LAist: Good Grove/Bad Grove

aka

Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:40:53 -0800

Damn, jjj, you beat me too it. What next, shall we blame the tipping customers when waiters are stabbed? A $5 parking fee is nothing compared to your life.

jjj

Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:28:12 -0800

Funny, I don't think Mr. Caruso plunged the knife into that poor waiter. I don't see anyone blaming our miserable criminal justice system or our understaffed LAPD for the crime. It's a $5 fee people. Pay it and be safe. Or go buy one cup of overpriced coffee.

Donna B

Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:25:53 -0800

The interesting thing about the first waiter stabbed is that it was not a bad area at all! I just looked it up on the map, and it's right below Beverly, across from the CBS center. I park near there every time I go to the mall (3 times a year?) because I'm a little claustrophobic, and, oh, hell, yes, cheap. Anyway, I would NOT call that a bad area, especially 10 pm on a Sunday evening, quiet time in the big city. Someone has put this on the silence radar. Also, I agree with what the mom said, in theory, but the rhythm of her English reminded me a lot of the person who writes Manolo's Shoe Blog....who "is," of course, Italian. Hmm.

Josh Strike

Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:06:21 -0800

As a one-time Grove serf, I can attest that what's written here is true, although some of the better employers there do opt to buy parking passes for their employees, which allow access to the roof of the lot during the week and covered entry to the CBS lot on weekends. It's worth noting, though, that business owners there don't have an easy time of it, either. I worked at a kiosk which ultimately failed. The insanely high rent and enormous pressures put on the lessees to conform to often absurd requirements (including forced extended hours of operation during the holiday season) put all but the most massive of the major outlets there in constant jeopardy. Great money-laundering scheme for ownership...rather raw deal for everyone under them. But then, that pretty much describes our whole society, doesn't it?

JH

Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:47:20 -0800

I love the fact that GETTING STABBED TO DEATH hasn't effected Caruso in trying to insure safety to his employees unless they give him his tribute money. They aren't serfs.