Looks like Carlos is joke stealing again.
A few weeks ago on LAist we put up a post about comedian and host Joe Rogan calling Carlos Mencia out in the middle of a set at the Comedy Store for stealing from numerous comedians, as well as letting it be known that Mencia is not actually Mexican as most of his material claims, but is rather half Honduran, half German and is really named Ned Holness.
Now it looks like Mencia did it again, to one of the greats, Bill Cosby...from 1983 nonetheless.
Joe Rogan is still banned from the comedy store as Ned Holness performs there on a regular basis.
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The most amazing thing about Mencia is he puts one in a position where one is rooting for Joe Rogan. Rogan is a hack but compared to Mencia, he's Bill Hicks. A good rule of thumb, if a comic is a regular at the Comedy Store, he's a hack.
I am no fan of "Carlos," but the athlete-kid thanking mom and not dad is a very old American joke. Cosby's telling of the joke is much different (and much better) than the other dude's joke. I am pretty sure this is not a serious incident. ARE YOU?
stealing jokes is nothing. remember when tom petty sued RHCP for "ripping off" is 3-chord song called "Mary Jane"?
keep laughin'
Who's Joe Rogan?
Ya know, as a Mexican-American myself, I'd like to ask the author of this post to explain why it matters that Mencia is Hondurian and not Mexican. He's made light of the fact several times on national TV, and it's completely true. To most white people, I'm Mexican when I'm in the Southwest, Cuban when I'm in Florida, and Puerto Rican in New York. Shoot, I was even in Jersey once and got mistaken for Italian.
I find it ironic that there are so many lily-white crackers out there calling Mencia out for "not being Mexican enough."
i cant speak for the author of this post, Joel, but as an African-American, if someone pretended to be black and proceeded to tell a string of black jokes, thered be trouble.
if you're saying that the Mexican-American community is more forgiving than that, then good for you. but there would be an ass-kicking where i come from if Mencia decided to all of a sudden claim he was black and started dropping n bombs.
It's not about being forgiving. It's about the fact that people in this country are lumped into just 5 racial categories based on skin color. And it's not up to you how you get assigned. I know a guy whose parents were both born in Mexico, but his skin color is dark enough that most people call him Black. I know a guy who immigrated to the US from India, but he looks Chinese so everyone calls him that. You gotta remember that brown is between white and black in terms of skin color, so it's a huge racial category. It's just easier for everyone to go by the dominant racial category in their area, and in California all brown people are Mexicans.
your all niggers to me:)
ps my IP is 69.149.51.42
Joel,
I don't know which California you're talking about - or of what era California you're talking about but it sure as shit aint California 2007. Here it is soooo PC that assuming outloud that someone is Mexican who simply isnt black or white is tantamount to asking a fat woman how soon her baby is due.
Ned, aka Carlos, is simply a lazy comedian who found no material in being half Honduran and half German, so instead started calling himself Mexican. The same way he started calling the jokes he stole his.
Again, I don't know a Honduran or Chilean or Argentinian who would be cool with me calling them Mexican once they told me that they weren't. All it would have taken for Ned to set the record straight was to correct people when they called him Mexican. But he didn't want the record set, he wanted to continue the lie, because the nature of thieves is deeply rooted in falsity.
It's amazing that comedy venues allow him to continue to "work".
Tony, are you white? I'm Mexican-American, and unless I knew you, I wouldn't be happy with you calling me Mexican either. It's just like with the N word. We call each other Mexicans, wetbacks, beaners, etc... all the time, but if you're not Mexican you better be careful about it. So I don't see where the whole "he's not 100% Mexican!!!" argument is supposed to be going. If you're white, then what the hell do you care if he's 50% Mexican and 50% Hondurian? If you're Mexican and you're offended by this, then you need to get a life and learn your history. Being Mexican is all about being mixed race. All Mexicans are part something else--we have people who are part Indian, part Spanish (that's obvious), part German (Germans SWARMED into Latin America in the period 1870-1940. It was like the old west in the US, but for Germany), part Japanese (same deal...Japanese immigrants came to Latin America because there was opportunity there), part Irish (Irish Catholics in the US Army during the Mexican War decided to stay in Mexico rather than fight for a Protestant American nation that hated them). Anyone who claims to be 100% Mexican is an ignorant fool.