been about. therefore we will keep on doing what got us here, west coast style. that tingling means its working. signed, tony pierce haack

Zach Behrens

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:32:40 -0800

Jeffro, point taken about the Uzis. I may have read or heard that somewhere, but then again, wherever I got that info was a source that was probably sensationalizing it and by me using it, I even furthered that sensationalized fact. And to those who think this is not about LA, did not not mention a story about the LAPD? It's actually a true one too :)

Joe Aguirre

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:20:38 -0800

Here you go, happy now you loser? If you were a man, Tony, you'd let my comments stand, but you show your unprofessinalism by manipulating the conversation by deleteing comments, attacking posters for negative comments, and whining and crying hypocritically about people who don't register and sign their "names" when you have staffers on laist who sign their posts as "Anti" "TomDog" and "April Smear". What kind of loser are you Tony? I seem to have really gotten under your skin, which is quite laughable. Jen Chung takes tons of criticism for her poor grammar and spelling, yet she doesn't pull any of the shit you do, nor does she edit users comments (another oh so professional move by you). Yes, Tony, I DO want to "smear laist" if "smearing laist" means giving you and your staff flack for the poor job you do. If you had "guts" as youc all it as an editor, you would let stand and post my comments you choose to hid to distort the nature of this conversation. You're a haack Tony Pierce, face it.

Tony Pierce

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:49:48 -0800

Location: United States [City: Astoria, New York] Answer: 208.59.xxx.xxx PTR record: 208-59-xxx-xxx.c3-0.43d-ubr4.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com. [TTL 86400s] 8 - wait- you dont even live here! you live in NY?! why on earth would you ever think we would listen to trolls from new york trying to tell us what to do in LA on our blog? trying to start some east coast west coast squabble, Biggie? get off the crack pipe. i dont mind negative criticism one bit. just not from east coast cowards who have no balls to sign their name next to it. i always thought the east coast had guts. guess theres exceptions everywhere. so yeah if you want to bash me and my staff from the other side of the country, register with your real name, and spew all the garbage you want. but if you dont even have the guts to put your name next to it, we will assume that you have an agenda in polluting our comments with your nonsense and you dont really believe what you are saying, you just want smear LAist last chance tough guy

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:44:48 -0800

Dear Tony, YOU ARE VERMIN and YOU ARE THE BIGGEST TROLL. Delete this, go ahead, but I KNOW YOU WILL READ THIS. YOU ARE INCOMPETENT. YOUR STAFF IS INCOMPETENT. YOU CANNOT HANDLE NEGATIVE CRITICISM. YOU ARE A LOSER WHO THINKS HE IS GREAT. And in short, YOU'RE WORTHLESS. AND MY NAME IS NOT "JOE AGUIRE"

Tony Pierce

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:34:37 -0800

Joe, i'm gonna tell you one last time these very important things that you dont seem to understand 1 - not every post is going to fit into your limited view of what YOU think should be on LAist 2 - the people who own the Gothamist LLC sites and who write and edit Gothamist LOVE me and LOVE what i have done with LAist since i started on 6/6/06 3 - nobody who has any muscle or power at LAist gives a shit about negative anonymous whiners who dont sign in and who Only bitch. 4 - nowhere on this site does it say that we will only be covering things that specifically have to do with LA news, and just because 99% of what we do is about LA doesnt mean that we're bound to keep the other 1% about LA 5 - there's a reason that elise brought up the LA Times, the LA Weekly, local news, local radio, and anything with the name LA in it - because when you compare LAist to those outlets you will see that they have a much lower percentage of stories that are LA-centric than LAist. 6 - we dont have any wannabe syndrome here. we are very comfortable with LAist as just the way it is. you are the one who is a wannabe. you wannabe the editor of LAist but guess what, stupid lazy bullshit cowards who cant even put their name on their nonsense make for lousy editors 7 - from now on, any time you comment as a "guest" in a negative way, it will be deleted because you are nothing more than a troll. and like vermin, trolls are not welcome here.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:23:45 -0800

"Someone better tell Los Angeles magazine, and the LA Weekly, and the LA Times that people in Los Angeles are not interested in anything that happens outside of Los Angeles. I think they are also incompetent and need your help. PS I believe that "Fuck the police" quote was from NWA if I'm not mistaken :)" God you maybe the third most (your incompetent editor as well as the jackass who reviews drugs are first and second) perfect example of the housecleaning that needs to take place at laist, starting from the TOP. laist is supposed to be a blog ABOUT L.A. laist is NOT the Los Angeles Times, it is NOT the LA Weekly and it is NOT Los Angeles magazine (but you all seem to suffer from a huge case of wannabe syndrome). This is what you guys DO NOT GET. Take the time to read other gothamist llc blogs, chiefly, Gothamist itself. You might also want to take a look at sfist and chicagoist and well, just about ALL the other gothamist llc blogs, and take a clue. by the way my name is Joe Aguire., and im a giant douche.

Andy Sternberg

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:08:38 -0800

So, how long until we're not allowed to carry-on hoodies or 9-Volt batteries. Will we ever win the War on Water?

jeffro

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:05:21 -0800

Man, if she had been spotted in a park, on the subway, or strolling down the sidewalk in front of a federal building I'd have some sympathy. But an airport? That's either an obvious stunt or she is freaking retarded. And if it was a stunt she is still freaking retarded b/c you should know that if you even flinch while a swat team is investigating what very well might be a bomb in your possession they do not tase you (bro), they shoot with intent to kill you before you can hit a detonator switch. It's just not a good premise for a college stunt (and I'm a supporter of stunts). I totally agree with your point of view, Zach, but let's be honest here, she had a circuit board with actual blinking lights on it attached to her hoodie IN AN AIRPORT. I agree that the prosecutor chose a sensationalist word in his statement, but still... People, you ought to check to see that your fly is zipped before you leave your house and you ought to check to see that your hoodie doesn't have a circuit board with blinking lights attached to it before you walk into the airport. Really, it won't take that much time out of your busy day. PS The police don't use Uzis. They use automatic weapons that still manage to hit their targets with accuracy, not Uzis that spray bullets all over a general direction. There's some sensationalist word-choice irony in your having written that.

Elise Thompson

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:04:14 -0800

Someone better tell Los Angeles magazine, and the LA Weekly, and the LA Times that people in Los Angeles are not interested in anything that happens outside of Los Angeles. I think they are also incompetent and need your help. PS I believe that "Fuck the police" quote was from NWA if I'm not mistaken :)

JP

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:36:18 -0800

most people can barely handle synching their iPods. how on earth are they supposed to tell the difference between an 'art project' made of LEDs, wires and a circuit board and a homemade bomb?! the ATHF thing was one thing, but marching into an airport in 2007 with something like this strapped to your chest?! she's unbelievable stupid and naive to think that this wouldn't get a response.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:34:51 -0800

it looks like a sweatshirt that has a logo that lights up, to me. i wouldnt really call that a threat, i would call it tacky maybe, but not a threat.

guest

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:31:29 -0800

Bostinist rocks! Oh wait, um, I'm confused, wait, this is....laist right? Oh, yeah, hmmm. Incompetent laist staff strikes again with more stuff that's NOT ABOUT L.A.!!!!