LAist: "One day this shit isn't going to be people running. One day people are gonna be prepared for police to come and fuck with them."

wikipedia

Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:16:49 -0800

References 1. ^ a b Jack Dunphy (2007-05-03). May Day Madness. National Review Online. 2. ^ a b Patrick McGreevy and Richard Winton (May 30, 2007). Bratton issues report on melee. Los Angeles Times. 3. ^ a b Lawsuits Mount Over May Day Police Action In MacArthur Park. 4. ^ Patrick McGreevy and Richard Winton (May 27, 2007). Chief to explain police actions at rally. 5. ^ a b c d LAPD gets new tactics boss in wake of rally clash controversy. Associated Press (May 30, 2007). 6. ^ a b McGreevy (May 18, 2007). Probe sought of LAPD's May 1 use of force. Los Angeles Times. 7. ^ A reporter's account of the MacArthur Park Clash. Los Angeles Times (May 2, 2007). Retrieved on May 6, 2007. 8. ^ 9. ^ a b Bratton: Officers' Conduct May Be Inappropriate. KTLA (May 2, 2007). Retrieved on May 4, 2007. 10. ^ Police Terror in the Park. LA Indy Media (May 2, 2007). Retrieved on May 6, 2007. 11. ^ Police to Review Clash at LA Rally. AP (May 2, 2007). Retrieved on May 4, 2007. 12. ^ a b Andrew Glazer (May 5, 2007). LA Mayor Condemns Rally Violence. Associated Press. 13. ^ a b Small turnout, big questions. Los Angeles Times (May 2, 2007). Retrieved on May 6, 2007. 14. ^ Chief: FBI May Investigate LAPD Conduct At Rally (May 3, 2007). 15. ^ Mayor Villaraigosa Cuts Short Mexico Trip (May 4, 2007). 16. ^ Villaraigosa visits site of May Day melee. Los Angeles Times (May 7, 2007). Retrieved on May 11, 2007. 17. ^ Patrick McGreevy (May 2, 2007). Bratton oversees LAPD inquiry at critical time. Los Angeles Times. 18. ^ Saturday In The Park Is Quiet As Protesters Are No-Shows (May 5, 2007). 19. ^ a b MacArthur Park Peaceful Immigration Rally. Associated Press (May 19, 2007). 20. ^ Special Task Force To Hear Public Comment On May Day Police Action. KNBC (the local affiliate of NBC (May 14, 2007). 21. ^ Shouts, Jeers At Public Meeting Over May Day Police Action. KNBC (the local affiliate of NBC (May 15, 2007). 22. ^ Villaroman, Rene (May 22, 2007). 3,000 at MacArthur Park for Peaceful March. Asian Journal Online. 23. ^ Uranga, Rachel (May 17, 2007). Marchers rally at L.A. park as LAPD faces a legal challenge. Press Telegram. Retrieved on [[May 30, 2007]]. 24. ^ a b Lisa Hernandez (May 8, 2007). Bratton to Suggest Replacement for Demoted Official. 25. ^ Police Official Retires After May Day Clash. Associated Press (May 17, 2007). 26. ^ Geis, Sonya (May 8, 2007). Top LAPD Officers Disciplined for Use of Force at Rally. Washington Post. [edit] External links

wikipedia

Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:14:38 -0800

The incident Organizers obtained all the necessary permits to hold a pro-immigration rally at MacArthur Park on May 1, 2007 until 21:00. At about 17:15 a few protesters began blocking the street, which the rally permit expressly prohibited. When several people began pelting Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officers with rocks, bottles, and other debris, police commanders declared the gathering an unlawful assembly and gave an order to disperse. The order was broadcast from a police helicopter circling the park, from police cars, and from hand-held bullhorns as a line of police officers in riot gear advanced slowly, about 50 feet at a time, allowing those complying with the dispersal order to retreat.[1] The orders were given in English to a crowd of mostly Spanish speaking demonstrators.[2] According to lawsuits filed, the LAPD had approximately 600 officers on the scene, outnumbering the subset of protesters who threw "plastic water bottles and oranges" by about a 15 to 1 ratio.[3] All together, police fired 146 foam-rubber projectiles,[4] 27 marchers and 9 members of the media were injured, 5 people were arrested,[5] and at least 50 civilians filed complaints with the LAPD regarding mistreatment by officers.[6] 7[5] to 15[1] police officers were injured. News coverage of the event, particularly from KMEX Channel 34, suggested that most protesters were actually demonstrating peacefully, did nothing to provoke the LAPD, and left when the order was given. Video footage shows police striking with their batons at apparently non-combative protesters who disobeyed the order to disperse.[7] [8] The incident has received considerable attention from news media because many reporters were also pushed and beaten, notably Christina Gonzalez from L.A.'s Fox 11 News (KTTV)[9][1], and Telemundo's National Evening Broadcaster, Pedro Sevcec. Sanjukta Paul, a National Lawyer's Guild observer, was beaten repeatedly by a LAPD officer, including a blow to the kidneys, as she attempted to separate police from the crowd. [10] CBS 2/KCAL 9 (KCBS, KCAL-TV) reporter Mark Coogan and his cameraman Carl Stein, were also accosted. Stein was struck on the ribs by LAPD batons. [2] Patricia Nazario, a reporter for KPCC, was beaten in the ribs and back, before being struck over the head with a baton. ABC 7 (KABC-TV) reporter Sid Garcia was hit by a rubber bullet, but it ricocheted off him. [11] Patti Ballaz, a camerawoman for KTTV who was injured, filed a claim for unspecified damages against the city and the police department. [12] [edit] Response by government officials At a press conference later in the day, Police Chief William J. Bratton indicated that an investigation was underway to "determine if the use of force was appropriate," going on to state that "the vast majority of people who were [at MacArthur Park] were behaving appropriately." [9] [13] Bratton indicated he may ask the FBI to investigate the chain of events.[14] At the time of the events, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa was on a trip to Mexico. He cut his trip short three days later, in order to personally oversee the investigation of the chain of events,[15] and asked Police Chief Bratton to oversee a "complete and comprehensive review of this incident, including deployment, tactics, and use of force." [13] At a Sunday morning mass at Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels on May 6, Villaraigosa said "I come today with a heavy heart ... Nobody, nobody should be victimized in a way we saw women, children and families victimized just a few days ago."[16] Los Angeles city councilmember Herb Wesson, whose district includes neighborhoods near MacArthur Park, criticized the police response by comparing it to beating of civil rights leaders in the South in the 1960s. He praised Bratton's response, though, saying "I'm proud that the chief said quickly that some inappropriate actions took place." [17] Fabian Núñez, Speaker of the California Assembly whose district includes MacArthur Park where the events took place, condemned the actions of the police by saying "To say we are outraged is an understatement ... We want those responsible in the highest levels of the LAPD to pay consequences."[12] Robert Baker, president of the Police union, responded, calling Wesson's and Núñez's words "police bashing that erroneously insinuates racial bias".[18] [edit] Investigations Four separate investigations were created to investigate the incident,[19] one of them being a special task force set up by city council president Eric Garcetti. The task force is composed of five councilmembers, and is co-chaired by Los Angeles city councilmembers Ed Reyes and Jack Weiss [20][21]. The FBI also investigated the incidents for civil rights violations[5] On May 17, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a request with U.S. District Judge Gary A. Feess to look into whether the incident at MacArthur Park violated a 2001 consent decree which was a result of the Rampart scandal. If the judge finds the LAPD in violation of the decree, federal oversight of the LAPD could be extended beyond the current deadline of 2009.[6] On May 29, Chief Bratton presented to the civilian police commission a preliminary findings of an internal police investigation, and on May 30 he presented the preliminary findings to the Los Angeles City Council. According to Bratton, the main reasons for the mêlée were "a command and control breakdown," [which] began at the planning stages and dominoed throughout the event itself". [2] [edit] Community response On May 17, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 people marched in protest of the events that took place on May 1. The march started at a church 10 blocks west of MacArthur Park with a "town hall meeting", and ended at MacArthur Park. The march was peaceful, without a single arrest, and the town hall meeting featured speakers such as Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez[19][22], who later marched with the protesters. Police Chief William Bratton was also present at the march and town hall meeting.[23] [edit] Fallout On May 7, 2007 Chief William J. Bratton announced a departmental reorganization. Cayler "Lee" Carter, who was a deputy chief and the highest ranking official at scene, was demoted to commander and assigned home duty.[24] On May 17, Carter announced his resignation from the LAPD, effective June 6. [25] In his May 7 announcement, Bratton also announced that Carter's deputy, Louis Gray, would be reassigned to the operations bureau, and that about 60 officers who were involved in the incident would be taken off the street, pending the outcome of the investigations. [24][26] On May 9, the Multi-Ethnic Immigrant Workers Organizing Network filed a class-action suit against the Los Angeles Police Department and the city. [3] On May 30, Bratton announced the creation of a new Critical Incident Management Bureau, and assigned Deputy Chief Michael Hillmann to head the newly created bureau.[5]

