September 7, 2007
LA Booker Interview: Brian Smith of The Troubadour

If you go as far west as you can in West Hollywood on Santa Monica Blvd., right before you wind up in Beverly Hills you will see the Troubadour - one of the most famous rock clubs in the world - established in 1957.
Home of the Eagles, Jackson Browne, Elton John, and Linda Ronstadt in the '60s and '70s, the warm, rich club also saw the likes of Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, and Randy Newman among others. Lenny Bruce had even been arrested there for obscenity in the late '50s.
Many don't realize but despite the Troub's love for folk acts, it also opened its arms to metal and hard rock in the late '70s and early '80s with acts from KISS to Guns n Roses to Motley Crue gracing its small stage.
There are many places to hang out and hide at the Troubadour. There's the front bar, there's the back bar where you can even order food, there's the Attic, there's the seats in the balcony. There's so much history and so many rock n roll ghosts.
But the best part is the club is as vital as ever. This year alone has provided great shows from Dinosaur Jr., The Mars Volta, Crowded House and The Meat Puppets, among others.
As we continue our series on the men and women who bring the bands to you, we have Brian Smith of the Troubadour who answered our hard-hitting questions after the jump.

Name: Brian Smith
Club: Troubadour
Address: 9081 Santa Monica Blvd
Capacity: 501
What sort of bands normally play your club: Hopefully the good ones…
What are the most famous bands that have played your club: Elton John, Bob Dylan, Lenny Bruce, Tom Waits, Eagles, Buffalo Springfield, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, Captain Beefheart, the Byrds, Randy Newman, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Neil Diamond, Cat Stevens, Van Morrison, Leonard Cohen, Guns N Roses, Metallica, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against the Machine, Foo Fighters, Johnny Cash, Radiohead, Coldplay, Ben Harper, Fiona Apple, The Strokes, Wilco, White Stripes, The Killers, Arcade Fire , Elvis Costello.
Who is the owner of your club: The Karayan Family
How did you get your job booking shows?
I was lucky. I was in the right place at the right time and I made the most of the opportunity.
What types of previous skill sets or experiences made you qualified for this job?
Most importantly, I am passionate about music and the experience that an artist and the audience has at a concert. I am modestly organized, inquisitive, present…and I am easily engaged. I worked out my “cool kid” issues in high school so I know the difference between business and friendship.
What makes your club special or unique?
It has been around for 50 years. Life changing shows take place here that span generations; at the Troubadour, my folks saw Lenny Bruce and I saw Radiohead perform Ok Computer. The philosophy of the room is very simple and it is run very proficiently. I don’t think we will look back with embarrassment at how the club presents itself, in the way that perhaps Loverboy or Kip Winger might feel when they are alone and being self reflective.
As you figure out what bands to book, where are you trying to steer the club?
I am just humbly trying to add to the great history of The Troubadour. I love LA and I think this room means a lot to the people that live here. It would be nice if in 20 years people look back fondly on their memories of the shows that took place when I booked the room.
What's the biggest mistake bands make when they approach you trying to get booked?
There is no proper method. Being a quality band and making personal contact seems to work pretty well. Selling out a smaller club is a pretty good sales pitch. If a band gives me a hard sell and they don't draw a crowd...well, i would never book them again. It is best to make a strong impression on a booker on your first play because there are thousands of other artists dying to play a show...
What's the best thing bands can do to get booked at their favorite clubs?
Make some noise. I assume most bookers read the paper, look at music websites. Word of mouth is a powerful tool.
Who has been your mentor as far as showing you the ropes about booking?
Liz Garo.
If you weren't working where you are, what other rock club would you love
to book for?
The only other “club” that I would consider working for at this point is the one that is right on the beach in the south of France and is paying BIG euros. Sadly, they have yet to build this club.
What is the best show that you ever put together - or your favorite?
PJ Harvey, Patti Smith performing Horses, Joanna Newsom, Gogol Bordello, Explosions in the Sky
What is your favorite LA rock moment outside of the club you book for.
Nick Cave / Sinead O’Connor at the Wiltern
Flaming Lips at the Knitting Factory
The Breeders at The Echo
Elliott Smith at Spaceland
Gun Club / Pretenders at Viper Room
Geraldine Fibbers at Aaron Records parking lot
Tom Waits at The Shrine
Bjork at Palladium
Portishead at American Legion Hall
Fugazi at The Palace (now Avalon)
What's your second favorite place to see live music in LA, next to your
own club?
The Echo
What band would you die to have play at your club?
Roxy Music with Eno would be pretty nice but I would settle for Bob Dylan or Tom Waits or Captain Beefheart or Leonard Cohen or Nick Cave or Neil Young or Prince or The Smiths or Radiohead... So if you are reading this CALL ME!
*Previously in this series:*exterior photo of the club via Troubadour website, others by Tony Pierce for LAist
Patrick Llewellyn of Safari Sam's
Jennifer Tefft of Spaceland
Chris Diaz of The Knitting Factory




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Great read Tony. Man, B Smith has the coolest job...
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"if a band gives me a hard sell and they don't draw a crowd...well, i would never book them again"
one sad thing about LA clubs, they dont seem to be interested in developing bands, giving them a chance....they are just filling the room, -
even if a band has potential, a great press kit and CD - they wont book you until unless they have already read about you in the weekly, etc
and you cant get in the weekly unless you play the clubs....sigh its a catch-22
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I love the Troubadour. I wish every band would play there, though it seems like a lot of bands have moved onto larger clubs this year (Mates Of State, Mountain Goats, Hold Steady, The National...) I saw Okkervil River there on Tuesday and John Vanderslice last night. Both great. (Though do you guys have a new lighting guy, because there were weird things going on with the lights both nights...)
The first show I ever saw there was Crooked Fingers, when Bachmann was touring for the first self titled album. It was my first show in LA (I think)...I was a freshman at USC and didn't have a car. But a friend did. He wasn't into music, but I convinced him to go with me. I wasn't allowed to sit at the bar because I wasn't 21 yet. I have no idea who the other bands were that played. But Crooked Fingers came on and Eric Bachmann played the first part of the set in the middle of the floor, with maybe only about 40 people standing and sitting around him in a circle (maybe it wasn't the few, but that's the way I remember it). Some guy shouted out "This is better then sex" during one of the songs. That was a weird thing to say. After the show Bachmann sat on the side of the stage selling shirts.
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Just a couple of years ago, Snow Patrol was playing there and for free at Amoeba, really easy to talk to and get my CD's signed. Even played for a small crowd at Tower Sunset (God, I miss that place!).
It seems partly up to the band to drum up their own business: Snow Patrol was playing all over and even for free, treating every fan like they mattered. Who is out there now about to break just as big?
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How about guns n roses huh? great band to have seen in thier la club days... they were like reckless really..... and axl rose.. huge he would become...
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i think what he is saying, cutephase, is if a band says "oh yeah we're gonna bring 300 people - we're HUGE in Modesto!" and 20 people show up, he's going to be less likely to get burned again.
The Troub has lots of national acts, but if you pay attention they have lots of local bands, who dont get written about in the Weekly, on that stage.
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not only is the music and vibe amazing at Troubadour....they also make a mean jack and coke. ;)