LAist: I really want to know Victoria's Secret

swimsummer25

Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:29:15 -0800

if anybody has a problem with victoria secret dont shop there or your kides but the people who do please dont ruwin it for them please that way everybody gets there way...

swimsummer25

Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:26:25 -0800

oh and also if any body have a problm about victoia secret dont go there or dont let your kides just dont ruwin it for every body eles this way every body have there way..

swimsummer25

Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:58:00 -0800

okey you must be really bored.... cuz its just a type of brand sorta thing...its not that big a deal... and your just saying that it wierd or wat ever to have it say on it but or shirt....its no defrent than haveing shorts from target that say angle on the but or something or on the shirt but no ones complaning about that. You need to find soemthing eles better to do just cuz you dont like it dont mean you have to ruwin it for every boddy eles that likes that brand. i mean come on ~if any boddy agress please let me no...

tequilaanddonuts

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:59:57 -0800

pfffffttttt... I can not believe you took the time to explain the intricacies of the "Pink" marketing plan. duh - I believe that everyone KNOWS that PINK is describing that facet of VS targeted to that particular demographic. It's just the dumbass (pun intended) irony of having your ass festooned with the message of undying PINK LOVE when you aren't wearing ANY PINK. Call me a prude, but I don't believe that every tween and teen ass should be viewed as a marketing opportunity for a corporation. But it's good to know, samiam1729, that you're just peachy docky with it all.

Malingering

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:57:07 -0800

I have been in Victoria's Secret. I also know that they sell panties for "tweens" that say TAKE MY PHOTO on the ass.

Malingering

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:56:42 -0800

I have been in Victoria's Secret. I also know that they sell panties for "tweens" that say TAKE MY PHOTO on the ass. http://www.therealmalingering.com/2008/01/24/i-have-too-gone-into-victorias-secret/

Beeker

Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:48:43 -0800

Yeah, Mal. Holy shit. It's not like you're a WOMAN or anything and/or have been under a rock for the past 20 years or so and have absolutely no knowledge about Victoria's Secret or what they sell. And how dare you have an opinion. Holy shit. It's people like you with your opinions that make the terrorists win. [end sarcasm]

samiam1729

Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:52:32 -0800

I have worked at Victoria's Secret for the past two years, and worked specifically in the Pink room. For those unaware, Victoria's Secret separates its sub-brands (Pink, Angels, Body by Victoria, etc.) by room. And honestly, all the points brought up in your blog entry, as well as the comments made in regards to it, I've heard it several times. And I just want to make a couple things clear for the record. First off, you can only imagine how much I enjoy having to explain several times throughout my work shift that "Pink" refers to the brand rather than the color. It is beyond me why people will take the brand name so literally. I don't see people complaining that Wet Seal doesn't actually have anything to do with hosed down seals balancing beach balls on their noses. And if you look at it from a products and marketing stand point, it would be pretty ridiculous to create an entire line that only consisted of pink colored clothing because people want to take the brand name so literally. Secondly, most things sold in Victoria's Secret are not for little teenage girls, and thats why it is not marketed to them. But of course, thats not going to keep them out of the store. So as a solution and also a way to gain a profit, Victoria's Secret created the Pink line. This way teens had a sub-brand specifically for their age group. The Pink line has lounge wear (can be both clothing or pajamas) with bright colors and cute prints. The bras are also made in smaller sizes for teen girls. Most of the bras in the Pink collection are basic t-shirt bras in either basic solid colors or cute prints. Sure, I'll find teens in other sub-brand rooms that probably aren't age appropriate for them, but I'll also find ladies in their 30's, 40's, 50's, and even 60's shopping in Pink (for themselves). We don't market for this to happen, but we have no control over it. I hope this clarifies your qualms with Victoria's Secret and our Pink line. And for someone who does not shop at Victoria's Secret, and seems to have no knowledge of the company or its sub-brands other than seeing people wearing our products, I'd say either research what you're about to talk about or stick to things you actually know.

guest

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:52:05 -0800

I don't see anything wrong with Victoria's Secret PINK line. "Pink" is everywhere because that is the name of the line. Get it? Obviously you don't. They are not sexualizing these little 15-year-old white girls, media is. If you go the panty bar, firt off, only 20% of the panties are actually thongs. Everything else are boyshorts and regular ole panties. Their intention is not go show off your thongs to your science partner, it's for girls to actually like their bodies. Who wants to wear granny panties just because they're a size 9? And it's the parents fault if they're even allowing their pre-teens or teens to wear thongs & G-string in the first place.

guest

Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:22:56 -0800

im 18 and i think vs pink is just style of cloth. i wear vs pink sweats and panties, but i think your goin over board with the if its not pink why does it say pink thing, its just the name of the cloth line if u dont like it then dont buy it. u dont have to make up silly names about what pink stands for like "pink stands for pussy inside needs a kiss", your talking about how pink is some kind of sex clothing line and how kids shouldnt have sex or have dirty inaproprite clothing, when u come up with a thing like... "stands for pussy inside needs a kiss" it seems to me your just some crzy bitch who cares way to much about what other people wear!