Giancarlo

Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:14:02 -0800

I was there looking from my window, got home had no clue what happened and I can honestly say that there was no violence from the protesters. It was a peaceful demonstration until the police arrived. Luckily, I documented this police state tactic they pulled on the civilians that day. people.tribe.net/chemikal_thc/blog/f99b37d9-ceab-4eb7-99f6-d2edd0e7c390

Matt

Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:25:21 -0800

Hey Pants...I guess you're technically right that people should be happy they didn't get shot with an actual gun, but that's a really shitty argument if you're trying to say that people should ignore this situation. People aren't upset because they got shot with rubber bullets. While it may seem that way, at the core of this is the fact that peaceful protesters were intimidated out of expressing themselves by the state. That's a problem, rubber bullets or not. What's that, America 101? They're illegals and they're ruining America and they're leeches on the system and they're all criminals and bad people? Don't forget that they ARE finding plenty of jobs here from Americans who are perfectly willing to look the other way and exploit them. But you know what? Despite the fact that they don't make much here and do menial jobs most people won't do, it's STILL better than where they were...and that is why they're here. Please, at least TRY to pretend you have a heart and can empathize with people, even if they are scary brown people.

Thomas Anderson

Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:41:12 -0800

Don't worry "John Smith", they will take away net neutrality in due time as well.

callejero

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:17:36 -0800

People, people, people. Your anger is SO misplaced. I used to be a cop hater. Now, I realize that it is the rich who are to blame. The rich allow the police to use force because no rich guy ever protested on the streets along with the poor. He/she will never be rubber-bulleted. The rich understand one thing: If the poor get richer, I get poorer. I must allow the police to keep everyone in check. Only when the likes of MLK enlist the multitude to peacefully assemble do the rich give in--a little, anyway. BTW, has anyone noticed that Austria gave us Hitler and Swartzenegger. Oh, and they also started WWI.

Dan

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:35:47 -0800

It seems we all agree that America is the country we want to live in, and want to feel proud of. That is what we have in common. It seems both sides want to start the 60s all over again...civil disobedience, war protest, overreacting police, rubber bullets (who invented those anyway?) I think Gandhi would have suggested a sit in if that were ever to occur again. What would they have done if everyone just sat down (in the park, not in the street) and refused to give up their rights to free speech and free assembly? Just remember, all sides have a right to speak, sing, dance, disagree, offend, argue, belch and fart, but it is not always expedient. We're all in this together. God help us.

brian

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:04:32 -0800

I dare the people to rise up and take on the police. Rubber bullets won't be used. People will die. And I will laugh.

Fuck Illegals

Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:18:39 -0800

Fuck Illegals and fuck those fuckers who harbor and support illegals!

2feral4u

Thu, 31 May 2007 09:19:14 -0800

At the end of the day we are supposed to live in a democracy with free speech, we live in societys that have signed up to protect human rights. Freedom of expression etc. Are we not at war with nations on the priciples of deposing dictatorships and installing democracyto the people. At the end of the day we(british) are losing right after right in the name of national security and the war on terror?? You the sheep keep saying to us that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about, but thats just instatusionalisation speaking, we all need to speak up to preserve our democracy and rights regardless of race/beliefs, when you cant leave your homes for fear of being pursicuted, searched or having your every move scrutinised by officers of the law or by way of CCTV then you will begin to bleat like the sheep you are, but by then it will be too late and you find yourselves in the abatoire or should that be concentration camp. Forgive the spelling mistakes I cant be bothered to correct them just like you cant be bothered to fight for your rights.

Anon.

