http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php All comments for SUV'ing The Landscape en-us 2008 lindsayrebecca Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:00:00 -0800 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss lindsay@laist.com lindsay@laist.com 60 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146674 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146674 Comments Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:43:19 -0800 <p>Have you seen this before? It's a number guessing game: http://www.amblesideprimary.com/ambleweb/mentalmaths/guessthenumber.html. I guessed 24238, and it got it right! Pretty neat.</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146372 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146372 Comments Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:25:10 -0800 <p>This is cool, you have to try it. I guessed 53335, and this game guessed it! 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See it here - http://www.funbrain.com/guess/</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146368 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-146368 Comments Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:22:41 -0800 <p>This is cool, you have to try it. I guessed 53335, and this game guessed it! See it here - http://www.funbrain.com/guess/</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144166 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144166 Comments Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:30:17 -0800 <p>I find the tone of the 'pro' SUV comments to be rather harsh. SUVs are for the most part more dangerous and destructive then smaller new cars. </p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144163 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144163 Comments Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:30:55 -0800 <p>Aren't you just fucking SPECIAL, Alkon.</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144161 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144161 Comments Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:25:50 -0800 <p>Sure, if you're a contractor carrying steel girders to the office every day, drive a large vehicle. But you have kids? Boo hoo. Drive a Jetta station wagon, you environment hogging vulgarian. You have no right to pollute the air of the rest of us and endanger everybody else on the road. Perhaps you haven't been reading the news lately, but there's a war on in Iraq. Oh, are we really there for "humanitarian" reasons, not the oil? Strange how we aren't in Sudan, where there's a much more dire need for humanitarian intervention. I hope your SUV is one of the ones I put my new anti-SUV campaign card on -- since you drive it "because you like it." Oh, we're so thrilled you're happy about what you drive. Just a little something to think about (per my cards, you selfish creep): "How many dead Marines did it take to gas up your SUV? Stylish, aren't you!" PS I drive a 66mpg Honda Insight, the highest mileage car on the road, save biodiesel, and I'm not technically savvy enough to retrofit myself one of those. </p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144160 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144160 Comments Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:01:54 -0800 <p>At least California also has the largest number of MINI owners in the U.S. (incl. yours truly)...trying to save the world, one tiny car at a time.</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144159 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144159 Comments Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:48:15 -0800 <p>"My calculations suggest..." Frankly Dr. Wright is full of crap and is only making "suggestions" rather than factual statements. And Rabbi Saperstein is a fool if he is comparing the alleged dangers of SUVs to the proven dangers of cigarette smoking and you are a bigger fool to quote him. The previous poster asked for facts. You've provided "suggestions" and suppositions. Game over. </p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144156 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144156 Comments Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:08:11 -0800 <p>Driver -- just so you know: "Driving an SUV has a much greater impact on the environment than driving other passenger cars. In large part, this is due to double standards set by law and government regulations. For example, current federal regulations allow SUVs to have far worse fuel economy than other vehicles. The federal corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards set the fuel economy goals for new passenger cars at 27.5 miles per gallon (mpg). But under the law, SUVs are not considered cars - they are characterized as light trucks. Light trucks only have to achieve 20.7 mpg. It should be noted that this is an average for all light trucks, which is why it is possible to have SUVs on the road that only achieve 12 mpg. In fact, some SUV, like the massive Ford Excursion, are so large that they no longer qualify as "light trucks," and are not subject to any kind of fuel economy standards." And if that wasn't bad enough: A working paper released this week by the National Bureau of Economic Research highlights a different but related issue. Economist Michelle White of University of California at San Diego calculated the effect of SUVs and light trucks on traffic safety. Many people purchase SUVs to make their families safer, but the cost is extremely high, Dr. White said in an interview. "My calculations suggested that for every accident involving a fatality that you avoided by buying a bigger vehicle, you cause 2 1/2 accidents involving fatalities for vehicles that you hit. To those skeptical about what can be achieved by the campaign, coalition members have ready answers. "Millions of people were buying cigarettes, just as millions are buying SUVs," Rabbi Saperstein points out. "After education, people understood about the health problems - they will respond in this instance, too."</p> http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144155 http://laist.com/2004/12/03/suving_the_landscape.php#comment-144155 Comments Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:56:28 -0800 <p>As someone who has owned both cars and SUVs, I am always surprised by the idiocy vented by those who feel that SUV drivers are somehow evil, hateful people with size issues who want nothing more than to mow over children and the elderly and damage the environment. The more simple answers of: I have pets, I have children, I am remodeling my house, I like them, etc. just don't work for those people who only assume the worst things about those of us who don't want to drive regular cars. Prove to me that driving an SUV is more environmentally damaging that the pollutants China (and Mt. St. Helens) spew out on a daily basis. Don't bother, because you can't. Nope, it's just easier for you to assign faults and make assinine judgements against people who don't like what you like. </p>