guest

Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:25:08 -0800

i honestly hink that its just another crzy fad. im sure when u guys were 15 u wore something that everybody thought was cool and popular. im not saying its good to encourage girls to wear thongs and g-strings or anything like that im just saying its what kids like these days. i mean im 19 i wear victoria secret not pink, but i dont think the line is stupid or anything i mean seriously it just clothing who cares what other people wear u should just care about what u wear. it there body's they can wear whatever they want to wear.

guest

Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:42:01 -0800

I have to say that I worked at Victoria's Secret for 3 years as a manager and I have to laugh at this all. I actually ended up quitting because I had a better job Opportunity that would allow me to stay away from kids! I agree (along with many of my workers) that young girls recieve so much pressure to act older and fit in with the girls who are buying into this stuff. I also agree they should wait a few years before they walk into those VS doors. I hated to be the one to sell sexy panties and sleepwear to a girl that could not even drive. As for VS though. They are not these girls' mothers. My mother never bought me anything VS. Not even when i started working there. I see way too many mothers bringing their girls in and actually encouraging sexy panties. This sickened me. But with all this said, you have to give VS some serious credit. They launched this line and it has taken over the profit margin for them. Not only do they have people loving it, but they have tons of people hating it, no matter what side your on, you talk about it. That is the genious about it. The only bad publicity is no publicity. Remember that when you blog and complain. -Sam

guest

Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:39:36 -0800

I don't get this either. I think that any word found on clothes, unless it DOES make real sense to everyone, it's totally tacky and looks horrible. Being from Argentina and reading this amazes me. I never thought that people could reach this amount of consumerism, and this comes from a person that has very materialistic people around her! I think they just like it because it's Victoria's Secret who launched this line. If it were some other brand, it would have been ignored, even frowned upon. Nowadays, people live to spend or that is what they think. I almost don't spend any money in clothes, and I'm a perfectly happy person. Learn from my example. :D

meowhous

Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:33:54 -0800

There's nothing wrong with spending all your money and your parent's money on cute undies! Fuck college and all that getting ahead crap!!! There's honor and dignity in any job that only needs you to be able to say, "Would you like fries with that?" I have no status and no pride without the permission of my Corporate Masters--there is no finer statement than that.

cmgrowl

Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:15:49 -0800

It is a great marketing ploy to bring in younger customers. Too bad they don't recognize it as such. They probably just think it is all "cute". The color issue doesn't bother me so much. I think of it as a brand name and not a color. The slogans bother me because they are too dumb for words. But I guess im old as h3ll. sux.

guest

Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:15:56 -0800

BTW, Victoria's secret? "She's" Victor. Thank you very much, folks, good night. -redteam

guest

Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:21:27 -0800

I enjoyed your abrasive commentary. Personally, anything written across the ass is just ridiculous; it screams fad-ish kitch. Perhaps they're all colorblind?

Anti

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:45:57 -0800

this was hilarious, for sure.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:37:35 -0800

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fredcamino

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:15:27 -0800

ur 2taly old 2 gonzo. sux h4rd. wutz wrong w. micky d'z btw? r u 2 gud 4 n honest j0b? k bi. ps-- srry u cnt see thru da system uv "prpr" sp3llin. ur a sh33p. k33p sp3llin da "rite" wey, c if i cur.

Malingering

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:56:17 -0800

[1] Wow, what a creative and refreshing idea. No one's ever thought of that before. You are a genius. I will gladly don PINK asswriting panties and post photos of myself, as long as I don't personally have to purchase the panties because I think they're a waste of money. However, in the interest of fairness, you may only comment on the clothing and/or projections about why I am wearing the clothing, since that's all I did in the article above. But that would be really boring, because, well, I already did it. [9][19] I didn't say 15 year olds were stupid. In fact, I don't blame 15 year olds for anything. However I do blame Victoria's Secret for buying into this culture of sexualizing and objectifying teen girls. I'd rather encourage them to see themselves as physicists or lawyers or successful businesswomen rather than sex objects. Of course 15 year olds think about sex. That's not the point. Come on, we were all 15 once. Well, except for me. I emerged from the womb as a 26 year old and that's why I have such trouble conceptualizing tweenhood. "Say hi to a 15 year old girl sometime"? At what point in this article did I say I live in a cave and have no human contact? Hold on, let me scroll up and look...