Tue, 29 May 2007 17:55:46 -0800

This is ridiculous. You don't know why the police showed up, maybe they didn't have a permit, maybe there was gang activity. And yet you refused to follow their orders and stick around trying to be heroes, you get all frothed up about your "inalienable rights" that are apparently being taken away when you break the law and refuse to follow police orders. This isn't "NPR-style," this is just one-sided propaganda trying to enrage people who get their panties in a knot over one piece of a much bigger picture. You protesters are not martyrs, you're irresponsible and immature for not following police orders and then complaining about the consequences.

Native American

Tue, 29 May 2007 10:17:36 -0800

All illegals should be rounded up and deported. They are sucking the life force (and money) from the country.

Homet

Tue, 29 May 2007 00:58:28 -0800

God I really am fed up with damn stupid Americans who keep saying that "we don't really live in a fascist state because of x, y, z." Living in a fascist state doesn't mean living in a perpetual war zone. There is a reason why people live in fascist states. It's pretty damn easy. Ready? If you follow the rules, you don't get fucked with. Look it doesn't matter if you use rubber bullets instead of real bullets, use the internet instead of actual wiretaps to spy, or use psychology instead of violence to coerce opinion, it is still fascism no matter how much you pretty it up. What you see in that video is very sophisticated and planned out form of fascism?

40yearOLDantiCOP

Mon, 28 May 2007 12:58:07 -0800

I disagree with amnesty for illegal immigrants. This show of force was more than that. It was a precursor of things to come in our country. While we have slept, worked, eaten and played, our country has been turned into a police state. Do a search for how many cops there are in this country... we have more police per capita than any country in the world. We also have more people in prison, per capita, than any country. The guy was right. Don't get complacent, cops, because there will come a day when people will fight back against you. COUNT ON IT.

Bob Brunner

Sun, 27 May 2007 02:45:48 -0800

Within this blog, the man wins again...For he knows the number 1 rule of warfare....DIVIDE...AND CONQUER. What happened was wrong period, all in this blog should be as one, no division. Our rights are being bought and sold on the open market right in front of our faces, and we do nothing, but launch harsh words at there volleys of injust laws which keeps us in check. What did the bible say, "ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO SUCCEED, IS FOR ONE GOOD MAN TO DO NOTHING".

Megz

Sat, 26 May 2007 22:36:37 -0800

Hmmm...all this talk of deporting the illegal immigrants... There was a comedian that came to my college once. I can't remember his name for the life of me, but here's a summery of his solution. Everyone is complaining that the illegal aliens are taking away jobs from hardworking Americans. So here's what we should do. Whatever jobs the aliens are working, we take them out of. Then we offer the now open job to an un-employed American citizen. If they don't take the job, we deport THEM and give the alien back their job and citizen status. If this was actually done, I think there'd be a lot more Americans in Mexico. And I really am sick of everyone griping about how if people want to come to this country they should do so legally, blah blah blah. I bet a large majority of those folks are white, and if you think back several hundred years, you'll see that whites were the ones that STOLE this country in the first place, and than settled their selves and claimed it as their our own. Everyone but the Native Americans are IMMIGRANTS, myself included... So unless you fall into the category of Native American, STFU!

Jeff

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:35:35 -0800

I'm sorry for anyone that got hurt, but this kind of show of force is never brought about for no reason. there was warning given, an adequate amount and the police SLOWLY pushed the crowd out of the park. for the people that got hurt they can thank the rest of the demonstraters that became aggressive and thought they should try to show their own disgust of the show of force. it was brought upon themselves, unfortuneatly.

Spoonman

Fri, 25 May 2007 05:21:24 -0800

Oh, well, I guess these folks should just go back to Mexico, huh? The police are known to be so much more lenient there anyway...

Lopez

Thu, 24 May 2007 10:42:26 -0800

It's incredibly sickening to see how authoritative police forces have become in the world. I cannot believe the audacity these fools have to instill so much fear within their own citizens, especially those whose lives are marked by a growing class fear, stigma, and feelings of lesser worth. No wonder our migrant populations are stereotyped as being criminals, thieves and drug dealers, these are the kinds of people that feel they have no authority on their side. Trust is a big deal folks, and when we cant even trust the system that is designed to protect us then what else is there to do? If the city of Los Angeles cared about democracy they would have better organized this event in cooperation with the demonstration leaders. It isn't very hard, I've seen it done before.

Lario

Thu, 24 May 2007 10:36:27 -0800

Comments heard? "This is oppression", "We're here for immigrant rights", "They make us work for low wages". Horse shit! People who enter this country illegally do NOT have rights. They are lawbreakers and should be treated as such.

Ken

Thu, 24 May 2007 10:13:04 -0800

What was the rally for? Illegal Immigrants? What do you want? You're here illegally. End of story. You are not entitled to the rights of legal citizens. End of story. Having said that. The Police handled this very, very poorly. Why did they have to disperse? Were there complaints? I don't get it.

Sven

Wed, 23 May 2007 06:49:47 -0800

To Dwindle and Maderai: Where do you see violent protesters in this and other videos and reports? There were bands playing and people singing and dancing. Little kids. Older people. What do you know about violence on this day except for a bottle thrown by someone in the crowd and the obvious violence by the police? And you're right, Tony, why are they all apologizing if they didn't horribly mishandle the situation?

tony

Tue, 22 May 2007 18:55:46 -0800

if the system works why was the top cop in charge that day demoted and then quit, and why did the chief of police apologize, why are there four investigations going on, and why did the mayor and the chief go to the park a few weeks later to reassure all who attended the rally and protest against the May Day Mellee that the same crap wouldnt go down?

Maderai

Tue, 22 May 2007 18:44:43 -0800

Hate to tell you this, Sven, but we aren't violent troublemakers trying to make the lives of honest people miserable because of your backwards political agenda. If you can't protest peacefully, you will be violently dispersed - get used to it.

Dwindle

Tue, 22 May 2007 18:42:20 -0800

Laws were broken, criminals were hurt, the system works. You leftist morons have to stop thinking the whole world has to stop dead and be a part of your misery.

Sven Bridstrup

Tue, 22 May 2007 17:07:28 -0800

This video is disgusting. We inch closer, day by day, to a police state. These cops weren't pushing illegals out of the park. They were pushing EVERYONE out of the park. And shooting at them. Why? Because someone threw a bottle? Oh really? So, why then don't cops clear Shea Stadium whenever some drunk throws a beer? It was obviously NOT because someone threw a bottle that the park was cleared. It was just a display of force and authority. The cops were scared, plain and simple. You fucking right wing nut jobs asked for this - and continue to ask for this - by voting for morons who think this is what America should look like. Read your history books. By the time they come to disperse YOUR party it will be too late.

Concerend

Tue, 22 May 2007 10:16:16 -0800

I have only one question for all of youo who live in that country: How did you let this happen?

Michael

Mon, 21 May 2007 19:28:46 -0800

If you don't want to get shot at for being at an illegal protest then go back to Mexico. You are here illegally and have no business in my country.

s2rt

Sun, 20 May 2007 13:12:15 -0800

Jose- The law of supply and demand is what brought these people here. They are the only ones willing to do the crappy, low-paying jobs that any self-respecting American won't do because he can collect welfare instead. The demand for cheap labor exceeds the supply of it. I have a feeling that even though you are not an immigrant you are descended from one. Perhaps you would not even be here if your great-to-the-Nth-grandfather (the immigrant) had been forced to return to his homeland. Luckily for you he wasn't deported. Instead he was able to get (and perhaps fought for) a better life for his descendants, which is all these folks want. As you may recall from the Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". Because they are unalienable, these rights are not granted by the government, but are natural rights that all people have irregardless of their country of origin. I suggest you actually read the US Constitution before commenting on it. The fourth amendment concerns illegal search and seizure, not using "...reasonable force to break up an illegal assembly...". The first Amendment is the one dealing with *freedom* of assembly, not *restriction* of freedom of assembly. It is a shame that so many Americans don't know what's in the Constitution or what the nation's founders were trying to do when they wrote it. Unfortunately, the Federal government has deliberately eliminated the teaching of civics in public schools so many people no longer understand what it means to be a good citizen. There were a thousand May Day celebrations that went sour? Wow, how come I didn't hear about that? Such outrageous hyperbole really doesn't help your case. Try to get at least a couple of facts right. May Day predates communism. Not every May Day celebration is about communism. To many people it symbolizes the renewed growth of spring. The Maypole is a phallic symbol representing fertility of the crops, not the destruction of a nuclear missle. It's kind of hard to form a good government when the democratically elected leader is overthrown by the CIA in order to get a leader more amiable to being a US puppet. United Fruit in Guatemala is the first example that springs to mind, but there are others like Ollie North selling cocaine to Americans to fund freedom fighters (a.k.a. terrorists). When our corporations go in and disrupt the economy of another country, I can understand why they would come here looking for a better way of life after we screw up their country. I find it incredibly ironic that after all your vitriol that you admonish others to "be civil, polite, honest". You have not demonstrated any of those characteristics. You need to follow your own advice so you don't sound like such a big hypocrite. I am an American. I respect your right to say whatever you wish even if I find it repugnant. As one of those dusty old men said, "It is precisely those acts of free speech that are most offensive that are most deserving of defense." This means that once you start silencing one form of free speech you have established the precedent to limit more (and more...and more...). You seem to want to put us on a slippery slope to a dictatorship wherein the government can silence any protest it doesn't agree with. That sounds more like the KGB in the old USSR than the good old US of A. I think you are the one that needs to relocate. Try out one of the extremely authoritarian countries like what you want us to turn into. I think you'll be begging to get your freedom back, but it will be too late. ----------------------------------------------- Your right to your opinion stops at my nose.

Jose

Sat, 19 May 2007 18:37:08 -0800

"The american economy is very much dependent on cheap imported labor. " Correct. Cut the supply of cheap labor and wages for the lowest paid employees begin to rise -- the law of supply and demand you know. Illegal immigration punishes the poorest people in the country. "Second a command in ENGLISH from a helicoptor was absurd." Imagine that, a command from an American helicopter in the heart of America is absurd. I know if I was protesting in downtown Mexico City that I would get a warning in English before the police did anything to me. Or France, or any other country. Oh, wait, illegal aliens are special people. "we are all immigrants" Um, no I'm not. Neither were my parents, or their parents, or their parents. "These people have just as much right to a good salary and a place to live and a NON-OPPRESSIVE government as you and me do." Then I suggest they return to their home country and create one. They do not have a right to my country and I don't have a right to theirs. "What gives the police the right to fire on crowds of unarmed protesters?" Um, that would be the 4th ammendment to the Constitution -- to use reasonable force to break up an illegal assembly that failed to obey lawful orders to disburse. "If people can't meet peacefully then how can they meet?" How about getting a permit before you take over city property --depriving citizens of the right to use the park as a park. You want to meet, go rent a convention center. You want to take over a park, go get a permit. "FUCK those who blame the victim and fuck the U.S." Agreed. Please show your displeasure by heading to such wonderful democratic countries as Mexico, Honduras, Guatamala, or anywhere south of the border, where masses of illegal foreigners march freely through the streets demanding rights. What a joke. Another communist May Day protest gets out of hand, just like a thousand other communist May Day protests gets out of hand, and people are shocked. Get the hell out of this country, go back to the corrupt shit-can you call a country and fix it up. Stop putting poor legal Americans out of work, stop breaking the law, stop lowering American wages, stop your illegal protests, stop leaving your families for the almighty dollar, stop trying to work the system and take advantage of the graciousness of the US, be civil, polite, honest, and get the hell out of here.

Myles

Sat, 19 May 2007 18:06:23 -0800

When did 'people' stop being 'people' and start being 'illegals' or 'citizens'? If I see an old lady fall down, I'm not gonna ask her if she is an 'illegal' before I help her up. The USA is a nation of immigrants. It always has been, it always will be. The american economy is very much dependent on cheap imported labor. This situation hasn't changed since the industrial revolution. I hear people saying that immigrants need to go home, they are stealing jobs, costing too much, et cetera. I guess they are 'stealing' backbreaking jobs that 'citizens' don't want to do, and especially not for $5 an hour. Of course, said 'citizen' benefits from cheap labor through lower prices for the goods and services he consumes. Ah, I could go on. It is pointless. You are never going to convince bigots that they are wrong.

Phil

Sat, 19 May 2007 07:04:44 -0800

First of alllegal or illegal they are afforded the same rights under the constitution. Lets get that on the plate. Second a command in ENGLISH from a helicoptor was absurd. Third it wasnt troublemakers LAPD was after it was old, young, press or anyone. I support anyone who comes to work....that nonsense about taking our jobs is pure bullshit.