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:54:36 -0800

I hate Pink. Both the color and this stupid clothing line. Why is it that most of clothing I see in this line is rarely pink? Lemmings is right. (and dammit, LAist, I can't sign in to comment! Bring back TypeKey!) wskrz

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:44:42 -0800

Does cute underwear = thongs? 'Cause you can't honestly tell me that 15 year olds are thinking about how fashionable they are with that constant, nagging wedgie. That's either because they are impressionable and/or they're wearing it because they think the boyfriend wants to see it.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:36:47 -0800

god. reading your post made ME feel like i was 15 again, but with a much stricter mom and having to justify an interest in adorable undies. kids who care about clothes want to wear cute underwear. it doesnt mean they are having sex. it may mean they WISH someone was seeing them in their undies but what's wrong with that at age 15? seeing people in their undies doesn't always lead to sex, anyway. it's alllll part of growing up. i think the clothes are ugly as fuck but if there weren't people out there WEARING these ugly as fuck clothes then we wouldn't have anything to talk about right? how boring that would be.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:32:56 -0800

Mal, you're right on the money on this one. Not only is this PINK fad the stupidest clothing line I've ever seen, it makes no sense. Is PINK supposed to stand for something? Or are people just so desperate to belong to something (fad/sorority/club/whatever) that they fall into this and many other marketing schemes like lemmings falling off a cliff? And Fred, the only thing that "sux" is your inability to use a few extra keystrokes to get your point across. You still need to know how to spell properly if you want to fill out that application for that job at McDonalds. Agreed, Mushroom. I miss TypeKey. ~Gonzo

Elise Thompson

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:16:37 -0800

It's like in the movie THEY LIVE. When you put on special sunglasses, you see the word SATAN. As in, "I live for SATAN." and "SATAN forever and ever and ever." PS. Let me know when you want me to come over and do the tubal ligation. We just need some Vicodan, a pair of manicure scissors, and a shoelace.

fredcamino

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:34:34 -0800

ur old as h3ll. sux.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:04:39 -0800

To CarrieM: Not everything has to do with irony..they probably just didn't want to register.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:39:54 -0800

Post #4, does "guest" status really make a difference? I guess they could make a name up, like you could've. Bring on the Mal picture fun!

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:07:10 -0800

The first two guests apparently haven't been to Mal's Flickr stream. Plenty of pix of the author to laugh over, some on purpose. :) Another good article, speaking more truth than some people want to hear. Junior high kids should not be echoing vaginal marketing but that's what is in and has been since Madonna wandered around with her underwear on the outside... and I love the dischord of items not in the pale-red range being labelled Pink. Ce n'est pas une pipe. Missing TypeKey already... « mushroom »

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:51:51 -0800

Kids ARE dumb. Their brains aren't done growing. That's why their parents are supposed to keep them from having sex from each other.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:50:35 -0800

First of all, if you read LAist, you make fun of people. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Second, can you believe that in a hundred years, we're gone from, basically full body underwear, wearing a hat every time you go out to...sweatpants and jeans that show your thong. It's not really a step forward, is it? I always though that Pink was VS's way of maximizing on the Juicy trend. And finally, I hate people who wear words on their asses.

Johnny

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:46:51 -0800

Remember the episode that dealt somewhat on this topic. The Paris Hilton episode. Stupid Spoiled Whore Original air Date: 2004-12-01 All the fourth grade girls idolize a rich, famous and spoiled socialite. They even have her brand new toy set that comes complete with video camera, night vision filter, play money and losable cell phone. In an effort to impress their idol, the girls pursue the boys to make their own videos. Kids may not be as dumb as we think but they are naive, impressionable, and most of the times exploited by adults and big business.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:55:57 -0800

I hate to break it to you but 15 year old girls aren't that concerned about backpacks anymore. Though I don't think that everyone is running around boning like monkeys, 15 year olds are definitely getting naked around each other and want to wear something other than the girl form of tighty whiteys. Is the PINK fad insanely stupid? Yes. Is a 15 year old girl experimenting with her own sexual expression insanely stupid? No. Say hi to a 15 year old girl sometime. You might be pleasantly surprised by her intelligence...or she'll just run away screaming, either way. I'm a high school tutor and they're not always as dumb as you think. ~P

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:38:05 -0800

Also, why would anyone ever need to wear sweatpants in June... in LA?!?!?

angel g

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:15:31 -0800

"a new backpack for school with lots of pockets for highlighters" I think we are soulmates

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:08:18 -0800

this is the same exact thing i was thinking when this shit came out. even the crap juicy sold i was against it. it's ugly fashion that a lot of people fell for.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:06:48 -0800

"pussy inside needs a kiss" you have just made me spit up my breakfast. thats hilarious. - Mike

CarrieM

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:03:47 -0800

I would point out the irony of Guests #1 & 3 making their comments anonymous, but I have a feeling it would be lost on this crowd.

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:55:57 -0800

i agree with the first post

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:49:13 -0800

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS PINK THING!!!!

guest

Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:32:50 -0800

Hey Malingering- Wouldn't it be fun to post a picture of yourself for your next entry so we can make fun of you? Let's do it! Can you handle a dose of your own medicine? Give us a front a rear shot and let's go to town! Fun! We talk about how you look and what you're wearing, wow, the possibilities are endless!