The dude

Fri, 18 May 2007 22:31:10 -0800

Lets see now. They are illegal immigrants holding an illegal demonstration. They demonstrate for letting criminals stay in America and ultimately making US as corrupted as south America. No thanks, they should have arrested the whole bunch and deported them back to Mexico. US is the only country where I have seen criminals protesting that they should have more rights. Ridiculous.

jose saramago

Fri, 18 May 2007 12:44:26 -0800

America needs to wake up. we are all immigrants. What you do unto others will be done to you, but worse. People in america, the majorities need to respect the human rights of others and stop the scapegoating of decent hard working human beings. STop bullying minorities and blaming them for the countries problems, Dig deep into your so called Christian values, and find your own humaninity. Peace on Earth starts with Peace within yourself, if you are at peace you won't have the need to trample on others. Take responsibilities for what this country does in your name. Start with yourself. Love yourself, and let that love spread. Do not be tainted by the propaganda that spreads fear and divisiveness. We are all migrants in this good earth, borders are irrelevant, especially for those who sacrifice for a decent life.Let Be. Peace and love to Everyone.

Thomas

Fri, 18 May 2007 12:43:16 -0800

To all you people saying that these illegals shouldn't be here, just shut up. You know why? Because these people came here because this is one of the greatest countries in the world, maybe not the government, but at least you can get decent pay and live in an actual house. Some came because they wanted to get money to send back to their families, but you bastards want to send them back so they can just live in small little houses without running water and electricity? Have you no hearts? Some of them came because their government wasn't doing anything about this, and since America is (supposedly) such a great country, they thought our government wouldn't do this. But apparently, our government FUCKING SHOOTS ANYONE THAT DEFIES THEM! On that subject, apparently all of you don't know that these PEOPLE are still PEOPLE! Honestly, you don't think they should have the same rights we do? Also, not all these people are Mexicans. If you had payed attention, there were all kinds of flags, even an American one. Also, where are you're ancestors come from? Is all of you're family line from America? Is you're last name's origin America? These people have just as much right to a good salary and a place to live and a NON-OPPRESSIVE government as you and me do. I think I've made my point.

RunningSquirrelFox

Tue, 15 May 2007 09:40:22 -0800

I'm a Native American, so you're all illegal immigrants to me. If we kick the Mexicans out, you can all go the fuck home then. Please take your rape, disease, poverty, and your fascist corporate overlords with you. Thanks.

Ryan

Mon, 14 May 2007 20:44:05 -0800

It does not matter what laws are like in other countries. The idea of America is that we will allow nonviolent protest, and our police will protect that freedom within our borders. America has a difficult position in the way of international affairs. We are the one remaining super power, and we have the burden of setting an example for other nations. America has always been an the crest of the wave of modern culture, and I do not wear a military uniform because "at least we're nicer to our 'illegals' than Mexico." Let us not forget that laws are forged by men. Men make the laws and govern the appropriate actions of citizens, not the other way around. Men stand on their laws before their principles only when their code of ethics is in dire need of revision. Perhaps the people crossing a border to seek a better lifestyle shouldn't be called 'illegals' anymore. Maybe it's time to find a new classification like 'non-citizen' or 'citizen in processing' I don't really care what you call it. BUT... the point stands. A man who crosses a border in search of a better life has done no wrong by me or unto anyone as I see it.

mike

Sun, 13 May 2007 16:17:42 -0800

welcome to the new americhina

Suze

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:00:03 -0800

It has nothing to do with illegal or legal - I think it was summed up pretty well by a cop rushing and violently batonning a protester who was both holding an American flag (which he had to duck behind to try to avoid blows) and trying to help up another man who had been pushed to the ground for no apparent reason and was being beaten. LAPD are thugs.

holly brewer

Thu, 10 May 2007 15:45:07 -0800

Thank you so much for posting this. I love in Boston and did not see this firsthand but I can use this sight and sound to arm myself with MORE knowledge of this very real threat to ALL of our rights. I will pass this along to everyone I know. Again thank YOU for posting this.

erik

Thu, 10 May 2007 08:37:29 -0800

"For Christ Sakes when is okay to Break laws?" I hope that next time your speeding, or jaywalking your met with a barrage of rubber bullets. And in regards to the incoherent, racist, rambling comments before mine, if you can’t compose a proper sentence your thoughts about immigration control and the first amendment are completely discredited. It makes me sick to think that those of you supporting the police attacking a crowd of unarmed people are my fellow Americans.

Nancy

Mon, 07 May 2007 17:00:25 -0800

Who cares if the people being shot at were illegal immigrants or legal citizens? It shouldn't be a question of who is legally there; it's an issue on human rights. What gives the police the right to fire on crowds of unarmed protesters? The fact is the LAPD fired on a crowd containing children and unarmed, peaceful protesters. I agree that the individuals throwing bottles should have been arrested; but there's no reason to punish the masses for the crimes of a few. The LAPD went too far; they are there to maintain laws and security for the city - not create chaos and mayhem on the streets. The mass majority were FLEEING from the police - there was absolutely no excuse for the tactics shown by the LAPD.

sarab

Mon, 07 May 2007 12:37:40 -0800

sarabsingh.org is my website, interesting video. i would love to hear a rebuttal video from the cops or whoever was in charge of the cops. the pictures spoke 1 million words, but i still would like to hear the other side's justification.

Karen

Mon, 07 May 2007 07:25:32 -0800

Thanks for recording this. I would say the same to major media groups, but they didn't get to cover it half as well (surprise? How long did it take the mayor to react). The video should be grabbable on Utube so people can share it. What people seem to be getting sidetracked on is whether the people where there leaglly or illegally. What if it was a peaceful demonstartion about something they cared about- what if it was about environmental polution or gay rights? What would the verdict be then? If people can't meet peacefully then how can they meet? If people can't meet, how can they share ideas and become informed? These ideas, at base, are the roots of true democracy. Tienanmen square was also peaceful. Remember when a student refused to leave the road? Was it then acceptable for the government to use force?

Kyle

Sun, 06 May 2007 19:32:07 -0800

The tactics they are using are for dealing with riots, not taking control over the good people of a city. This is unacceptable and police department should have some of they're riot control funding cut to keep they from being so tempted to use it on the innocent.

Ryan

Sun, 06 May 2007 06:09:09 -0800

@America I read down the comments until I got to yours. I am a liberal. I don't want illegal immigrants in the US. I think they deserve the right to be here, but they should do it legally, and pay to be here, just like everyone else. That said, arrest those who attacked the police. Charge them. But rout an entire PEACEFUL rally? Come on. Not only that, but I heard them say leave MacArthur Park, correct? So why did the police keep pushing the crowd down the streets? The LAPD seems to have a history of violent opression, and I understand that has got to be a hard job, but when a reporter for FOX News quotes an officer as saying "Double time, it's tussle time." well, that proves there's a problem greater than the stress of policing a city like LA. Every time something like this happens, more and more people get angry at the government and the police. No one wins. So, stop oppressing the majority (the protestors) for the mistakes of the minority (those who fought the police). The world doesn't need more fighting.

Derek

Sat, 05 May 2007 23:18:43 -0800

Why do so many people dart around the issue of the way this demonstration was dispersed by saying "but it's about illegals? follow the laws" ? There was nothing illegal about this demonstration, the city/cops/whoever just decided they didn't like it. Is it going to take this happening at an anti-abortion or gun rights protest before the other half of this country realizes it is an attack on our constitutional right of assembly? Stand by now while the topics you don't like are crushed if you like, but don't whine when (not if) it is your turn to be victim of the same tactics. As someone said before me, I don't necessarily agree with the content of the demonstration, but I wholeheartedly agree with their right to have it. PS demonstrators, it would help your cause quite a bit if you would use big US flags as opposed to the flags of the countries you left for this one. Oh and btw Lilly - stop living in fear. You will never know what is in the heart of your neighbor, and it is best to get used to the idea, instead of insisting the government scan everyone around you in some lame attempt to create a sense of security.

Lilly

Sat, 05 May 2007 16:19:45 -0800

For Christ Sakes when is okay to Break laws? If you come into this country illegally you have broken the law. I suppose you would like total Anarchy? If so then go to Darfur. If anyone wants to come into this country then they need to do so legally. Tell me Game Jew would you be so gung-ho if you had them living with you for say 6 months without background checks? How in the world do you know if they are not Pedophile or a Sociopath? No this country is far from perfect, but the laws that have been made are there for the most part to protect us. Please THINK be for you act and if you still think it's okay for people to knowingly break the laws then please don't call the police next time you are robbed or beaten, because God knows they are PART of the problem RIGHT?

Fag

Sat, 05 May 2007 15:41:42 -0800

That was complete bullshit. The cops are to tolerant, after the 5th time the told them to leave the should have started pummeling the with water house. All those waste of space people should be shot and killed,if they don't wanna die don't go you fucking retarded hippie bullshitters.

Greenie

Sat, 05 May 2007 03:28:26 -0800

I am second generation, family is originally from N. Ireland. Immigrants are human beings, legal or not, and have rights - it's in the declaration of independance and the constitution - remember them? It astounds me how hypocritical some can be about their own family history - how do you know that your kin came here legally? Not to mention that 2-3 generations ago immigration was a much easier process. Even if you disagree with the rally....this was wrong. Plastic or rubber bullets are "non lethal rounds" made of compressed rubber that one could liken to a hockey puck, and when fired can leave a nasty welt, break bones and if fired at the head, cause blindness or death due to trauma. For this reason cops/security forces are trained to aim at the mid section of an adult. Of course, this is also about the height of a childs head, and the cops were firing excessively (240 rounds) into a fleeing crowd which contained many small children. Several children died this way in Northern Ireland under similar mindless firing. But never as excessive as 240 rounds. They are lucky they didn't kill someone. Not to mention that press who were prominantly wearing their required ID and who had every LEGAL right to be there were assaulted and kept from being able to do their jobs (restriction of the media is a fascist mo, by the way)The female reporter that they roughed up on camera from fox is actually the wife of a retired LAPD officer as well. The actions of the LAPD are an embarrassment to LA and to the US. There are rules - if the cops don't follow them....

D-Ray

Fri, 04 May 2007 23:45:07 -0800

My family came here, as immigrants from Italy, and faced discrimination as they got SHIT ON by this country. I recognize that. How can you assholes talk about immigrants in such a malicious way, knowing that your existence in this country is based on immigration? Wake the fuck up.

Trypto

Fri, 04 May 2007 19:18:18 -0800

That was wild. The funniest parts were GameJew deciding to move closer after the police told people to leave and then not being able to comprehend why "they keep firing". That and the part where he revels in the fact that people are getting more belligerent because they don't think the cops will fire at them this far into the neighborhood. Then... BANG! Run! Good stuff. I hope they figure all this out and the people that acted inappropriately, police or civilian, get a good butt whippin'.

jimh

Fri, 04 May 2007 18:48:07 -0800

There's an awful lot of "serves 'em right" sentiment here that I find shocking, because I think that it misses the point. What makes any of you think that the police reaction has anything to do with immigrant's rights? No one was asking for green cards before firing or issuing beat downs. They would have done the same to your white ass, and don't you forget it. The police are removing your right to assemble in public. Period. What you have is an armed, organized, uniformed, tactical force exerting itself brutally against an unarmed assembly and members of the press. I agree that if someone throws a bottle, that person should be dealt with swiftly and arrested. But there is no excuse for the kind of action that the LAPD has taken here. Look back to Kent State for crying out loud, have we all forgotten the past so quickly? Don't give me any of that "It's a lot worse in other countries" and "rubber bullets and batons aren't that bad", bullshit either. We don't play that lowest common denominator card here in the U.S.A., we're SUPPOSED to have higher standards. Go ahead though, give them an inch. They'll be back for the rest of the mile. But before you defend the excessive use of force on a crowd, and the police's right to chase people for blocks in an armed cordon, think about your fucking fourth of July block party. Think about your free concert in the park, or whatever. It could happen to you.

Marc

Fri, 04 May 2007 18:44:39 -0800

Frank, The police did not break this up because it was disrupting traffic. They were telling everyone to LEAVE THE PARK, which essentially means that they are forced to enter the streets and create a chaotic situation which certainly escalated when these people step onto the streets and see lines of riot police trying to corral them in. Our families were all immigrants at some point (some illegal, no doubt), and everyone knows that becoming legal in this country used to be a LOT easier than it is now. If i'm not mistaken, there is an extraordinary percentage of legal Americans who can't pass the citizenship test.

Saint_boy

Fri, 04 May 2007 15:31:15 -0800

No human being deserves this type of differential treatment. The cops abused their authority and overstepped many boundaries. I don't care if you claim to be an American, but as long as you are not Native American, you are an immigrant. White America loves to keep people vulnerable and expoloitable and blame immigrants for taking the jobs of citizens. Bullshit, I don't see White people fighting for jobs that require bending your backs to keep middle and upper class people healthy. You see this racialized brutality will only get worse. FUCK THE POLICE!!! FUCK those who blame the victim and fuck the U.S.

The Artist

Fri, 04 May 2007 14:45:23 -0800

It is not illegal to assemble in a public place, no matter what the size or cause. The police were wrong, hands down, to use any force whatsoever on the assembled. There has been no tape, in the mass media or otherwise, of any sort of violence during the protest that warrents firing on unarmed families and then herding people through the streets while continuing to fire on and arrest them.

Angel G.

Fri, 04 May 2007 11:46:46 -0800

Carbo- that's just stupid. Most of the people that are talking about "the civil disobedience thing" which is about your and my first amendment right, is being made by LEGAL citizens. You are taking your opinion about the legality of illegal immigration to detract from the illegality of the LAPD violating our constitutional rights. As has been said above, there's no way the LAPD could have known if they were using their batons or rubber bullets on citizens or illegals...and that fact doesn't, and shouldn't matter. Apparently to xenophobic people such as yourself, it should matter.

carbo

Fri, 04 May 2007 10:55:08 -0800

If you want sympathy from mainstream americans(LEGAL ones!) perhaps you should get off the civil disobedience thing, and respect the country you are in ILLEGALLY!

Frank

Fri, 04 May 2007 10:47:21 -0800

I was there observing. The police broke it up after the fact that the protestors were blocking the flow of traffic, which is illegal. Police repeatly asked the protestors to get office the streets. The protestors answered by turning bottles and cans. Know both sides of the story. They protest was indeed legal, but they breached the law. Again when you ask for something that is not yours is stupid. The claim that the land was stolen is true. But history has always been about one group of people taking something that is not theirs to begin with. The Babylonians were defeated by the Persians, the Persians bye grecians. So on and so on. Whites took the land from people here, thats the way the world goes.

zebsmith.blogspot.com

Fri, 04 May 2007 10:12:23 -0800

What was the percentage of citizens/illegals here? Say what you want, but illegal immigrants are not citizens of this country. What they should have done is arrested them all and deported anyone who couldn't prove citizenship. I'm sick of paying taxes for people who use our hospitals like they're a free clinic. I'm sick of seeing jobs lost to criminals who can't obey our laws. You want to waive a Mexican flag and speak Spanish? Stay home. This is America, we only have one flag. This is the land of the free so long as you respect our laws. Disrespect them by illegally crossing our borders and you lose the privileges that law abiding citizens have earned. There are thousands of people waiting in line to enter this country legally. Every time some scumbag sneaks across the border it's a slap in the face to those who are trying to come here the right way. A related story here. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Found via this blog.

hegel

Fri, 04 May 2007 10:10:08 -0800

observations: i find it odd that many first and second generation immigrants tend to be the most conservative when it comes to immigration. i find it even more strange that the concept of the natural citizen has been held to be legitimate at all when this land that is the usa was stolen from indigenous americans by european immigrants. how can there be a defense of the distinction between illegal and legal immigrants when the very foundation of the government that makes that distinction was lawless? how can one defend this contradiction without becoming a cultural amnesiac, that is, without forgetting the foundational history of this nation and the constitutive events that have enabled our historical present? how can one defend the rights of the citizen when what is declared by the declaration of independence are the rights of "man"--or human rights, which do not originate from the power of the u.s. or any nation-state's constitution? the ironic thing, frank, is that this was a protest with a permit! they had city approval. this wasn't a bust on "illegal" immigrants, this was an action against a peaceful assembly which was "permitted" by the city. the police action was thus not only the city's betrayal of the protestors, but it was also in violation of the constitutional right to assembly, which is guaranteed under the first amendment to the constitution. the cops were not just "doing their job", instead they in violation of constitutional right. and further, it was impossible for any one of those cops to know whether they were shooting at illegal immigrants or at citizens. and in any case, the rights of the citizen can only be founded on the rights of the human. yes, god bless this country and its violent and ignorant police forces. and god bless those who defend this violence and ignorance.

Frank

Fri, 04 May 2007 08:36:12 -0800

Oppression? Militarized State? hahahah. Stop breaking the Law! Why don't u Come into this Country legally, My parents did. Go to Mexico illegally and ask for rights and see how the Mexican Goverment treats illegals! If you are here illegal, you are not citizen and should not be entitled to the rights of a Citizen! You say this country is fucked up?! Trying doing what you were doing in China, Iran, Venezula, any other country. Cops are just doing there job. yoU company about rub bullets? "Oh it hurts!" If you want rights BECOME A CITIZEN. You complain about shitty wages? Blame it on your lack of education and sorry country you were born in. Truth is you work low paying jobs because ecomonics show us that employers seek to pay the lowest amount of money possible to there workers. You want to improve your situation? Complain back home, that your governments can improve the standards of living and education your country men receive. Stop Talk shit about the United States. God bless this Country. -Mexican.

onejewsayingfuckyou

Thu, 03 May 2007 23:46:30 -0800

lets see you come to america work in are shops because the pay sucks down there where i live these shops pay good so whats up with that whats really fucked up is your edit bullshit to make the other side look bad your a idiot i lived with the real mexicans that put 15 to 20 in a apartment and worked and sent money home you just made them people like asses you stupid college kid fuck you and join the real world

malingering

Thu, 03 May 2007 23:15:28 -0800

GameJew is illegal? I love the comments on his blog, "you covered a biased view wah wah wah wah." For some reason I thought he was covering what he saw, not creating an objective bipartisan documentary to be used by history books throughout the country as the sole view of this event. Man, blogging is rougher than I thought.

Daniel

Thu, 03 May 2007 22:23:09 -0800

i dont know anything about what happened at macarthur park, but why would anyone think that illegals should have rights, and then have the audacity to protest about it. the keyword here is "ILLEGAL".

Alec

Thu, 03 May 2007 21:00:56 -0800

This gave me chills. I am sending this to everyone I know, just to spread the word. This is incredible footage. Thank you for recording this.

schock

Thu, 03 May 2007 18:31:40 -0800

I was there to support the event and to play music with my band fósforo (www.fosforo.net). We were literally on the soundstage playing when the police attacked without clear warning. I happened to have a cam and hid behind a speaker stack to record everything. For you non-spanish speakers, the music is a cover of Bob Marley's 'War,' itself an interpretation of a speech by Haile Selassie I. The band is my band Fósforo, the footage is a mix of stuff some shot by me, some shot by Larry Gross (!), and some pulled from la.indymedia.org and from YouTube at 2am. enjoy the (riot) porn. download at 43.5 megs la.indymedia.org/uploads/2007/05/fosforo_mayday_rough_cops.mp4

Ted

Thu, 03 May 2007 15:23:11 -0800

Doug, it's so so obvious you weren't there. SO WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING LIKE YOU ARE AN EXPERT?!

Doug

Thu, 03 May 2007 14:46:00 -0800

Obey simple laws and this wouldn't happen. ANyone can get a demonstration permit from LA, but they didn't. The police peacefully told everyone to leave the park (the helicopter) and when people approached police (and actually attacked in some cases not shown on the video) the police enforced the law and disbanded a crowd that did not want to leave.

ljl

Thu, 03 May 2007 14:03:47 -0800

I live across the street from the park. I went to the march/ rally thingy last year with my friend and my little dog. We took lots of fun pictures including one with a giant walking sandwich. It was surprisingly peacefully and family oriented. There was a police presence ringing the park but I didn’t see any scuffles. How can this years march with 1/3 the marchers go so violently wrong? Note to cops- pushing over people with the means to both document and publish your behavior is a bad idea.

tony

Thu, 03 May 2007 13:48:00 -0800

well then legalAmerican, the next time youre at a rally and a motorcycle cop runs into a group of Azteca dancers, which prompts a bottle being thrown at the cop, which somehow suddenly prompts helicopters and hundreds of cops jabbing old women and female journalists around while shooting rubber bullets at all sorts of people (illegal and legal), then you might not want to call it fascist, but you might call it fucked up which is what that was.

James Philip

Thu, 03 May 2007 13:47:17 -0800

Thanks to GameJew for your compelling work. The reaction by the LAPD was brutal. So Chief Bratton has turned this incident over to the FBI for an "investigation." How are we to trust the feds, the corrupt lying feds?

legalAmerican

Thu, 03 May 2007 13:38:22 -0800

A real facist state would have grabbed you up while you were assembling. A facist state would not have allowed 12 to 20 million illegals into their country in the first place. A facist state wouldn't turn a blind eye to a bunch of idiots demanding rights be bestowed up on a bunch of illegal aliens, not this year or last. A state like say..oh i dunno, Mexico? Venezuala? Cuba? As shown and actaully reported in other news, throwing rocks etc at the facist pigs never works out well. (imagine that) What part of, "you must leave and dispurse" don't you understand...maybe you're pissed because american cops we giving you the command in English instead of spanish? Here's one for you, why don't the illegals you're marching for go home and straighten out their own government? Exactly!! Facist, sheesh what a bunch of morons. ICE should be expanded and all illegals deported, thats a job most americans would take!!!

Joshua Rios

Thu, 03 May 2007 13:28:04 -0800

The Time is NOW to takerFreedoms Back and Stand for a Free Land, Not just The USA but our World. We must Stand Firm and Unite. As one people!!!! Cops are people too, Shameonthe cops, hurting the women and children. Would you do that to your own, Curse you all. When yougo home off duty you are a part of this too. Unite everyone UNITE, We should not be afraid of the Government the Government shuould be afraid of their people. What the F U C K !!! COMIS!!! BACK OFF this will all end soon you can only push so much until we cant take it any more all colors all genders all humans UNITE for a FREE WORLD PEACE TO ALL!!!

Marc

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:46:39 -0800

Does anyone actually know why LAPD choppers hovering above the park decided it was high time to evict everybody? Who made this decision? The whole incident seemed to be a completely unnecessary show of combative behavior by LAPD. If someone is down on the ground injured or scared out of their minds, the cops should be helping them up and moving them along rather than beating defenseless people with batons. For obvious reasons, I'm not sure these are questions that will be properly answered by this 'internal investigation.' And, as an aspiring journalist, the true eyes and protectors of this supposed 'police state,' the fear of watching cops beat cameramen and TV reporters was truly sickening and shows firsthand the eroding respect for journalists in this country. All in all, this video shows how distorted the idea of "protecting and serving" has become among America's law enforcement.

America 101

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:36:48 -0800

What is funny, is all you liberals want to stand up for these illegals, that are knowingly breaking our laws, stealing our identities, and costing all US taxpayers millions of dollars. You and the illegals are the righteous ones? Please give me a break! Why don't you and all your Mexican friends go back to Mexico and see how they treat illegals over there and report back. Try asking Guatemalans how they are treated crossing Mexico's southern border and you will change your tune very fast.

Pants

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:13:25 -0800

I would understand the outrage if they were firing real bullets. If these people weren't in this 'fascist' ( overused and improperly used cliche term ) state, but in another country, there's a really good chance those would have been real bullets, count your blessings...you have it better than you think, there are people in this world with real problems.

tony

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:12:51 -0800

even if its true that a bottle was thrown at a group of cops all in riot gear lined up menacingly along Alvarado (protecting what, the 99 Cent store, from what, people who want to buy things there?) there was no reason to push the entire rally through all of MacArthur Park and then through the streets west of the Park for blocks and blocks. and some say that the bottle wasnt thrown until a motorcycle cop ran into a bunch of Azteca dancers on Alvarado.

White boy

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:04:01 -0800

If you like TJ today Then you will love LA tomorrow.

steve

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:01:54 -0800

While I don't agree with the protestors on this particular topic, I do support their right to peacably assemble. What happened to organized protesting? Sometimes you have to stand your ground instead of running. It makes me sad that people weren't willing to stand up for their beliefs.

Trent

Thu, 03 May 2007 12:01:46 -0800

The only good cop is a dead cop.

Jay Dee

Thu, 03 May 2007 11:59:52 -0800

Peaceful? Weren't some cops injured? There are two sides to every coin.

Alex

Thu, 03 May 2007 08:58:17 -0800

Fascists!

Marshall

Thu, 03 May 2007 07:30:51 -0800

Gamejew has the best schtick, rocking those Mario overalls. Pretty good amateur coverage.

John Smith

Wed, 02 May 2007 21:13:19 -0800

Freedom has become an illusion. Its watch watch your TV, movies, and play your games. Work your 9-5 but if you do any complaining the man will fuck you up. We may have freedom online still, but our civil rights are eroding faster than you can say "fascism"!